Germany/Portugal - Christian Brueckner, 27 @ time of 1st crime (2004), charged with sexual assault crimes, Praia de Rocha, Portugal. #4

[Mex]

We've had a profiler in court confirming it, any nonsense proclaiming DMs attack was filmed should end.

I know it may be difficult to prove a negative.
But could you possibly provide some form of substantiation for your assertion of "No Video" rather than just opinion. thankyou

 

[frank-cole]

I know it may be difficult to prove a negative.
But could you possibly provide some form of substantiation for your assertion of "No Video" rather than just opinion. thankyou

It’s just a preconceived agenda born out an opinion on the MM case. It won’t change. The prosecution have to be painted as incompetent & all evidence & witness testimonies must be refuted or denied. Pro-CB or Pro-victim, directly links to one’s opinion on the MM case.

It’s interesting how polarising this case has become. We all feign a level of impartiality but the reality is either one or the other.

 

[RichardKimble]

I know it may be difficult to prove a negative.
But could you possibly provide some form of substantiation for your assertion of "No Video" rather than just opinion. thankyou

<modsnip> ... it's in here.

BKA-Chefprofiler hält Christian B. für Serienvergewaltiger

Fortsetzung im Prozess gegen den Maddie-Verdächtigen nach der Sommerpause: Das Gutachten des Fallanalytikers hinterlässt viele Fragen.

www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de

 

[Mex]

<modsnip> ... it's in here.

BKA-Chefprofiler hält Christian B. für Serienvergewaltiger

Fortsetzung im Prozess gegen den Maddie-Verdächtigen nach der Sommerpause: Das Gutachten des Fallanalytikers hinterlässt viele Fragen.

www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de

As I point out ad nauseum it is next to impossible to keep an informed position primarily as a result of the manner of reporting in German media.

It is little at all to do with paywalls although these don't help. But there is a general lack of current information epitomised by the fact there is a even a difficulty in accessing information about the activities of the Braunschweig court even now that the summer recess is over.

The point is that rapist and paedophile CB is facing justice in that court as a direct result of his friends' disgust setting the ball rolling by giving his name to the police. This led to

• the discovery of the DM aggravated rape on police file in Portugal
• the find was as a direct result of the match between what happened in the process of carrying out that bestiality as on record and the video made of the event as described by CB's erstwhile friends
• DM verified the details of the ordeal to which she had been subjected
• forensics and the German legal system verified that CB is the rapist

The genesis was the naming of CB in conjunction with the description of the rape tape in which CB's face was recognised when he removed his mask. The description enabled the police to trace DM who was able to see justice done as a result.

 

[Mex]

It’s just a preconceived agenda born out an opinion on the MM case. It won’t change. The prosecution have to be painted as incompetent & all evidence & witness testimonies must be refuted or denied. Pro-CB or Pro-victim, directly links to one’s opinion on the MM case.

It’s interesting how polarising this case has become. We all feign a level of impartiality but the reality is either one or the other.

It is never going to happen but I would really be happy to know the reasons for CB's heavy duty restraints in court pre recess.

During the process he has already been injured on an occasion which resulted in a hospital visit complete with chains

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Eyewitnesses report saying that a prison guard in the entrance greeted the medics telling them: "Somebody's been rioting in there."

He was in the emergency room for an hour before being led back to court with both handcuffs on his wrists and shackles on his feet and the hearing then continued some two hours late.

Maddie McCann suspect Christian Brueckner pictured in chains on way to hospital

Christian Brueckner, who is suspected of kidnapping and murdering Madeleine McCann, suffered two broken ribs before a court appearance and was taken to hospital

www.mirror.co.uk

One wonders if his injuries are the result of uncontrollable violence; he definitely ends up under heavy duty restraints as a result.

I got a wee bit side-tracked there.
I agree with you. But there is also a history of bad guys attracting a following. Convicted murderers always get pen pals (don't know about rapists) and there is always someone eager to walk on the wild side.

 

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[Mex]

False. The videotaping and ripping off of the mask refers to the attack on the unknown elderly victim, as seen by Heb and MS on the video they stole, not DM.

Despite the lack of a transcript from CB's trial in which he was found guilty of the aggravated rape and theft from DM, it is apparent that he was true to form in leaving the signature of his MO behind him for all to see.

• only the fact that CB was named to the police enabled him to be investigated and put on trial for this heinously vicious crime which left his victim with physical wounds including a broken jaw as well as severe psychological damage.

The only difference between the MO of HB's 2004 rape and the MO of DM's 2005 rape, was in the juration of the ordeal and pain being inflicted.
Otherwise - it was peas in the pod from the weapons carried with him in his rape kit - to the theatricality of the 'dress up' themes of painted goggles and tights.

Both rapes were filmed as noted in the German press reports of CB's trial. As was the absolute terror of both survivors each of whom thought she was to die.

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Our coverage of the conviction of Christian B. in 2019:

• Seven years in prison for brutal rape in Portugal

Acquaintances of the 43-year-old belonging to the petty criminal milieu had reported to the police about video recordings that had fallen into their hands.

On it, the defendant was seen in rape scenes – which she was convinced were real.

The video recordings have never surfaced, they are said to no longer exist.

Did the former acquaintances only make up the accusations to make themselves popular with the police, as the defendant believes?
The defense attorney points out contradictions in the statements. "They are not credible."

The chamber sees no motive why the two should have hit the defendant in the pan after years.

"It was through the rape of an elderly woman that you described that the investigations were started in the first place," recalls the presiding judge.

Based on the suspicion, an attempt was made to clarify whether such a crime had occurred in Portugal. The defendant's actions in the filmed scenes, described by the two witnesses, were similar to the rape of the 72-year-old.
In the overall view of all the evidence, according to the presiding judge, the court was convinced of the perpetration of the accused, who already had a criminal record for sexual and property offences.

 

[Mex]

I think it important that he is convicted for a rape he's proved to have committed, not just because he is deemed a serial rapist who may have raped HaB

A convicted rapist only becomes that once the case has been investigated and all the available evidence has been taken into consideration.

It is condescending to infer that police investigators aren't aware of the difficulties they face in assessing available evidence particularly in relation to cold cases.

They would be remiss indeed did they ignore similar crimes displaying similar modus operandi.

One thinks of the rape of DM and the rape of HB when all the moves were followed as though the rapist was following a script.
Particularly when the rape kit was transported on foot by the rapist including the video recording gear (much larger than now) which was a feature included in both rapes.

 

[RichardKimble]

A ten yr old at the time ( now 17) gave evidence via a video link this past Monday, in a statement in 2018 she said it was dark and didn't see his face well, also she said she didn't realise the man was masturbating this only became known to her with the passage of time.The father of the girl said CB seemed far too calm after being caught allegedly doing something wrong.

Zweifel im Prozess: Hat Christian B. vor Kindern masturbiert?

Der Maddie-Verdächtige wurde 2017 verhaftet, nachdem er bei einem Volksfest vor Kindern masturbiert haben soll. Oder war alles ganz anders: Wurde den kindlichen Zeugen von ihren Eltern ein Missbrauch eingeredet?

www.braunschweiger-zeitung.de

 

[RichardKimble]

Despite the lack of a transcript from CB's trial in which he was found guilty of the aggravated rape and theft from DM, it is apparent that he was true to form in leaving the signature of his MO behind him for all to see.

• only the fact that CB was named to the police enabled him to be investigated and put on trial for this heinously vicious crime which left his victim with physical wounds including a broken jaw as well as severe psychological damage.

The only difference between the MO of HB's 2004 rape and the MO of DM's 2005 rape, was in the juration of the ordeal and pain being inflicted.
Otherwise - it was peas in the pod from the weapons carried with him in his rape kit - to the theatricality of the 'dress up' themes of painted goggles and tights.

Both rapes were filmed as noted in the German press reports of CB's trial. As was the absolute terror of both survivors each of whom thought she was to die.

Snip
Our coverage of the conviction of Christian B. in 2019:

• Seven years in prison for brutal rape in Portugal

Acquaintances of the 43-year-old belonging to the petty criminal milieu had reported to the police about video recordings that had fallen into their hands.

On it, the defendant was seen in rape scenes – which she was convinced were real.

The video recordings have never surfaced, they are said to no longer exist.

Did the former acquaintances only make up the accusations to make themselves popular with the police, as the defendant believes?
The defense attorney points out contradictions in the statements. "They are not credible."

The chamber sees no motive why the two should have hit the defendant in the pan after years.

"It was through the rape of an elderly woman that you described that the investigations were started in the first place," recalls the presiding judge.

Based on the suspicion, an attempt was made to clarify whether such a crime had occurred in Portugal. The defendant's actions in the filmed scenes, described by the two witnesses, were similar to the rape of the 72-year-old.
In the overall view of all the evidence, according to the presiding judge, the court was convinced of the perpetration of the accused, who already had a criminal record for sexual and property offences.

You need to read the report of the profilers testimony from Monday, he admitted to differences in the attacks on DM and HaB, so no mo, least of all there is no record of DMs attack being filmed.