Germany - Truck crashes into Christmas market in Berlin, 9 dead, 19 Dec 2016

[dotr]

Is it possible the driver jumped out of the truck before the rampage? Is there auto control on the truck?

I have no idea if that is even possible. Just wondering if the driver made an escape before anyone even knew to look for him.

If he were still in the driver's seat, it seems that the truck could have made a longer run through the market. Maybe the truck stopped because it didn't have an operator in the driver's seat. ??

TOTAL speculation here, just thinking aloud.

jmopinion

Wonder if there was a way to slip out from the front cab to the back of the truck?
Horrible thought, but one that often comes to mind in these cases, could the perp have mixed in with the injured and taken away by paramedics, or posed as a shopper, understandably running away from the scene??
imo speculation.

 

[dotr]

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/12/20/toronto-christmas-market-heightens-security-heels-berlin-attack/

The Toronto Christmas Market at the Distillery District has heightened its security in light of an attack in Berlin, CityNews has learned.

A truck slammed into the market in downtown Berlin on Monday night, killing 12 people and injuring nearly 50.
“We are deeply saddened by what happened at the Christmas Market in Berlin,” Mathew Rosenblatt, of the Toronto Christmas Market, said in a statement.
“Our thoughts and prayers are with the families of the victims and with the people of Germany.
“We have been speaking with our security team to evaluate the protocols that we have in place to protect our visitors.”

 

[PrimeSuspect]

The on-board computer shows at 3.44pm on Monday someone tried to start it before another attempt at 4.52pm. By 5.37pm the truck’s engine was turned over again suggesting that someone unfamiliar may have been attempting to drive it.
By 7.34pm it began to move before driving into crowds at 8.15pm.

http://www.news.com.au/world/europe...2/news-story/a3d7776ebaee64d2a136f2f20a34e947

Could the hijacker have attempted to start truck while it was unattended and it repeatedly failed. The driver returned to truck, was incapacitated somehow but was forced to turn the truck over or explain how to turn it on? OR, the hijacker couldn't start it, driver already dead, so he contacted another hijacker who came to his assistance and got the truck started?

I hope police have sufficient witness statements to find these maniacs.

 

[ZaZara]

POLISH TRUCK DRIVER WAS STILL ALIVE DURING THE ATTACK

Bild.de
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/polizei/faengt-den-falschen-verdaechtigen-49419472.bild.html

The autopsy of the Polish truck driver shows that he was alive up to the assassination attempt. He was sitting in the driver's cabin as the terrorist drove the truck into the crowd.
An investigator: "There must have been a fight."

Apparently, the terrorist drew a knife, stabbed him several times because the Polish man grabbed the steering wheel to protect human life. When the truck came to a halt, the assassin shot Lukasz U. and ran away.


BBM


:rose:

 

[ZaZara]

INTELlIGENCE SERVICE: 50 PERSONS CAPABLE AND WILLING TO CARRY OUT AN ATTACK IN BERLIN

Bild.de
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/polizei/das-lief-bei-der-fahndung-schief-49419522.bild.html

A witness followed the alleged perpetrator on foot, and informed the police. However, the witness lost sight of the man, and he gave only a vague description of the offender.

Valuable time was lost. Only yesterday, in the morning after the attack, it became finally clear: The suspect is innocent - there are no traces of the 23-year-old in the truck. The investigation of his mobile phone, which was found in the refugee accommodation, did not yield any reference to ISIS.

Hours that the perpetrator could meanwhile use to flee.
The ISIS terror militia has many followers and supporters in the capital. Among them, the perpetrator could go into hiding.

A Berlin Intelligence Officer: "There are about 50 people in Berlin, whom we consider capable of carrying out an attack. In addition there exists a considerable number of sympathizers. A total of 500 people is a realistic number."


BBM

 

[ZaZara]

dear santa, i just want love and peace for my fellow man

 

[CARIIS]

POLISH TRUCK DRIVER WAS STILL ALIVE DURING THE ATTACK

Bild.de
http://www.bild.de/news/inland/polizei/faengt-den-falschen-verdaechtigen-49419472.bild.html

The autopsy of the Polish truck driver shows that he was alive up to the assassination attempt. He was sitting in the driver's cabin as the terrorist drove the truck into the crowd.
An investigator: "There must have been a fight."

Apparently, the terrorist drew a knife, stabbed him several times because the Polish man grabbed the steering wheel to protect human life. When the truck came to a halt, the assassin shot Lukasz U. and ran away.


BBM


:rose:

That feels credible the truck looked like , at its end it was heading back on the street.

 

[Jax49]

http://www.news18.com/news/world/be...-after-isis-claims-truck-rampage-1325594.html

Twenty-four injured remained in hospital, 14 of whom were in critical condition, according to de Maiziere.

 

[dotr]

http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/...l-see-more-of-these-says-journalist-1.3904731
[h=1]Berlin Christmas market attack: 'We'll see more of these,' says journalist[/h]

"Unfortunately I was not surprised," journalist and author Loretta Napoleoni tells The Current's Anna Maria Tremonti after hearing the news of the Berlin market tragedy.

"I was expecting something like that. Sort of a copycat of what happened in Nice," says Napoleoni, referring to an attack in France on Bastille day that left at least 84 people dead.

"I think we'll see more of these kind of attacks," she says because a "network" has been activated inside of Europe.
She points to the public image of the caliphate as "very, very weak at the moment" and says the way to represent themselves as a real force is through attacks.
"This is a pattern that we have seen in the last few months that no matter what happens they try to claim it because this is a strategy," Napoleoni explains.

 

[CARIIS]

[FONT=&quot]48 people injured in the attacks, 24 were released from hospital today,

[/FONT]14 of the injured in the Berlin attack are "still fighting for their lives," Interior Minister de Maiziere says.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/dec/20/berlin-christmas-market-attack-suspect-pakistan-live-coverage

 

[CARIIS]

[h=2]German interior minister says Belin attack investigators are following several leads - Reuters



[/h]

 

[LaborDayRN]

[h=2]German interior minister says Belin attack investigators are following several leads - Reuters



[/h]

I sure hope they find this monster!

 

[deoneta]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-g...USKBN14A0YR?mod=related&channelName=worldNews

German police seek Tunisian in hunt for market attacker.

 

[ZaZara]

NEW SUSPECT: PAPERS OF ANIS A. FROM TUNISIA FOUND IN TRUCK

Welt.de
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch...papiere-im-Lkw-Fahndung-nach-diesem-Mann.html

Two days after the attack that left twelve dead, the police is searching nationwide for a new suspect.

According to information received by "die Welt" the 23 year old Tunisian Anis A. is considered a threat. He allegedly uses at least four different names.
Documents indicating suspended deportation found in the truck led the investigators on his tracks. "Immediate measures" are now expected in NRW.

The man who drove the truck into the Christmas market at the Berlin Memorial Church is said to come from Tunisia according to information from Die Welt.
In the footwell of the driver's cabin of the truck a letter of suspended deportation with the personal details of Anis A. was found.

The 23-year-old, born in 1992 in the Tunisian city of Tataouine, is said to be using at least four names and is considered a threat. Moreover, he apparently has a residence in Berlin and in NRW.

According to the "SZ", he applied for asylum in Germany in April 2016. His asylum procedure has not yet been completed. He came to the attention of the Police in the summer because of a dangerous bodily injury, but could not be accused according to "Bild" because he went into hiding.

The police are searching for the suspect nationwide. Security circles mention "imminent measures" in North Rhine-Westphalia. The letter of suspended deportation was issued in the district of Kleve in North Rhine-Westphalia. The district of Kleve lies on the Lower Rhine and is part of the government district of Düsseldorf.

According to information from the "Rheinische Post", the authorities in NRW are no longer responsible for him because he has been staying in Berlin for an indefinite period. Nevertheless, he should have contacts with accommodation in the north of Kleve county.

The police, according to RBB information, assume that the requested person is injured. In the driver's cab of the truck DNA traces were secured. Therefore, the police are looking for all hospitals in Berlin and Brandenburg.


BBM


I cannot think of one proper reason why young men from Tunisia should be eligible for even the slightest refugee status. But I know it happens. Everywhere in Europe. Lawyers are making money defending all these tourists, politicians continue to make useless noises and taxpayer foot the bill.

Apparently, he left his papers in de truck. How very convenient.

 

[ZaZara]

Reporter Welt suggesting that police action may be immenent near Kleve, location would be a center for aslyum seekers.

Meanwhile, picture of the suspect is shown with all due respect for his legal rights to privacy:




:facepalm:

 

[ZaZara]

Daily Mail has the full picture:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html


Police today revealed they are hunting Anis Amri, 23, a refugee who came to Germany earlier this year. His paperwork was found in truck's footwell.

He is probably armed, 'highly dangerous' and a member of a 'large' Islamic organisation and has weapons training abroad, security sources say.

Despite an unfolding international manhunt the first pictures of him released in Germany have his eyes deliberately covered, thought to be because of strict privacy laws there. MailOnline has uncovered unblurred images.

BBM

 

[CARIIS]

What is GBH --all I got was a bacterial infection which I quickly ruled out as the answer here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe he bled out somewhere? Or had someone with car assisting him

Looking at the windshield sure seems like he might have been injured

From Daily Mail linked a post ago

t came as it was revealed the Pakistani asylum seeker held in the aftermath of the Berlin Christmas market massacre was held because he accidentally jumped a red light.
Naved Baluch, 23, who arrived in Germany a year ago, was seized and blamed for Monday night's carnage after witnesses saw him commit a traffic offence a mile away.

This makes no sense does it. ? How can this be correlated I am missing something??


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...massacre-jumping-red-light.html#ixzz4TTcLC4Ki
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[Jax49]

What is GBH --all I got was a bacterial infection which I quickly ruled out as the answer here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grievous Bodily Harm??

Grievous bodily harm (often abbreviated to GBH) is a technical term used in English criminal law

 

[popsicle]

GBH is known as a date rape drug.

http://www.urban75.com/Drugs/gbh.html

 

[CARIIS]

NEW SUSPECT: PAPERS OF ANIS A. FROM TUNISIA FOUND IN TRUCK

Welt.de
https://www.welt.de/politik/deutsch...papiere-im-Lkw-Fahndung-nach-diesem-Mann.html

Two days after the attack that left twelve dead, the police is searching nationwide for a new suspect.

According to information received by "die Welt" the 23 year old Tunisian Anis A. is considered a threat. He allegedly uses at least four different names.
Documents indicating suspended deportation found in the truck led the investigators on his tracks. "Immediate measures" are now expected in NRW.

The man who drove the truck into the Christmas market at the Berlin Memorial Church is said to come from Tunisia according to information from Die Welt.
In the footwell of the driver's cabin of the truck a letter of suspended deportation with the personal details of Anis A. was found.

The 23-year-old, born in 1992 in the Tunisian city of Tataouine, is said to be using at least four names and is considered a threat. Moreover, he apparently has a residence in Berlin and in NRW.

According to the "SZ", he applied for asylum in Germany in April 2016. His asylum procedure has not yet been completed. He came to the attention of the Police in the summer because of a dangerous bodily injury, but could not be accused according to "Bild" because he went into hiding.

The police are searching for the suspect nationwide. Security circles mention "imminent measures" in North Rhine-Westphalia. The letter of suspended deportation was issued in the district of Kleve in North Rhine-Westphalia. The district of Kleve lies on the Lower Rhine and is part of the government district of Düsseldorf.

According to information from the "Rheinische Post", the authorities in NRW are no longer responsible for him because he has been staying in Berlin for an indefinite period. Nevertheless, he should have contacts with accommodation in the north of Kleve county.

The police, according to RBB information, assume that the requested person is injured. In the driver's cab of the truck DNA traces were secured. Therefore, the police are looking for all hospitals in Berlin and Brandenburg.


BBM


I cannot think of one proper reason why young men from Tunisia should be eligible for even the slightest refugee status. But I know it happens. Everywhere in Europe. Lawyers are making money defending all these tourists, politicians continue to make useless noises and taxpayer foot the bill.

Apparently, he left his papers in de truck. How very convenient.

Do you think he wanted to be identified. That is kinda what I thought when I first heard about ID in truck