Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #7

[kittythehare]

The latest victim to be named was identified last November.
This required a press conference this week.
Call me cynical but I'm starting to get really edgy.

 

[LadyL]

This MSM article says that AE and her two adult children were forced to spend multiple nights in a rental car while LE were searching their home and property, while they "bounced" between relatives' homes and the rental car.

Prosecutors in Gilgo Beach killings are giving Rex Heuermann's defense a vast trove of evidence

Weeks after charging Long Island architect Rex Heuermann in a string of killings known as the Gilgo Beach murders, prosecutors say they’ve begun providing his lawyer with reams of evidence

abcnews.go.com

Ellerup filed for divorce after her husband was arrested.

She and her two adult children, who also live at the house, returned last week after bouncing between relatives’ homes and a rental car, where they were forced to spend multiple nights, according to the lawyer.

“These people are also innocent victims in this,” Macedonio added. “They’re the unknown victims because no one cares about them.”

An attorney for the adult children, Vess Mitev, said his clients were considering legal action against police for the “deplorable and roughshod handling of the investigation.”

Thank you! I'm surprised more articles haven't mentioned it.

 

[kittythehare]

Retired Detective Pat Portela

New York police refusing to release 911 tapes in serial killer case

The call was made by escort Shannan Gilbert, whose disappearance led to the discovery of 10 bodies near Long Island's Gilgo Beach.

www.nbcnews.com

2022

https://twitter.com/x/status/1504562800521355274

Sini said in a statement that he sought to remove the lead detective, Patrick Portela, because “it became increasingly clear that [he] was not willing to effectively collaborate,” including by refusing to share information with the FBI. Sini said that he was met with “fierce resistance” from within the police department when he initially advocated for the detective’s removal, and noted that investigators under his successor “solved the case in eighteen months without [Portela’s] involvement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/01/gilgo-beach-serial-killer-rex-heuermann/

Patrick Portela, the lead detective investigating the Gilgo Four, was ultimately removed from the case, prior to the creation of the Gilgo Beach Homicide Investigation Task Force in February 2022. Under that force, leadership turned attention to a tip from a witness about a pickup trip that later connected them to the suspect. Authorities officially arrested Heuermann in midtown Manhattan on July 13.

What We Know About the Gilgo Beach Murders Case

The evidence against Rex Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect, includes 2,500 documents and hundreds of hours of video footage.

time.com

@Warwick7

alive okay.

 

[Ursamajr]

The latest victim to be named was identified last November.
This required a press conference this week.
Call me cynical but I'm starting to get really edgy.

Me too.

My apologies if this has already been discussed (I am exhausted and I figure I'm late on this): after listening to the Joshua Zeman /Joe Giacalone interview from the other day, it sounds like Karen Vergata's name was floating around with journalists and bloggers for a few days(?)/weeks(?). Perhaps LE wanted to get ahead of the news leaking to the general public. LE did know her name back in November of 2022 and it makes sense they would wait to release *IF* they do believe Heuermann is involved. I suppose it's possible thats not the case and they waited maybe because of the link to the Gilgo Beach location? Announcing FIJD's name back in November could have set Heuermann off?

I don't know why I'm edgy. I don't believe Heuermann only killed 4. I don't think all of his victims have been found but I don't want there to be more. Thinking about the undeveloped land down in SC makes me edgy. Thinking about the Suffolk County PD corruption makes me super edgy. I still think there are ways that mess can bungle up this entire case. Maybe. Why are you edgy?

 

[fred&edna]

Thanks again. It’s interesting that the 59th Street Bridge is coming up in Pak’s depo as where he picked up Shannon and then a couple of days later, he was told to pick up another escort there. 59th Street Bridge was also mentioned a few times in the RH bail doc relating to cell pings, if I’m remembering right. I suppose this is a popular spot for escorts to be picked up from. Another ”coincidence“ between Shannon and the G4. I apologize if what’s new info to me is redundant to others.

also interesting that Pak says he was convicted in 2003/4 of “misusing a passport“ to help an Asian male illegally enter the country. I’m having a hard time not letting my imagination jump to conclusions. I do hope someone is looking into any connections to RH.

I wonder if there were any arrests involving significant prostitution businesses near the 59th St bridge back in those days. If so, what business name/s was being used. It used to be easy to search for news reports of busts years ago but not so now. (imo)

 

[fred&edna]

Retired Detective Pat Portela

New York police refusing to release 911 tapes in serial killer case

The call was made by escort Shannan Gilbert, whose disappearance led to the discovery of 10 bodies near Long Island's Gilgo Beach.

www.nbcnews.com

2022

https://twitter.com/x/status/1504562800521355274

Sini said in a statement that he sought to remove the lead detective, Patrick Portela, because “it became increasingly clear that [he] was not willing to effectively collaborate,” including by refusing to share information with the FBI. Sini said that he was met with “fierce resistance” from within the police department when he initially advocated for the detective’s removal, and noted that investigators under his successor “solved the case in eighteen months without [Portela’s] involvement.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/08/01/gilgo-beach-serial-killer-rex-heuermann/

Patrick Portela, the lead detective investigating the Gilgo Four, was ultimately removed from the case, prior to the creation of the Gilgo Beach Homicide Investigation Task Force in February 2022. Under that force, leadership turned attention to a tip from a witness about a pickup trip that later connected them to the suspect. Authorities officially arrested Heuermann in midtown Manhattan on July 13.

What We Know About the Gilgo Beach Murders Case

The evidence against Rex Heuermann, a 59-year-old architect, includes 2,500 documents and hundreds of hours of video footage.

time.com

@Warwick7

alive okay.

I don't think mention of his death was meant "literally". jmo

 

[fred&edna]

I disagree with some viewpoints but that's just my opinion.

 

[arielilane]

Accused Long Island Serial Killer’s Family Living in ‘Surreal’ Horror Show, Lawyer Says

Lawyers for the family of accused Long Island serial killer Rex Heuermann say his adult children are in a “surreal, waking horror show,” according to Fox News Digital. Heuermann’s two adult children, 26-year-old Victoria Heuermann, and Christopher Sheridan, 33, are reportedly trying to put their...

www.crimeonline.com

August 7, 2023

 

[LadyL]

Accused Long Island Serial Killer’s Family Living in ‘Surreal’ Horror Show, Lawyer Says

Lawyers for the family of accused Long Island serial killer Rex Heuermann say his adult children are in a “surreal, waking horror show,” according to Fox News Digital. Heuermann’s two adult children, 26-year-old Victoria Heuermann, and Christopher Sheridan, 33, are reportedly trying to put their...

www.crimeonline.com

August 7, 2023

glad to see a nice picture of them

 

[Sundog]

glad to see a nice picture of them

I wonder if this is a picture of them that was taken before all this happened or if it is a current photo.

 

[sds71]

'Sweetest of People': Classmate Remembers Karen Vergata, Jane Doe 7

The North Shore High School alumnus recalled his friend as a "creative" and "empathetic" person.

patch.com

 

[sds71]

Cold cases in areas of Brooklyn linked to accused Gilgo beach killer re-examined

CARROLL GARDENS, Brooklyn (PIX11) — The disappearance of a 12-year-old girl on her way to junior high school in 1991 is getting talked about again, along with two other cold case murders that…

pix11.com

 

[PillowofWinds]

Has anyone noticed someone who had been posting here that no longer is posting? People have always suspected that the guilty party(ies) would interact online in these forums. I am wondering if there is someone who was suddenly no longer active once RH was taken into custody. I wonder if the admins have any thoughts?? I'd be curious to go back and read their old posts, if so.

 

[K_i_w_i]

Has anyone noticed someone who had been posting here that no longer is posting? People have always suspected that the guilty party(ies) would interact online in these forums. I am wondering if there is someone who was suddenly no longer active once RH was taken into custody. I wonder if the admins have any thoughts?? I'd be curious to go back and read their old posts, if so.

I have been wondering the same thing!

 

[FromGermany1]

I wonder if this is a picture of them that was taken before all this happened or if it is a current photo.

I believe, it is the new black pet dog, and so the photo might be actual.

 

[IDK]

'Sweetest of People': Classmate Remembers Karen Vergata, Jane Doe 7

The North Shore High School alumnus recalled his friend as a "creative" and "empathetic" person.

patch.com

Thank you so much for posting this article! It also includes a link to her high school friend’s FB page where he posted a memorial tribute to Karen. There were some interesting comments on his post, IMO. She sounds like a lovely person. RIP to Karen.

 

[hazel324]

I wonder if this is a picture of them that was taken before all this happened or if it is a current photo.

Surely it has to be from before....real joy on faces (probably love for wee pup) and no sign of angst

 

[dotr]

Cold cases in areas of Brooklyn linked to accused Gilgo beach killer re-examined

CARROLL GARDENS, Brooklyn (PIX11) — The disappearance of a 12-year-old girl on her way to junior high school in 1991 is getting talked about again, along with two other cold case murders that…

pix11.com

Names referenced in the article..

NY - NY - Tiffany Dixon, 12, Brooklyn, 10 Oct 1991

anyone find it odd a young woman would shift her career goals from Scientist to Model at such a young age? Why? I don't find it odd because I remember telling a friend at a similar age that I wanted to be a model- this is the age some girls start reading the teen-magazines, want to learn about...

www.websleuths.com

NY - NY-Park Slope, Brooklyn, Sandra Acosta, 23, found dismembered. Oct 1991

https://pix11.com/news/local-news/brooklyn/cold-cases-in-areas-of-brooklyn-linked-to-accused-gilgo-beach-killer-re-examined/amp/ "on Oct. 30, 1991, the body parts of a Park Slope woman, Sandra Acosta, were discovered at a weeded lot near the Gowanus section of Brooklyn. Her two hands, feet...

www.websleuths.com

NY - NY - Su-Ya Kim, Queens, 29 Jun 1991

Dailymotion - Su-Ya Kim - a News & Politics video@@AMEPARAM@@http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/xaepc6_suya@@AMEPARAM@@xaepc6_suya (Above, the case on Unsolved Mysteries, a TV show popular from the late 1980s - early 2000s) Su-Ya Kim A woman’s remains are found in a New York dumpster...

www.websleuths.com

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Has anyone noticed someone who had been posting here that no longer is posting? People have always suspected that the guilty party(ies) would interact online in these forums. I am wondering if there is someone who was suddenly no longer active once RH was taken into custody. I wonder if the admins have any thoughts?? I'd be curious to go back and read their old posts, if so.

If RH was on here, it will be in evidence at some point. They already have his vile searches.

 

[kittythehare]

Me too.

My apologies if this has already been discussed (I am exhausted and I figure I'm late on this): after listening to the Joshua Zeman /Joe Giacalone interview from the other day, it sounds like Karen Vergata's name was floating around with journalists and bloggers for a few days(?)/weeks(?). Perhaps LE wanted to get ahead of the news leaking to the general public. LE did know her name back in November of 2022 and it makes sense they would wait to release *IF* they do believe Heuermann is involved. I suppose it's possible thats not the case and they waited maybe because of the link to the Gilgo Beach location? Announcing FIJD's name back in November could have set Heuermann off?

I don't know why I'm edgy. I don't believe Heuermann only killed 4. I don't think all of his victims have been found but I don't want there to be more. Thinking about the undeveloped land down in SC makes me edgy. Thinking about the Suffolk County PD corruption makes me super edgy. I still think there are ways that mess can bungle up this entire case. Maybe. Why are you edgy?

A full investigation will necessarily uncover formerly suppressed information, I think.
As this will have to involve Suffolk county players are they prepared to do further naming and shaming or allow sleeping dogs to lay?

I'm not sure how committed they are.

My own suspicions are that rH had access to a building where he brought his victims, a room, a basement, a warehouse, a shed.. i think , speculatively that there is where the information will be.

As nothing particularly relevant appears to have been discovered at his residence there simply must be another location somewhere.

As these murders occurred while his wife was away it suggests he required a few overnight or longer stays away from his home, suggesting he possibly held them for a time before killing and disposing of them- his own personal torture chamber.

we know the dates they went missing but not the dates they died or were disposed.