Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 3 murders, July 2023 #8

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I just want his lair to be found so bad..
We're really stuck until that happens.
I believe their deaths were prolonged because of the nature of the beast and if his only desire in killing was instant death, he could easily have broken their necks in the street and kept on walking..
that is not what he chose though, is it?
He chose petite light young women.

Not his own size.

And not just to break their necks quickly and kill them fast either IMO.

That lair simply must be found.

IMO (rant over)

Based on his Google searches, I think his victim preference could be diverse. I think it’s possible he has victims that may fall out of the same physical traits. Who knows, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
 
I just want his lair to be found so bad..
We're really stuck until that happens.
I believe their deaths were prolonged because of the nature of the beast and if his only desire in killing was instant death, he could easily have broken their necks in the street and kept on walking..
that is not what he chose though, is it?
He chose petite light young women.

Not his own size.

And not just to break their necks quickly and kill them fast either IMO.

That lair simply must be found.

IMO (rant over)
I think it could possibly be near Penn Station. I think that’s where Maureen’s last call came from. LE is unable to connect RH to her yet so perhaps she might be the key. He worked in Manhattan, commuting through New York-Penn Station. I think he could have somehow incapacitated them rather quickly upon meetup considering difference in stature and body style. Did he actually greet them or was he watching and waiting for them? Stalking them like game. He had his prey selected, his weapon of choice (maybe his hands, maybe mace or taser) to incapacitate them, a lair pre-prepared, already stocked with preferred materials (burlap), a vehicle to transport (did he have his car already waiting at Penn Station or Grand Central) to capture his date, do the deed, discard her body and return home to his naive unsuspecting wife.
 
I think it could possibly be near Penn Station. I think that’s where Maureen’s last call came from. LE is unable to connect RH to her yet so perhaps she might be the key. He worked in Manhattan, commuting through New York-Penn Station. I think he could have somehow incapacitated them rather quickly upon meetup considering difference in stature and body style. Did he actually greet them or was he watching and waiting for them? Stalking them like game. He had his prey selected, his weapon of choice (maybe his hands, maybe mace or taser) to incapacitate them, a lair pre-prepared, already stocked with preferred materials (burlap), a vehicle to transport (did he have his car already waiting at Penn Station or Grand Central) to capture his date, do the deed, discard her body and return home to his naive unsuspecting wife.
prolly picked them up in his vehicle by pre arrangement, offered to pay them extra to go home with him, home is the torture chamber which probably looks pretty normal on the outside.

But Really I think he had many different ways of operating, the way he described the building codes was like someone describing loopholes for clients..

I think he would have perfected it over the years.
Whatever that means in his mind.
Perfection.

He had a helluva long run of it..
 
Based on his Google searches, I think his victim preference could be diverse. I think it’s possible he has victims that may fall out of the same physical traits. Who knows, but it wouldn’t surprise me.
..bearing in mind we have only seen his Google searches specific to his current charges at that..
what else is there, I wonder?
 
Think about that. Wouldn't it backfire on the defendant? This witness would have to describe the green Chevy Avalanche (now in the possession of the SCPD and still in the ownership of the defendant or his brother), the "ogre" like man . . . It still all points to RH . . . How is that a good tactic?
Yes. In the previous thread a member suggested that there had to be many Chevy Avalanches in LI, at the time but that got me wondering. How many people, outside landscaping and parks crews would choose a green bevy Avalanche? Also, how many were owned by huge men? It still the link/tip that once taken seriously broke this case wide open.
 
More importantly, I hope the prosecution gets all the witnesses and evidence it needs to build a solid case that will keep Rex H behind bars for life and beyond. They've amassed a great deal of evidence, but some of it is circumstantial, some of it requires expert testimony that jurors need to be able to understand. That's especially so with DNA evidence, for murders that happened more than a dozen years ago.

I also hope the prosecution gets a good, unbiased jury.
I’m going to use this post to ask a question.

is it true that by withholding a victim in this case. And RH isn’t convicted. The DA still has the fourth victim to prosecute him on.

is this true?
 
At first I thought well, maybe he later saw the vehicle later with the wife around town or something, it was the only way I could fit him in with what JR said. I agree he was definitely dismissed for some issue. DS may or not know the reasons why, but my invisible radar could tell he is pissed he was overlooked and heard ‘go away you’re a pest’ from LE those times he made visits to the police station. He wasn’t even recognized when first announced. Uncool!

The problem with DS's information being dismissed is that LE apparently didn't even try to follow up on it. A simple series of searches would have brought them right to Rex's door, right in their target area.

Big mistake on their part, but hopefully its one others can learn from.

It's extremely valid evidence and a jury will see it as such. I'm surprised anyone is trying to discount it. Good luck with that.

JMO
 
I’m going to use this post to ask a question.

is it true that by withholding a victim in this case. And RH isn’t convicted. The DA still has the fourth victim to prosecute him on.

is this true?

I hadn't heard anything about that. IANAL, but I assume you're talking about the 4th victim for whom they're still gathering evidence? There are some verified attorneys here at WS, we might ask them. @PrairieWind and @Gitana are two of them. Maybe they'll drop in, but they'll need a little background because they may not be following this case closely.
 
Hi all, I am new here. Something tells me he will probably have somewhere he took the girls to in Queens, since he made the taunting calls about a whorehouse in Queens. I could be totally wrong though
Welcome.
Good to see you and thanks for a great first post.
Queens sounds like a great place to start..
 
No, wrote all of those by hand way back when jesus was a boy..

I don't like it either and I don't have a clue how to work it or what info it would require to search for a needle in a haystack..
he had access to so many places it would be almost impossible to search each and every one of them.

If we could just get one clue from one survivor...
While chat GPT is great fun, I suspect LE has software that may do the same thing for them. If so, his known locations and relevant information is being or has been entered then "jostled" around for various outcomes. I was going to suggest a spreadsheet, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if a spreadsheet or some other arrangement would be better. I doubt that WSers have enough info to enter to make chat GPT extremely helpful I wonder . . . it'd be interesting to play around with. If you have the time. Great idea. There are other A.I. sites to explore as well.
 
While chat GPT is great fun, I suspect LE has software that may do the same thing for them. If so, his known locations and relevant information is being or has been entered then "jostled" around for various outcomes. I was going to suggest a spreadsheet, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if a spreadsheet or some other arrangement would be better. I doubt that WSers have enough info to enter to make chat GPT extremely helpful I wonder . . . it'd be interesting to play around with. If you have the time. Great idea. There are other A.I. sites to explore as well.
Investigation by AI sounds like a successful lawsuit against LE waiting to happen, to me.

MOO
 
IMO, we show some gender bias here. Of course no-one should be actually thinking that AE is likely to have an active involvement in the murders, as the LE has stated that she was out of town when these happened and she has not been named a POI.

However, it is also understandable why people are shocked about the (most likely misleading) "she has not been interviewed" statement by her lawyer. After all, her hair was on the victims. Moreover, awawk it was most likely 3 units of her hair and only 1 unit of RH-s hair. Just imagine if these 3 hairs were of an unknown male friend of RH. Would you be happy if there were no interviews with him, just because there were some old plane tickets for these 3 dates, so topic ended? I don't think I would be happy with that.
If there has not been a complete and thorough interview by LE, I believe there is a good strategic reason. Perhaps we can muse, ponder and wonder why without accusing AE or LE of anything untoward. LE knows lots and lots that we don't. There is much accumulated "possible evidence" pulled from the home and belongings that LE is sifting through before they have a better grasp of the total picture. Building a case is cumulative. LE is doing it's work - very quietly. We don't have enough to have complete understanding of some of the whys. I trust they will get there and who knows where this entire investigation MIGHT go.
 
Wondering if any pics taken by the reporters show RH paying a visit, also if any from that area knew the 'unknown Asian male? Maybe there was /is a kind of large (guessing big RH needs space) backroom type space there that was for sale or rent and no questions are asked? speculation, imo.
By Sara Dorn and Brad Hamilton
February 2, 2019 rbbm
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Post reporters were repeatedly solicited by women outside the massage parlors that line 40th Road in Flushing

''It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.''

''Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.'''

The Post obtained shared surveillance tapes showing dozens of men entering and leaving with women, including one clad only in panties and a shirt. One tape features a man groping a young escort from behind as the two walk up the stairs together''

''The Flushing Business Improvement District says it’s identified eight brothels on that block, between Prince and Main, just around the corner from the Flushing Main Street MTA/LIRR station.''
 
Unless I misunderstood his comments that have been posted here via video link many times I think he told us what he believes the connection is. He just hasn't told us how he knows (or has come to believe) of this connection. Does he know of information seized on his work computer? We do not know. But he seems confident that RH associated with like-minded people at minimum via the dark web, and therefore could hold the key to solving more of these unsolved homicides. And, he firmly believes AE knows more than she is saying (and has stated he has a witness to this). He seemed to be coming from a place of aggravation (running out of patience) and wants the coddling to stop and the pressure to start. Is it right or wrong? I won't attempt to judge. But I think in the end it's actually coming from a place of purpose, not attention seeking.

At least that's what I understood him to be saying. I could be completely wrong.

jmo
What's interesting about all this is I think it could still have been, reasonably and without extreme behavioral deviation of behalf of the caller, for RH to be the harasser even if he didn't murder Shannan. I bet during covid he watched all those documentaries.
 
While chat GPT is great fun, I suspect LE has software that may do the same thing for them. If so, his known locations and relevant information is being or has been entered then "jostled" around for various outcomes. I was going to suggest a spreadsheet, but I'm not knowledgeable enough to know if a spreadsheet or some other arrangement would be better. I doubt that WSers have enough info to enter to make chat GPT extremely helpful I wonder . . . it'd be interesting to play around with. If you have the time. Great idea. There are other A.I. sites to explore as well.
No doubt lE have all the gear but sleuthing is the name of the game here.
So we can just look at all abandoned buildings and all derelict buildings in lI and in Queens, why not..
Or we can add a list of all contracts he has ever held providing proof he had access.

This will still run to thousands of buildings..
but I can't watch lawyers squabbling for another day of my life.

This is a far more exciting project..

It's lengthy..

But it's what we do best, when we do it.

That's fine me waffling but alone I can't do any of it..

need some hot techies to take up the cause or even great mapping people..

I'd like to go back to mid to late 90's.

Betcha there are some buildings still uninhabited and still unchanged in all that time.

If the torture chamber is found, the drudgery ends automatically..
 
Wondering if any pics taken by the reporters show RH paying a visit, also if any from that area knew the 'unknown Asian male? Maybe there was /is a kind of large (guessing big RH needs space) backroom type space there that was for sale or rent and no questions are asked? speculation, imo.
By Sara Dorn and Brad Hamilton
February 2, 2019 rbbm
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Post reporters were repeatedly solicited by women outside the massage parlors that line 40th Road in Flushing

''It’s New York City’s Grand Central of illicit sex.

A tiny Queens block has become a booming hotbed of hookers operating out of at least eight Chinese massage parlors, The Post found.

The slim strip of 40th Road in Flushing’s Chinatown, just a short walk from Citi Field, has become a 24/7 destination for sex-seeking horndogs from all over the metro area, as “masseuses” brazenly compete for johns on the narrow sidewalks.

One former NYC crimefighter said he hasn’t seen such a dense concentration of flesh factories in years.''

''Non-Asian men are specifically targeted by the Chinese pimps, working girls and spotters who steer customers into storefront spaces or second-floor “spas” for hour-long encounters.'''

The Post obtained shared surveillance tapes showing dozens of men entering and leaving with women, including one clad only in panties and a shirt. One tape features a man groping a young escort from behind as the two walk up the stairs together''

''The Flushing Business Improvement District says it’s identified eight brothels on that block, between Prince and Main, just around the corner from the Flushing Main Street MTA/LIRR station.''
Good on you dotr! you don't mess around.
excited to look now..
 
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