Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #12

[Mountain_Kat]

What would be the likelihood of all 3 bodies being placed in the same positioning, missing a left shoe and with wood shavings left at the scenes by two different killers?

"Though Bittrolff’s DNA was not found on Costilla, all three victims were displayed in the same sexual manner and missing a single shoe, prosecutors said, and wood shavings were found at all three scenes. Both Tangredi and McNamee were known to engage in sex work, while Costilla “led a similar lifestyle,” Spota said."

Add in the fact that Bittrolff's DNA was linked to Rita Tangredi and Colleen McNamee, and Rex Heuermann's DNA was linked to Sandra Costilla, and all 3 bodies were identically posed, I'd say the odds are astronomical that JB and RH had never come in contact with each other.

JMO

 

[CuriousCricket]

Add in the fact that Bittrolff's DNA was linked to Rita Tangredi and Colleen McNamee, and Rex Heuermann's DNA was linked to Sandra Costilla, and all 3 bodies were identically posed, I'd say the odds are astronomical that JB and RH had never come in contact with each other.

JMO

And incredible that RH's was in the middle. Bodies found: Tangredi - Nov. 2 1993, McNamee Jan. 30, 1994, and Costilla December 1993.

Man Accused in Decades-Old Strangling Deaths of Naked Women Found in Woods, May Be Linked to Third Murder: Prosecutor

A 48-year-old married father of two has been charged in the strangling deaths of two women whose naked bodies were found in the woods on Long Island more than 20 years ago, and police believe he may be responsible for another slaying around the same time, prosecutors say.

www.nbcnewyork.com

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I hope the only thing linking RH to Costilla's murder isn't a DNA match from a single hair. Given the likelihood that Costilla was an escort...it would be incredibly easy for his attorney to argue that RH engaged her professional services, but didn't kill her.

 

[iamshadow21]

I hope the only thing linking RH to Costilla's murder isn't a DNA match from a single hair. Given the likelihood that Costilla was an escort...it would be incredibly easy for his attorney to argue that RH engaged her professional services, but didn't kill her.

Two hairs, two DNA profiles. One from RH, the other from a witness who resided with him a few months prior to Sandra's death.

MOO

 

[Ursamajr]

I hope the only thing linking RH to Costilla's murder isn't a DNA match from a single hair. Given the likelihood that Costilla was an escort...it would be incredibly easy for his attorney to argue that RH engaged her professional services, but didn't kill her.

That would be darkly ironic considering Bitrolff is probably going to claim the same about Rita Tangredi and Colleen McNamee.

 

[Betty P]

Perhaps I am overestimating the police's abilities, but don't they have people for cybercrimes? I guess it would be like finding a specific grain of sand at the beach, though .. .

Many local governments don't have money for expert staff for cybercrimes, but they usually rely on their state to have experts on hand to help. Suffolk County ended up getting help from the FBI and probably the state of NY, too.

 

[Teche]

And, I think RH has a theatrical interest and wanted a specific scene to look a certain way. His "playtime" perhaps involved a script he liked to follow, and maybe he stage managed the encounters. Maybe he saw himself as a director as well photographer. I'm not even sure he considered himself the "star" but that his horrific creative process was the star.

I wouldn't be surprised if he killed elsewhere, thought, like in the places you mentioned with the purpose of throwing LE off track.

jmo

Have any of his pictures been discovered?

 

[iamshadow21]

Have any of his pictures been discovered?

If they had, that information has not been made public.

MOO

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

I don't know, but I've heard people speculate here that, once he established the Gilgo Beach dumping ground, he went to Manorville and retrieved "parts" and put them at Gilgo. He did that with some others, too.

Have to wonder whether he might have kept a map anywhere of disposal sites or areas. Maybe investigators will find something along those lines? I don’t recall any mention of something like that on the portions of his list / guide or manifesto I viewed? MOO

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Two hairs, two DNA profiles. One from RH, the other from a witness who resided with him a few months prior to Sandra's death.

MOO

Right. Thanks for correcting me on that. There was also a hair found on Sandra that didn't match to Heuermann ( or Bittrolff either for that matter I assume ). In the case of either Rita or Colleen, wasn't there also a hair that didn't match Bittrolff ? I can't remember.

 

[Inthedetails]

Have to wonder whether he might have kept a map anywhere of disposal sites or areas. Maybe investigators will find something along those lines? I don’t recall any mention of something like that on the portions of his list / guide or manifesto I viewed? MOO

That is a good thought. I bet he did have a record of some chart - a map, a chart, a list. Speculation, jmo.

 

[Teche]

DBM

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

Yes, for people into technology it was easy. He had all the apparatus. He must have spent a fortune on electronics. Back then we were able to transfer photos from cameras to save files, and you could go to photomat and ask for your photos on a disk. I am not sure what he may have be doing with film though unless he was developing them himself as it seems like he was taking incriminating photos.

Yes SkylarSid…. it is interesting to walk back in the mind to those days when you went to KMart or Sears or the like and deposited or mailed the film negatives to be processed and returned to you as pictures; some black and white and later color. And waited sometimes weeks for them.

Based on his believed imagery RH had a slightly different problem. Who could or would look at any pictures he had taken. Not just anyone for certain. Several have asked whether he might have had a dark room to develop his own pictures?

Not sure on that…… but now looking at some recent posts in this thread including those photos taken in the yard during the search warrant execution, the investigators were IMO holding up a strip of film negatives to the light to view them. I wonder where that will lead? MOO

 

[willy wagtail]

That is a good thought. I bet he did have a record of some chart - a map, a chart, a list. Speculation, jmo.

Like Hansen

 

[willy wagtail]

I wonder if any pics were shared via XXXXXX sites, other snuff sickos, etc?

Wasn't that cop's bag full of discs or DVDs with Toys as well? You know J B !!!

 

[Soulmagent]

The mother appears to have purchased the Palmyra VA home in1994- so, where did she stay between leaving the home with RH and wife #1- from 1993-1994 purchase of VA house?

I dunno . but I want to .

 

[LadyL]

I'd be curious to know how much RH's propensity for terrible spelling will end up helping LE in this case. I'm guessing quite a bit. One thing I noticed almost immediately is that he spells " disorganized " three separate times as " disorganizized ". That's an incredibly specific spelling error to repeat over and over.

could that be attributed to predictive text? I don't know if microsoft word that he was using would've had that capability in 2000 ...

 

[vls12345]

I wonder if RH has a safety deposit box somewhere where he has stashed photos or maps or other items?

Are LE able to access a safety deposit box if they find out about it and get a warrant?

 

[vls12345]

Interesting that his manifesto/to do/checklist is typed in all caps. I associate all caps writing with various engineering professions including architects. MOO.

Gilgo Beach killings: How Rex Heuermann's 'manifesto' became road map for investigators

Suffolk's district attorney on Friday called the "planning document" a major break in the case, telling Newsday its contents prompted a second search of Rex Heuermann's home and the woods in Manorville.

www.newsday.com

 

[Soulmagent]

Serious question . Did he use every travel excuse to murder women? Since 1993 or 4 ? or plan excursions for the purpose? Hopefully he spent more time writing that manifesto then he did hunting and murdering woman. I doubt it .