Gilgo Beach LISK Serial Killer, Rex Heuermann, charged with 6 murders, July 2023 #12

[vls12345]

agreed. this is production speak. while this is just conjecture, the snuff film thing keeps coming back to me. Chris Loeb talked about seeing a guy in a mask (gimp mask?) torturing a sw. the gimp mask thing has also come up before.
could it be possible that he was actually producing and distributing this material? I know Tierney mentioned yesterday that none of the women RH has been charged with have been featured in any of the material found yet, but if he recorded himself I doubt it would be digitized. I'm also curious if there was any photo developing/dark room chemicals found.

I also wondered if he had a darkroom set up for developing film.

 

[Izzylizzy]

About RH being contacted by KJ once he was in prison? This was all very public, and there's no indication they'd had any kind of contact prior. KJ is by all reports quite a prolific penpal with many serial killers and murderers. Him writing to RH doesn't signify anything deeper than KJ is chatty, bored, and likes talking to other serial killers.

MOO

BBM

Yet that doesn't explain why RH answered him while knowing his correspondence was being scrutinized.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Talk about a "conflict of interest".

CS's lawyer Vess Mitev got paid $200,000 by Peacock for the documentary and is representing his already client CS who has "development disabilities" who along with mother Asa and sister VH got paid 1 million.

Which of course leads Mitev to claim that his client who has "developmental disabilities" has a "mind of his own".

Sadly CS does not have an advocate who wouldn't benefit personally in decision making.

It’s hard to say. If I recall, it was AEs lawyer who first promoted her son’s health situation, at the same time he was soliciting sympathy and money for her after RH was arrested. We can’t know how capable he may be based on the statements of these two lawyers but we do know they’re adults, not children. MOO

 

[Ursamajr]

BBM

Yet that doesn't explain why RH answered him while knowing his correspondence was being scrutinized.

One can hope it's because he's itchin' to talk about his "work". He liked the "artist" and "painting" metaphor enough to jot it down in his murder notes. Depraved.

 

[Muddy K]

Maybe I am misunderstanding, but page 20 of this document (I won't post a screenshot in case anyone doesn't want the graphic details) says something to the effect of "Pornographic images accessed by Heuermann include (insert gross stuff here) which notably and largely coincide with how the remains of Sandra Costilla, Jessica Taylor, and Valerie Mack were discovered."

I took that to mean they have a strong suspicion it is actually the victims in the images?

DocumentCloud

www.documentcloud.org

I interpreted that language to mean that he recreated with those victims poses he'd seen online and admired.

 

[x_files]

None of our business (of course), but... I can't help wondering how he met first wife, the 1993 live-in, and AE.

I'm shocked any sane person would date him let alone marry him.

 

[Izzylizzy]

It’s hard to say. If I recall, it was AEs lawyer who first promoted her son’s health situation, at the same time he was soliciting sympathy and money for her after RH was arrested. We can’t know how capable he may be based on the statements of these two lawyers but we do know they’re adults, not children. MOO

And now we know this.

“My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep.”

Rex Heuermann’s children living in ‘waking horror show’ following Gilgo Beach arrest

Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan have found themselves thrust into the ‘developing legal case of the century’ after shock arrest of architect father

www.the-independent.com

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm shocked any sane person would date him let alone marry him.

A guy in his 20s with a career in architecture - might look like a good catch. Whatever the initial interest, it didn't last long. jmo

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Agree. I definitely see him holding court for inquiring minds and acolytes alike, not to mention sifting through the inevitable stacks of love letters from people (sadly, mostly women) who will claim they alone truly understand him.

IMO, he will sustain himself and his reprehensible fantasies for years to come, just as he has for decades, through self-gratifying, masturbatory contemplation of his victims, each and every one of them. Individual flourishes, this murder this way, this long spent on her, that murder another way, different touches for her, ad nauseum. No one who sits before him will walk away feeling clean.

All the years he trolled, being felt, sensed, but remaining unseen, and all the victims he claimed - far more than six, IMO - net out to a tremendous feeling of power, which is its own kind of fetish. He won't surrender that, just adapt in his new environment to keep that feeling. In this way, he reminds me of Ed Kemper.

JMO, and I am devastated for the women and the horrors he visited upon them.

Do you think he felt himself being hunted and eventually becoming a T-1?

 

[CuriousCricket]

wow. I never knew this. Is there no way around this one??

Sorry, this was a question about CODIS and the NY requirement of waiting until after a conviction before DNA can be added. It was several pages back and I thought someone might answer it before I got caught up.

If I remember correctly, early on, it was mentioned that IF other LE jurisdictions had cases they wanted to compare DNA, they could write the NY agency and request access. I can understand NY's ruling as it protects the interests of innocent people only accused of a crime.

It's certainly a hinderance when the accused is someone like RH.

I agree. Is there any additional identifying info related to this T-1 Megan?? I found some of the old 2002 Long Island archived "usasexguide" webpages. I'm sure those who of us who have been researching this case for years will remember how we read that horrible site for clues to LISK's identity. I might try looking at these pages again searching for a "Megan" if anyone thought it would help.

ETA: I just looked at 2 pages... I can't look at any more.

I don't think there's more info. It's just from RH's notes. I had thought that looking maybe through missing women? That would likely catch only women actually named Megan. Only don't missing posters sometimes include AKA info?

 

[Kudzuu]

Letter to Keith Jesperson from Rex Heuermann dated 8/31/23
Transcribed by me. I have kept Heuermanns spelling and punctuation as is.

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Keith,
First off I would like to say thank you for your letters & advise. They have been a help & comfort to me. I do understand what you have said and taken it to heart.

Being only a month & half into this, as you know, I have had a lot to think about. Right now I need to get a few things in order which the lawyers are working on.

You were right about letters - I have gotten a number of them - asking for interviews, to be friends, pen pals, and one guy who sent me three etters asking me to write back to add to his "collection of letters".

You are the only person who I have written back to and plan to write to. I know I have gotten into great detail - I am not sure if my mail is not being read. I did have one officer make a comment to me that he knew you were writing to me.

So it sounds like OSP is not such a bad place to be. - Do you have butter for your bread? How is the day to day food - I will admit the food at SCCF is not much to look forward to each day. Also yard is just walking in circles outside.

I do understand what you have told me. Also that timing is important with this process. - I am working out he timing the next court date is 9/27 - as I understand it that is just a conference court date so I do not expect much to happen. I have not even seen the discovery yet at this point.

I am sorry it took so long to write back to you - I know I should of done it sooner.

The main thing I wanted to say was
Thank you
To you & yours for the letters & what has been done for mine.
Thank you
Rex

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This should not be allowed. In Texas prisoners cannot get send mail to other prisoners.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

I have very peripheral knowledge of gun society on LI, but I know people who are very active in competition shooting out there and have enjoyed going to the range, including Calverton, which had always been known as somewhere you can pretty much shoot whatever you want (meaning types guns, not living things. at least when I was there....) Mill Rd that's mentioned leads into that specific range. if there's anyone else on here that either shoots or knows people who do, start scanning old Facebook posts from shooting clubs or matches. I'm even looking up ones from upstate/greater tristate area/ Massachusetts.

I hope others take you up on that suggestion, because I think there could really be a " there" there. Unfortunately, I can't do it because I would have to do too much catching up on just the basics of that culture in order to try to offer anything of value wrt to this case. What I could possibly do is put the call out to other WSers in other threads who do have knowledge of gunclubs in general. I'm sure they would be happy to offer their thoughts. Would that be helpful ?

 

[jessr927]

It seems like people find it either more likely or less likely that Rex killed Shannon in light of the new evidence (I have not seen anything posted about how it doesn't impact Shannon's case). I never thought she was his victim and this makes me more sure because planning seems to be his obsession. There's more the Oak Beach residents have a responsibility to report (moo) but I do think she succumbed to the cold water.

I wonder if anyone flipped their position based on the new evidence?

I still believe Shannan was murdered, but not by RH. I have no idea who did it but I don't believe she drowned with no pants on.

 

[LetsSolvIt]

Rex H was probably an "incel" in high school. Involuntary celibate. He probably didn't date many girls because of his hulking presence and awkward unfriendly personality. He probably targeted some girls for "pranks", but I'm guessing at that age he had an active fantasy life that involved abusing some of these girls. JMO

He also seems to have [added: maybe] had an acne issue — and still has lots of little red sores on his face. My impression of him is greasy — like he doesn’t bathe. MOO.

 

[Forest_Wood]

And now we know this.

“My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep.”

Rex Heuermann’s children living in ‘waking horror show’ following Gilgo Beach arrest

Victoria Heuermann and Christopher Sheridan have found themselves thrust into the ‘developing legal case of the century’ after shock arrest of architect father

www.the-independent.com

Sorry I’m not sure what your point is? My original post was referring to them being referred to as adults, not children. MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

August 11,2023

'Attorney for Gilgo Beach suspect’s family: There is no 'sex dungeon'​

"A sound-proof room. Everybody reported that. That is not true," Macedonio insisted. "So everybody ran with that story that he had this sex dungeon downstairs in his house, this soundproof room where he was bringing prostitutes and murdering them and burying them on Gilgo Beach. There is no sound-proof room in that house."

Attorney for Gilgo Beach suspect’s family: There is no 'sex dungeon'

There was no “soundproof room" in the basement of suspected Gilgo Beach serial killer Rex Heuermann’s home, his wife’s attorney says. In fact, the house is now such a wreck that he says the family desperately needs help.

www.fox5ny.com

 

[Ursamajr]

This should not be allowed. In Texas prisoners cannot get send mail to other prisoners.

I wondered if Jesperson wrote to an intermediary. Huermann's complementary close makes it sound almost like someone else was involved with the correspondence.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Sorry I’m not sure what your point is? My original post was referring to them being referred to as adults, not children. MOO

I cleared up CS's "health situation" with a quote from his mother Asa because you questioned the lawyers who were trying to get sympathy for Asa/family .

Forest_Wood said:
It’s hard to say. If I recall, it was AEs lawyer who first promoted her son’s health situation, at the same time he was soliciting sympathy and money for her after RH was arrested. We can’t know how capable he may be based on the statements of these two lawyers but we do know they’re adults, not children. MOO


"My children cry themselves to sleep. I mean, they’re not children. They’re grown adults but they’re my children, and my son has developmental disabilities and he cried himself to sleep.”

 

[Teche]

I think, maybe it was too much humidity in the room (RH sweating from every pore, I can imagine, and there were other certain sources also ), so the adhesive strips didn't last long enough, but fell to the floor.

I'm asking myself, if RH raged for 3 weeks and then cleaned everything up, when his family's vacation was coming to an end. What was he telling his family, when he showed a certain degree of exhaustion after a "free time" of some weeks during their Iceland-vacation? That all the stupid clients had annoyed him so much?

The condition of the house looks like it was not a nest and tidy before the arrest and 1st search. How did RH clean up the basement so as not to leave blood droplets and flesh? LE must have used luminol and canines in the days-long searches. Was there a hidden room behind the paneling that had just been removed from the basement?

 

[Alkali13]

I interpreted that language to mean that he recreated with those victims poses he'd seen online and admired.

I think it's the "notably and largely coincide" that struck me, especially given the list of contents of the images. It would make sense if he was viewing things online that piqued his interest, and it's easier than creating the content yourself.