wenwe4
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part of the investigation you found out the defendant was manipuilative in her interaction with men
she was flirtatious with them - he said she used them
using men - someone who is manipiulative
that is correct
you considered and ultimately favored the defendant
I looked @ behavior after the homicide - I attributed it after looking @ behaviors before - not a problem with other resteraunts before . . . unusual abhorrent behavior was a part of it . . after the killing.
the indications are contrary with Casa Ramos different than Purple Plum
you disregard these indications
I considered them
not of value to be of your assessment
factored in her behavior toward men prior to the killing, behavior with both resteraunts, before and after
abuse by TA . . component of manipulation . . . JA exhibit manipulative behavior after she killed him
correct
I am not going to believe that manipulative behavior
no I am not - I am sayig she was manipulative with men afterward
was TA a man
at this period of time - she was manipulative @ Casa ramos the statements were not . . . no manipiulative before TA said so
2 competing views
after the killing
Casa Raos on one side and Purple Plum on the other = I believe what people say @ Casa Ramos
I have other information from Purple Plum that discounted that information - I believe she was manipulative at that time it is situational not that it is a characteristic.
you have information she liked to play the victim
mischaracgterize testimony
I have one friend saying she like to play victim
immediately 5 days after the murder manipulative behavior
yes
expanse of years in between - chose to say that was abhorrent not something characteristic of her . .
I am saying what I hear from one teen friend of hers . . . preponderance of behavior on the one side and one on the other.
numerous collateral sources - preponderance of evidence .. . . more likely than not?
no
preponderance of evidence means I have looked @ all evidence available to me - gone thru it looked @ what appears to be the truth for me makes sense . . . weigh evidence - what I have been presented with is what I have to go on. . .
you are a human lie detector . . .may not be truth to someone else
not charachterize self as human lie detector
Purple plum and casa ramos example . . casa appears to be the truth
not what I am saying . . . purple plum statements could be true - situationally . . .
if true she could be manipuilative toward men on June 13, 2008 - 2 weeks before she could also be manipulative toward men
it doesn't stan to reason
based upon the continuum . . . right after the murder - could be true she was manipulative before the murder
objection
approach
she was flirtatious with them - he said she used them
using men - someone who is manipiulative
that is correct
you considered and ultimately favored the defendant
I looked @ behavior after the homicide - I attributed it after looking @ behaviors before - not a problem with other resteraunts before . . . unusual abhorrent behavior was a part of it . . after the killing.
the indications are contrary with Casa Ramos different than Purple Plum
you disregard these indications
I considered them
not of value to be of your assessment
factored in her behavior toward men prior to the killing, behavior with both resteraunts, before and after
abuse by TA . . component of manipulation . . . JA exhibit manipulative behavior after she killed him
correct
I am not going to believe that manipulative behavior
no I am not - I am sayig she was manipulative with men afterward
was TA a man
at this period of time - she was manipulative @ Casa ramos the statements were not . . . no manipiulative before TA said so
2 competing views
after the killing
Casa Raos on one side and Purple Plum on the other = I believe what people say @ Casa Ramos
I have other information from Purple Plum that discounted that information - I believe she was manipulative at that time it is situational not that it is a characteristic.
you have information she liked to play the victim
mischaracgterize testimony
I have one friend saying she like to play victim
immediately 5 days after the murder manipulative behavior
yes
expanse of years in between - chose to say that was abhorrent not something characteristic of her . .
I am saying what I hear from one teen friend of hers . . . preponderance of behavior on the one side and one on the other.
numerous collateral sources - preponderance of evidence .. . . more likely than not?
no
preponderance of evidence means I have looked @ all evidence available to me - gone thru it looked @ what appears to be the truth for me makes sense . . . weigh evidence - what I have been presented with is what I have to go on. . .
you are a human lie detector . . .may not be truth to someone else
not charachterize self as human lie detector
Purple plum and casa ramos example . . casa appears to be the truth
not what I am saying . . . purple plum statements could be true - situationally . . .
if true she could be manipuilative toward men on June 13, 2008 - 2 weeks before she could also be manipulative toward men
it doesn't stan to reason
based upon the continuum . . . right after the murder - could be true she was manipulative before the murder
objection
approach