GUILTY OF FIRST DEGREE MURDER**verdict watch** 3-5-2012

[Turnadot]

Right, but why would he have lashed out at Gracie? That's not his normal behavior and could be explained as him being wound up because he had just committed a murder and was not in his normal state of mind. He wasn't known for lashing out at strangers like that.

If he were a sociopath I don't think he would have been wound up about committing the murder. Regardless he would have known how stupid it would be to call attention to himself like that and would have only lashed out if he lost his cool. Either way there is no other evidence or testimony that JY is a sociopath, but he has been referred to as one several times so I am giving my alternate point of view.

I don't think Gracie actually saw JY in the first place though. I think she encountered some other idiot who couldn't control his temper.

What have you learned about sociopaths that leads you to that conclusion?

Sociopaths get wound up about many things; they have feelings.

IMO

 

[fifteen89]

Jury is now requesting:

Lunch break @ 12:30pm

• inventory of items in JY luggage (judge said this does not exist)
• pic of JY in cracker barrel
• jeans
• autopsy rpt
• usa today
• initial MBR photos
• CY PJs shirt & pants
• pics of meds (CY room)
• pic of HP imprints w/plastic flap
• big map of va/nc
• hotel 1st floor diagram
• photo of back of explorer showing all luggage

Also interesting that they said 'no morning break unless needed'. Prayers to the jurors and Michelle's family and friends.

 

[Skittles]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livenow?id=8323913

ABC is back up

Requesting to review items; they'll have to locate to make available. Requesting inventory of what was in luggage and picture of JY in Cracker Barrel, the jeans, autopsy report, USA Today, initial master br photos, CY's PJs, pictures of meds from CY's room, picture of HP imprints w/ plastic flap, big map of VA/NC, Hotel 1st floor, photo of back of Explorer showing all luggage...


Lunch at 1230.

A much more thorough list than the prior jury's.

 

[Grammy Jean]

At least it appears this jury is ready to do the work unlike the CA jury who never asked to review even one piece of evidence.

 

[Luna24]

the trial also lasted four months as well.....

I do have to wonder what effect the weekend had on the jurors (re: personal introspection) it always seems like when a jury goes out over a weekend they come in making decisions (I have no solid facts of this.. just observations from other cases I have followed)

BBM
great point nursebeeme.

 

[CGW]

From these requests, sounds like a G lean.

Or it could be some G folks trying to persuade the NG folks on the evidence requested!?!?! I wish I was a fly on that jury wall!

 

[Luna24]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/livenow?id=8323913

ABC is back up

Requesting to review items; they'll have to locate to make available. Requesting inventory of what was in luggage and picture of JY in Cracker Barrel, the jeans, autopsy report, USA Today, initial master br photos, CY's PJs, pictures of meds from CY's room, picture of HP imprints w/ plastic flap, big map of VA/NC, Hotel 1st floor, photo of back of Explorer showing all luggage...


Lunch at 1230.

Like others, I'm liking these requests too.

 

[Boodles]

There IS NO inventory list of all items found in luggage?! Whoa

Yeah, too bad there is not an inventory. :banghead: I hope they can figure out what it is they are trying to determine from other evidence/testimony.

Interesting that the inventory is the first item on their list.

 

[nursebeeme]

From InSession...

Jury has said they'll break for lunch at 12:30 and they want these items

Inventory of what was in the luggage
Pic from CB
See his jeans
Autopsy report
USA Today
MB photos
Cass pj's
Cass room touched area - tylenol
HP imprints
BIG map of VG & NC
Map of HI first floor
Photo of back of Explorer showing what was in it

wow
anyone else on pins and needles?

 

[iucpa]

I think these requests definitely indicate a G lean...

 

[w1df10wr]

A much more thorough list than the prior jury's.

I didn't follow the first JY trial. Was just about to ask if that jury had requested any items. Thank you!

 

[Madeleine74]

What does it all mean?

Other than the jurors are actually discussing things, who the heck knows.

You'd have better success reading tea leaves with a blindfold.

 

[Grammy Jean]

Or it could be some G folks trying to persuade the NG folks on the evidence requested!?!?! I wish I was a fly on that jury wall!

I was in court the day the jury did the PT evidence reviews. Many of the jurors spent time looking at the contents of JY's luggage.

 

[iucpa]

I think these requests definitely indicate a G lean...

On second thought, UNLESS they are leaning NG and just wanted to look at a few things to see if they can convince themselves otherwise?

 

[CGW]

Yeah, too bad there is not an inventory. :banghead: I hope they can figure out what it is they are trying to determine from other evidence/testimony.

If there's no inventory, can they just request the luggage itself and then they can inventory it themselves lease:

 

[iucpa]

I will say this - the couple of times I went to the courthouse this time around, the majority of the jury seemed very attentive. Yes, there were a couple of nodders and people not paying as much attention, but I think this jury is taking its job seriously, and I know I'll be happy with whatever they decide knowing they gave it an honest effort.

 

[Stella5]

Wow... the jury will be in the courtroom to examine all the evidence in front of everyone... Including the defendant. IMO that is just a stupid rule in NC courts! It won't allow the jurors to privately discuss each point of evidence while they are reviewing it. Dumb, dumb, dumb... MOO

 

[jrb0124]

From these requests, sounds like a G lean.

Its tough to read requests like this. Could be they want to see the luggage pics rule something out, rather than in.

 

[iucpa]

I saw someone say the foreperson was a young, white female. Does anyone know which one she is? i.e., where she was sitting in the jury box? (Obviously only for those who were ever in the courtroom).

Just curious.

 

[Grammy Jean]

If there's no inventory, can they just request the luggage itself and then they can inventory it themselves lease:

I would hope so it was there laid out for them to see the Friday they had the PT evidence view.