GUILTY - Sidney Moorer RETRIAL for Kidnapping Heather Elvis, 9 Sept 2019 #3

[jenseib]

They all use their multiple burn piles every single day. Shrug. Duh. Doesn't everyone? EVERY day? Exactly how much trash can one generate to use their burn pile EVERY day?

Someone please stop her.

Wait, don't.

I live in a rural area and have most of my life. It's very common to burn daily, or at least several times a week. I know nothing of the laws where they live, but I just wanted to say I don't find that unusual. Burning cloth rags....they would have to be pretty gross for me to burn and throwing them in wet is bizarre. I'd throw them in a bag if I was junking them and then after drying a few days would I throw them in the burn pile or take them to a dumpster if they were really gross.

 

[Surfside]

This is totally unrelated to anything happening right now, but I was just looking through my folder of stuff from over the years and came across this pregnancy test. I don't know if any of you remember us talking about the Mickey Mouse pregnancy test, but I just chuckled when I saw it, and I have to share.

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Also, for those of you who are leaning toward the body of water/boat theory, here's this little gem of TM confessing during her trial:

 

[Knox]

I think the pros. has to be very careful with this family. They will lie at any turn. So, to challenge to hard and then have another family member corroborate the testimony would be a huge mistake. Right now, AC looks like a liar. NL is smart to leave her there and have faith that the jury will pick up on the stuff she says. To badger her and make her cry might get a fence sitting juror to see the LEO and pros. as mean people who would mistreat the family--helping them to look like victims. Let her words harm her. Let them see her as what they ascribe. The rest of the evidence outweighs her inability to be truthful. If I saw my sister walking around the property with a mirror at the fountain or in the trees, I would definitely ask her what the heck she is doing. I bet most of the jurors would also.

Of course, MOO.

The jury is def going to watch that portion of the video again, bet your booty!!

 

[dixiegirl1035]

I haven't been following this second trial yet. Is there a place which has Archive of the previous days that someone can give me a link to? Thank you in advance.

 

[kaen]

I live in a rural area and have most of my life. It's very common to burn daily, or at least several times a week. I know nothing of the laws where they live, but I just wanted to say I don't find that unusual. Burning cloth rags....they would have to be pretty gross for me to burn and throwing them in wet is bizarre. I'd throw them in a bag if I was junking them and then after drying a few days would I throw them in the burn pile or take them to a dumpster if they were really gross.

Exactly. I wouldn't burn wet items unless I needed to get rid of them fast. Dry items burn and you don't have to attend to them. Remember Lt Cestare testified that SM had to continue to fiddle with them as they appeared to dampen the fire.

Also, this type of deep cleaning is not what I would do so close to Christmas.

 

[lonetraveler]

Didn't the defense say it only has 2 witnesses today? That was two. Now what?

Was it ever determined if Tammy was transported to testify for the State or the Defense? If she had testified.

 

[Delta Dawn]

Just a quick thank you to all who have been so diligent about reporting what was going on today. I could only follow along here at work and as my work day sucked, I'm so glad court day did not. Well, I guess it did...for the defense!

 

[TTF14]

I think the pros. has to be very careful with this family. They will lie at any turn. So, to challenge to hard and then have another family member corroborate the testimony would be a huge mistake. Right now, AC looks like a liar. NL is smart to leave her there and have faith that the jury will pick up on the stuff she says. To badger her and make her cry might get a fence sitting juror to see the LEO and pros. as mean people who would mistreat the family--helping them to look like victims. Let her words harm her. Let them see her as what they ascribe. The rest of the evidence outweighs her inability to be truthful. If I saw my sister walking around the property with a mirror at the fountain or in the trees, I would definitely ask her what the heck she is doing. I bet most of the jurors would also.

Of course, MOO.

BBM.

Yes. Common sense. It's completely illogical to think you wouldn't ask this unless you are a toddler and don't know any better.

 

[bestill]

Missed Ashley's testimony today, where's the best place to find it. Thanks!

 

[lonetraveler]

BOSS!

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Priceless!

 

[kaen]

I can see the defense attorneys calling Margaritaville's management to ask about the offsite system that they gave to Sidney M. to see if they would corroborate that the cameras were deterrent only or recording capable. If not recording capable, I would want them to testify. That would be a great way to help their client.

 

[TTF14]

Was it ever determined if Tammy was transported to testify for the State or the Defense? If she had testified.

There's no way in hell she would testify for the state.

 

[Dylgem22]

Every day.

Wish we had outside photos of the house to look for service garbage bins .. oh but wait, they burn all their trash .. that's right

 

[lonetraveler]

Same! I'm not on the stand and wasn't lying and still had to get a glass of wine to calm down.

Or two.

 

[lonetraveler]

There's no way in hell she would testify for the state.

Well, she could have been brought in as a hostile witness.

 

[Knox]

I can see the defense attorneys calling Margaritaville's management to ask about the offsite system that they gave to Sidney M. to see if they would corroborate that the cameras were deterrent only or recording capable. If not recording capable, I would want them to testify. That would be a great way to help their client.

That might be the last witness the prosecution will call after the defense rests. You know that VERY brief one?

 

[TTF14]

Wish we had outside photos of the house to look for service garbage bins .. oh but wait, they burn all their trash .. that's right

Even if they did burn trash every day, these folks were frugal. Ashley said she wanted to go couponing at midnight on triple coupon day. Why would they burn rags just used to routinely clean a truck with the new "Christmas gift kit?" I mean, they sound like the type that reuse ziploc bags.

 

[Knox]

Even if they did burn trash every day, these folks were frugal. Ashley said she wanted to go couponing at midnight on triple coupon day. Why would they burn rags just used to routinely clean a truck with the new "Christmas gift kit?" I mean, they sound like the type that reuse ziploc bags.

Good point, lol!! After all, they did buy the 88 cent pregnancy test right?

 

[Dylgem22]

Even if they did burn trash every day, these folks were frugal. Ashley said she wanted to go couponing at midnight on triple coupon day. Why would they burn rags just used to routinely clean a truck with the new "Christmas gift kit?" I mean, they sound like the type that reuse ziploc bags.

So true!! Man I wish we knew what item(s) they need so badly to be clipping q-pons at 3am!! Wish there was a way to verify those items did have coupons out at that time ..

 

[lonetraveler]

And then didn't she also say the first "nanny cam" system wasn't purchased by SM, and that she brought it home from work? I think she said it was part of the old system at Margaritaville. Did I get that right?

I'm pretty sure Margaritaville would not be using a Nanny cam.