Hannah Graham: The Search

[ksj3]

If JM is to blame- what an *advertiser censored** for not telling LE where to find her.

Even if he's not, what an *advertiser censored** for running and not telling them where he was. Think of those resources spent alone, resources that could have been spent on finding Hannah.

 

[Concerned Mama]

Focus around Plank Rd. according to this article.

Why do they release this stuff? It's great for us, but potentially not so great for Hannah.

However, this is right in that area, and just S of Anchorage.
Vintage Virginia Apples
2545 Rural Ridge Ln
North Garden, VA 22959

Also very close to Red Hill Elementary, where JLM attended, and not incredibly far from Ponderosa Trail.

 

[Suthrnqt]

I wonder if that name or that DOB/numbers is of any significance.[/QUOTE><modsnip> is his grandmother's last name.

 

[Concerned Mama]

I wonder if that name or that DOB/numbers is of any significance.

Yes, it was discussed earlier that 12/14/1981 is JLM's birth date, exactly 3 years older than the ate he gave the officer. Also, Carr is his grandma's last name.

 

[Evie Ivy Over]

I wonder if hannah's phone could be found somewhat close to Tempo? maybe even between Tempo and where JM's car was parked. Maybe even within 2 miles of where he drove off to from his parking spot.

What if it was tossed down a sewer drain in that area?

 

[marijane]

I dont know if this was mentioned. What about the possibility he did something with her in texas.

 

[HauntsForHope]

Pings pings pings.... Where / when did his phone ping!? Where/when did HG's phone ping last? Cell phone tower map too please... LOL

:couch:

 

[HauntsForHope]

I dont know if this was mentioned. What about the possibility he did something with her in texas.

iirc LE did some investigating and pretty much dismissed it. There were two cars involved. The night she was taken he was driving his sisters car, blue i think. When he fled to Tx he drove his own car, orange. I got a sense that there was evidence of her being in the blue one but not in the orange one. I will look for a link...

 

[HauntsForHope]

Hopefully someone in his circle will talk. There's probably some hangout he goes to that others are aware of. Is there any info about whether or not he has/had a girlfriend?

"Police offer $100,000 reward for information on missing student Hannah Graham as 'kidnapper' Jesse Matthew is extradited to Virginia to face abduction charges"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nia-face-abduction-charges.html#ixzz3EbqUOCgy
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[roseofsharon]

Scroll down for map with details. Also video of JM coaching football hours before H's disappearance. Thanks to ros for link.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tradited-Virginia-face-abduction-charges.html

In the picture with the woman, he looks high on something imo. The cctv didn't capture the plaid in the shirt, however, I wonder if he changed his shirt? It's disgusting the way this man was getting away inappropriate touching of women. He has no boundaries and a huge sense of entitlement. I can almost picture his rage when someone tells him no. It surprises me that no one complained to the bouncers in the bar about this. MOO

 

[roseofsharon]

I wonder if JM has any former girlfriends ... someone who knows him well and knows how he thinks ... where he might dispose of a body? I have only heard men who knew him say something about him on NG. moo

 

[roseofsharon]

I dont know if this was mentioned. What about the possibility he did something with her in texas.

ITA ... this might have been the reason he was staring at the woman on the beach. Maybe, for those few seconds, he thought she had been following him and saw something. moo

 

[Emaa]

iirc LE did some investigating and pretty much dismissed it. There were two cars involved. The night she was taken he was driving his sisters car, blue i think. When he fled to Tx he drove his own car, orange. I got a sense that there was evidence of her being in the blue one but not in the orange one. I will look for a link...

Actually it's the other way around. Orange car was on the night she disappeared, they found him with the blue one.

 

[Lamima]

I thought it was other way around.

 

[Celtsleuth]

There has been talk on these threads about whether this guy has a low IQ or not...I am wondering if he might have put her in a river, lake or ocean....that would make him a little smarter than what his history shows because that would be the most difficult to find her in, initially...I'm not familiar with that area at all so I don't know what water is near there. I think his hightailing it to Texas shows consciousness of guilt. I think she was a victim of opportunity for him to have sex and not having great impulse control, he killed her when she fought back (if she could have) or somehow when he acted out a sadistic choking fantasy or some kind of acted out fantasy. The guy obviously doesn't have too much of a clue as to how he appears to other people and is very socially inept. Maybe he is a serial killer and is responsible for some or all of the other murders and missing women. This will be an interesting case to follow...from all accounts she was a very nice girl that was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Prayers for her family and friends...very sad...and I don't think she is alive..hope they can find her and bring her home. JMO

 

[sophiebelle]

Doesn't JM have roommates? I wonder if they know what time he came home that morning, it could definitely help with the search... If he wasn't unaccounted for for long, he probably put her in a dumpster and they should check landfills. If longer maybe they could calculate a radius. His family lives in Nelson County, I think. Out of the way places down there, well that's hours he would be gone...

I have seen that question posted a couple of times. Nobody has an answer. I think if LE has asked them, they learned nothing or won't tell. I think our info will be limited for now. I wish his mother and gma would go visit, and since they are mothers, could appeal to his sentimental side. Maybe they still believe everything he's said? If his roomies don't want to get involved, they may say they were asleep. JOM

 

[Emaa]

There has been talk on these threads about whether this guy has a low IQ or not...I am wondering if he might have put her in a river, lake or ocean....that would make him a little smarter than what his history shows because that would be the most difficult to find her in, initially...I'm not familiar with that area at all so I don't know what water is near there. I think his hightailing it to Texas shows consciousness of guilt. I think she was a victim of opportunity for him to have sex and not having great impulse control, he killed her when she fought back (if she could have) or somehow when he acted out a sadistic choking fantasy or some kind of acted out fantasy. The guy obviously doesn't have too much of a clue as to how he appears to other people and is very socially inept. Maybe he is a serial killer and is responsible for some or all of the other murders and missing women. This will be an interesting case to follow...from all accounts she was a very nice girl that was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Prayers for her family and friends...very sad...and I don't think she is alive..hope they can find her and bring her home. JMO

Please don't take this personally, because I don't intend it that way at all and I understand what you meant. I'm sure I've used that phrase on occasion myself. But I really don't like it. She had every right to believe she could move safely from point A to point B without being abducted.

 

[cady]

Please don't take this personally, because I don't intend it that way at all and I understand what you meant. I'm sure I've used that phrase on occasion myself. But I really don't like it. She had every right to believe she could move safely from point A to point B without being abducted.

Yes. You have a right to BELIEVE that, but you believe it at your own risk. JMO

 

[Emaa]

JMO Since I do not think that JM pre-planned this event, I think that the likeliest place to dispose of her was a large dumpster. It is possible that she passed out or was comatose and he THOUGHT she had died. It is also possible that there wasn't a sexual assault. But, even if that were so, he claims (through grandma) that she was never in his car....so he isn't about to tell anyone that she indeed was, because he is banking on her never being found, and therefore no beyond a doubt proof of sexual assault. But LE MUST have some tangible proof that she was in his car...........so the abduction charge stands. Wish we knew what LE knows. JMO

We likely won't unless this goes to trial.

I wonder if police not only have evidence she was in the car, but that the car was outside the city since their searches have been in rural areas. It would seem to me if they suspected a dumpster, they'd be searching the landfill. Although rural areas have dumpsters for people to dump their trash.

Edit Albemarle County doesn't provide dumpsters. People have to bring it to the dump or contract with private haulers. Wonder if police have reached out to these haulers to keep an eye out for anything unusual?

 

[dotr]

In the picture with the woman, he looks high on something imo. The cctv didn't capture the plaid in the shirt, however, I wonder if he changed his shirt? It's disgusting the way this man was getting away inappropriate touching of women. He has no boundaries and a huge sense of entitlement. I can almost picture his rage when someone tells him no. It surprises me that no one complained to the bouncers in the bar about this. MOO

Wondered about the clothing as well, in pics where JM is all in white, he looked a lot heavier than he does in other pics.
Thinking he may have been wearing another layer of clothing underneath, or the white top is a jacket. Trying to emulate the doctors he works with?
In HG's twitter feed, not long before going missing, ironically, Hannah commented about people wearing white after Labour Day....

Since, "He has no boundaries and a huge sense of entitlement." ita, maybe he left H at someone else's property?