How will Jaycee heal?

[Delrod]

Stephen, Like you said, it's just speculation and I am backing off of it. As for "reform" I'm not saying that's what I think. Again it was speculating about how Jaycee MIGHT feel. She has said that he hasn't touched her in years and it seems that she trusts him with her children and believes that he hasn't touched them. In the charges against the Garridos the only post 1997 charges are false imprisonment. Somebody who understands that better than me would have to say if that means there aren't any allegations that she hasn't been sexually assaulted since then.

 

[Delrod]

Yes you are right about the woman in Germany. And Jaycee seems to have grown more attached with her captors than she was. The woman in Germany did run away on her own when she thought she had the chance. And yet even she still says that she actually benefitted in some ways from having been "raised" like that

 

[Vegas Bride]

I wonder sometimes how the paparazzi and gawkers are controlled or respectful in some situations but not in others. Our very participation in this kind of forum (and I am including myself in this) can be construed as pretty voyeuristic and prying into all kinds of private details of people's lives in a way that would be very difficult to classify as constructive or positive for the actual victims, really. As much as "we" are here because we care and are horrified by the crimes it's still the case much of the time, that our curiousity and caring can often be what fuels the paparazzi and tabloid rags to go after people like this. But you do see some cases, like Elizabeth Smart for example, where her family and even she sometimes come forward when it is important to them or constructive, but it is pretty tightly controlled. She really held her own when she took Nancy Grace to task on asking about things she did not care to discuss. She's an impressive young woman. But I believe she goes to college and has a pretty normal life, and I for one have not seen paparazzi photos of her and etc. Hopefully she is what she seems, a young lady working through her issues and working for a good life for herself and her family.

I hope that Jaycee and her girls will be left alone and can someday work toward the same. They will never erase their past, nor should they, but hopefully they can get to a good place. There are a few little things they can do that would probably go a long way toward helping their anonymity but I guess it is up to them to choose. They could go brunette and go around in public right now and nobody would know who they were! And maybe go by middle names or something when they are in public. Who knows.

OT, it was reported the other week that Elizabeth is going to be leaving to do her mission for the Mormon Church soon in Paris.

VB

 

[MBK]

Lawyer: Jaycee Dugard's Family Doing 'Remarkably Well'
Jaycee Dugard and Her Mother Want to Help Other Families Whose Children Are Missing
By SARAH NETTER, STEVEN CHENG and LEE FERRAN
Sept. 24, 2009

During an appearance on "The Today" show, Scott said Jaycee has mixed emotions surrounding the arrest of her alleged captors, who she lived with for 18 years. Phillip Garrido fathered her two children.

But Jaycee realizes "some bad and terrible things were done to her," he said.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/lawyer-jaycee-dugards-family-remarkably/story?id=8659761

 

[songline]

I wonder sometimes how the paparazzi and gawkers are controlled or respectful in some situations but not in others. Our very participation in this kind of forum (and I am including myself in this) can be construed as pretty voyeuristic and prying into all kinds of private details of people's lives in a way that would be very difficult to classify as constructive or positive for the actual victims, really. As much as "we" are here because we care and are horrified by the crimes it's still the case much of the time, that our curiousity and caring can often be what fuels the paparazzi and tabloid rags to go after people like this. But you do see some cases, like Elizabeth Smart for example, where her family and even she sometimes come forward when it is important to them or constructive, but it is pretty tightly controlled. She really held her own when she took Nancy Grace to task on asking about things she did not care to discuss. She's an impressive young woman. But I believe she goes to college and has a pretty normal life, and I for one have not seen paparazzi photos of her and etc. Hopefully she is what she seems, a young lady working through her issues and working for a good life for herself and her family.

I hope that Jaycee and her girls will be left alone and can someday work toward the same. They will never erase their past, nor should they, but hopefully they can get to a good place. There are a few little things they can do that would probably go a long way toward helping their anonymity but I guess it is up to them to choose. They could go brunette and go around in public right now and nobody would know who they were! And maybe go by middle names or something when they are in public. Who knows.

WE HERE WILL STOP as soon as there is nothing to write about.
They are keeping themselves privat and we really do not know what is going on; it is less then a month that they are free, within another month or so these threads will be archived too.
Later on when it is close to the trial should there be one, or a movie there will be one thread just the way the Anna Nicole Smith case only has one thread.

Some movie stars do not do the Hollywood scene, and get property in remote places like Patrick Swayze / Paul Newman.
Brangelina and others also have remote locations for their homes, and the paparazzi only bothers them in airports, restaurants, etc...

JC's Mom had to go to a hide away with the girls; She is nowhere where the Paparatzi can find her.
The girls have to totally adjust not only to a new apartment/location but a new life and new family.

The daughters have never been seen NOR do they have SS #, or a B.C. so their anonymity
can happen fast. JC too - we really do not know what she looks like and she can select another
name for public ID. They can all become straubery red, or brown haird.
BUT As a group they would stand out, maybe even be strange in public. For now they must find
comfort in each other.
JCs Mom is known to many and she can not be seen with them or it is a give away.
I think Grandma may have to change her look too. The deprogramming must take place first.

I hope they will get a remote address like a farm outside the city where they can be free, and safe;
A farm with a guest house for staff; Guards, therapists, teachers.
Yes they will have the money for it.

 

[flourish]

Stephen, Like you said, it's just speculation and I am backing off of it. As for "reform" I'm not saying that's what I think. Again it was speculating about how Jaycee MIGHT feel. She has said that he hasn't touched her in years and it seems that she trusts him with her children and believes that he hasn't touched them. In the charges against the Garridos the only post 1997 charges are false imprisonment. Somebody who understands that better than me would have to say if that means there aren't any allegations that she hasn't been sexually assaulted since then.

bbm
UUUuummmmmm......yeah....I am not even sure what to say on that one....trusting someone with your children is what happens in a voluntary situation....which this situation was not....seriously...that statement is just baffling

 

[flourish]

WE HERE WILL STOP as soon as there is nothing to write about.
They are keeping themselves privet and we really do not know what is going on it is less then a month that they are free, within another month or so these threads will be archived too. Later on when it close to the trial should there be one, or a move there will be one thread just the way the Anna Nicole smith case only has one thread.

Some movie stars do not do the Hollywood scene, and get property in remote places like Patrick Swayze / Paul Newman.
Brangelina and others also have remote locations for their homes, and the paparazzi only bothers them in airports, restaurants, etc...



This case has a bit more sensationalism then Elizabet just because she was gone so long and did come home with 2 children.
Elizabet has a rich dad and an uncle in the LE.
So they had a plan from for when she comes home.
Elizabeth has also lived in the real world more then in captivity and the work that had to be done with her was different, and we knew what she looked like.
LE uncle must have done something to keep the papers away. Like a restriction for 500 yards or jail type of thing.:waitasec:
But her Dad came out and gave a few reports to keep everyone satisfied.

For JC - Her Mom closed up her house. She had to go to a hide away with the girls; The girls have to totally adjust not only to a new apartment/location but a new life and new family.

The daughters have never been seen NOR do they have Birth Certificates so their anonymity can happen fast.
JC too - we really do not know what she looks like.
But as a group they would stand out, and for now they must find comfort in each other.
I think perhaps Grandma will be able to go out with one at a time at some point - but the deprogramming must take place first.

Do you mean "PRIVATE" when you type "privet?"

 

[songline]

bbm
UUUuummmmmm......yeah....I am not even sure what to say on that one....trusting someone with your children is what happens in a voluntary situation....which this situation was not....seriously...that statement is just baffling

AS if she had a choice?
I can just hear it
JC to the low life: "the girls are not going with you, you are a perv".:waitasec:

 

[songline]

Do you mean "PRIVATE" when you type "privet?"

So sorry, YES.
Thanks for the correction.

 

[songline]

Yes you are right about the woman in Germany. And Jaycee seems to have grown more attached with her captors than she was. The woman in Germany did run away on her own when she thought she had the chance. And yet even she still says that she actually benefitted in some ways from having been "raised" like that

I never read that she benefited in any way.
I did read that she still selects isolation because it is a comfort zone. I read that she has good times and bad times.

 

[Delrod]

I never read that she benefited in any way.
I did read that she still selects isolation because it is a comfort zone. I read that she has good times and bad times.

I don't claim that she benefited from it.
From what I've read she says that because of it she was not exposed to things like
alcohol and drugs, and people and things that would
have been "bad influences."

 

[kbl8201]

I never read that she benefited in any way.
I did read that she still selects isolation because it is a comfort zone. I read that she has good times and bad times.

people react diffrently to horrific situations. i am shocked that some of these people even survived there ordeals.......i dont know if i would have the mental capacity to do the same

 

[songline]

GUYS - WHOS PHOTO IS ON HERE? scroll down to video
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/24/earlyshow/main5334580.shtml?tag=stack


Jaycee Would Probably Testify, Lawyer Says
CBS) Jaycee Dugard has been in seclusion since her 18-year kidnapping ordeal ended a month ago.

Dugard, 29, has been surrounded by her two daughters, her mother, her sister (who was just one when Jaycee was abducted) and other family members, and has been undergoing psychological counseling.

Very little is known about how she and her family have been coping, and about her nearly two decades in captivity since she was grabbed from a bus stop in broad daylight in South Lake Tahoe, Calif. in 1991, allegedly by Phillip Garrido and his wife, Nancy Garrido.

Both have pleaded not guilty to charges including kidnapping and rape. Authorities say Garrido fathered Jaycee's two daughters, who are now 15 and 11.

The Garridos are accused of keeping Jaycee and her daughters in a backyard maze of tens and sheds all these years, at their Antioch, Calif. home.

Investigators have combed the Garrido home and backyard for signs of two other abducted girls, Michaela Garecht, who was nine when taken in 1988, and Ilene Misheloff, who was 13 when she was grabbed in 1989.

Now, a lawyer hired by Jaycee's family says she would probably testify against the Garridos when the time comes.

"I'm confident in saying that, if this case does proceed to trial, Jaycee will, in all likelihood, be a witness for the prosecution," McGregor Scott told "Early Show" co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez. "She's aware of that, and understands that. That day is a long ways away from right now, so she's got a lot of time to continue with the mending and the healing and the rehabilitation she's going through now."

 

[kbl8201]

GUYS - WHOS PHOTO IS ON HERE? scroll down to video
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/24/earlyshow/main5334580.shtml?tag=stack


Jaycee Would Probably Testify, Lawyer Says
CBS) Jaycee Dugard has been in seclusion since her 18-year kidnapping ordeal ended a month ago.

Dugard, 29, has been surrounded by her two daughters, her mother, her sister (who was just one when Jaycee was abducted) and other family members, and has been undergoing psychological counseling.

Very little is known about how she and her family have been coping, and about her nearly two decades in captivity since she was grabbed from a bus stop in broad daylight in South Lake Tahoe, Calif. in 1991, allegedly by Phillip Garrido and his wife, Nancy Garrido.

Both have pleaded not guilty to charges including kidnapping and rape. Authorities say Garrido fathered Jaycee's two daughters, who are now 15 and 11.

The Garridos are accused of keeping Jaycee and her daughters in a backyard maze of tens and sheds all these years, at their Antioch, Calif. home.

Investigators have combed the Garrido home and backyard for signs of two other abducted girls, Michaela Garecht, who was nine when taken in 1988, and Ilene Misheloff, who was 13 when she was grabbed in 1989.

Now, a lawyer hired by Jaycee's family says she would probably testify against the Garridos when the time comes.

"I'm confident in saying that, if this case does proceed to trial, Jaycee will, in all likelihood, be a witness for the prosecution," McGregor Scott told "Early Show" co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez. "She's aware of that, and understands that. That day is a long ways away from right now, so she's got a lot of time to continue with the mending and the healing and the rehabilitation she's going through now."

i know she will testify if she has to. but that will take a lot of courage from someone who's been so brave already

 

[LinasK]

GUYS - WHOS PHOTO IS ON HERE? scroll down to video
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/24/earlyshow/main5334580.shtml?tag=stack

I watched it. It's old footage of Jaycee when she was a young girl.

 

[joga]

GUYS - WHOS PHOTO IS ON HERE? scroll down to video
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/24/earlyshow/main5334580.shtml?tag=stack


Jaycee Would Probably Testify, Lawyer Says
CBS) Jaycee Dugard has been in seclusion since her 18-year kidnapping ordeal ended a month ago.

Dugard, 29, has been surrounded by her two daughters, her mother, her sister (who was just one when Jaycee was abducted) and other family members, and has been undergoing psychological counseling.

Very little is known about how she and her family have been coping, and about her nearly two decades in captivity since she was grabbed from a bus stop in broad daylight in South Lake Tahoe, Calif. in 1991, allegedly by Phillip Garrido and his wife, Nancy Garrido.

Both have pleaded not guilty to charges including kidnapping and rape. Authorities say Garrido fathered Jaycee's two daughters, who are now 15 and 11.

The Garridos are accused of keeping Jaycee and her daughters in a backyard maze of tens and sheds all these years, at their Antioch, Calif. home.

Investigators have combed the Garrido home and backyard for signs of two other abducted girls, Michaela Garecht, who was nine when taken in 1988, and Ilene Misheloff, who was 13 when she was grabbed in 1989.

Now, a lawyer hired by Jaycee's family says she would probably testify against the Garridos when the time comes.

"I'm confident in saying that, if this case does proceed to trial, Jaycee will, in all likelihood, be a witness for the prosecution," McGregor Scott told "Early Show" co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez. "She's aware of that, and understands that. That day is a long ways away from right now, so she's got a lot of time to continue with the mending and the healing and the rehabilitation she's going through now."

holy hell this guy is in my building...:dance:

 

[songline]

Butterfly is right. She is going to need a ton of love ~ supernaturally! And her family is going to have to meet her as she is now...not what they dreamed she would become.

We need to continue to lift them all up in our prayers!

:rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:

BEAUTIFUL POST.
AMEN

:rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose: :rose:

 

[Leila]

GUYS - WHOS PHOTO IS ON HERE? scroll down to video
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/09/24/earlyshow/main5334580.shtml?tag=stack


Jaycee Would Probably Testify, Lawyer Says
CBS) Jaycee Dugard has been in seclusion since her 18-year kidnapping ordeal ended a month ago.

Dugard, 29, has been surrounded by her two daughters, her mother, her sister (who was just one when Jaycee was abducted) and other family members, and has been undergoing psychological counseling.

Very little is known about how she and her family have been coping, and about her nearly two decades in captivity since she was grabbed from a bus stop in broad daylight in South Lake Tahoe, Calif. in 1991, allegedly by Phillip Garrido and his wife, Nancy Garrido.

Both have pleaded not guilty to charges including kidnapping and rape. Authorities say Garrido fathered Jaycee's two daughters, who are now 15 and 11.

The Garridos are accused of keeping Jaycee and her daughters in a backyard maze of tens and sheds all these years, at their Antioch, Calif. home.

Investigators have combed the Garrido home and backyard for signs of two other abducted girls, Michaela Garecht, who was nine when taken in 1988, and Ilene Misheloff, who was 13 when she was grabbed in 1989.

Now, a lawyer hired by Jaycee's family says she would probably testify against the Garridos when the time comes.

"I'm confident in saying that, if this case does proceed to trial, Jaycee will, in all likelihood, be a witness for the prosecution," McGregor Scott told "Early Show" co-anchor Maggie Rodriguez. "She's aware of that, and understands that. That day is a long ways away from right now, so she's got a lot of time to continue with the mending and the healing and the rehabilitation she's going through now."

Thanks! That was a good interview. I'm sure that Jaycee will testify if it becomes necessary. But, I didn't note that McGregor Scott said, "if this case does proceed to trial." I really wonder if this case will end up with a confession and a plea bargain.

 

[songline]

Thanks! That was a good interview. I'm sure that Jaycee will testify if it becomes necessary. But, I didn't note that McGregor Scott said, "if this case does proceed to trial." I really wonder if this case will end up with a confession and a plea bargain.

Thank God that it is a very long way off. Time is on her side
I think in a year or two from now "If the case goes to court"
at least she will be stronger, clearer, I think she has a great Lawyer.
Sadly enough no matter how far off it is - facing your abuser can be glitch in the recovery, take you back a bit.
I hope she never has to.

She is one amazing girl. Bless her heart.

 

[kbl8201]

Thank God that it is a very long way off. Time is on her side
I think in a year or two from now "If the case goes to court"
at least she will be stronger, clearer, I think she has a great Lawyer.
Sadly enough no matter how far off it is - facing your abuser can be glitch in the recovery, take you back a bit.
I hope she never has to.

She is one amazing girl. Bless her heart.

could be a glitch in her recovery or could give her closure she needs. given how strong jaycee has been thru the years to survive this, i''ll go with the latter
btw there's a prelim hearing oct 29th i think........