IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #17

[Marilynilpa]

Then it must be the SECOND time.

Check the scanner thread, about 10 days ago IIRC.

I am going by what happened yesterday, and the article I linked to. We aren't supposed to discuss the scanner thread here.

 

[palaminodee]

if you have time, check out post #1243 and #1245 "downstairs".

 

[CHERIE.T]

I wonder if the bikes were taken into evidence to the crime lab? Fingerprints, Dna, IDK

I would love confirmation about that.

Wonder why there's been no naming a poi?

 

[Sunlight]

No, I'm sorry but that is incorrect. His phone call to his daughter was at approx. 12:27, and he used that time to determine when he saw the bikes. I have posted the link to that article several times, and will look for it again.

12:20 is irrelevant if the call was made first...just a thought of course. MOO

 

[cindersoot]

I think I saw riders on horses involved in the volunteer search on some pics in an article or something on one of the threads awhile back...I think I did..I think one rider was a man in camo clothing. I noticed, because I love horses myself..I think it was a chestnut horse. MOO

I just has an aha moment when I read your post the second time. :rocker: I get what your saying.

 

[TeenyTaurus]

Lol.

as hard as I try, I just keep screwing up.

Maybe I have ADD.

Adult Doubt Disorder.

Nah, we just suffer from Adult Determined Disorder... so we're a wee bit out of order? I'll eventually fall into place, right? Right??

 

[CHERIE.T]

But why is this person called a "witness?" Witness to the bikes being on the trail? TIA

Yes, a supposed witness to seeing items at the lake that day.

 

[MNDad]

The whole "vehicle to a bike trail" thing also got me wondering something else, days after the girls went missing. Monday, the 16th, in fact. Why take along a bike and RIDE to make a statement? Why not simply DRIVE to the police station and report such there? I am sooo confused.

To subconsciously establish the facade of something you do regularly and instill a vision in LE's collective mindset of you in the clothing and accessories you claimed to have been in a couple days earlier. When this person is spoken of in future conversations, the only image they have of him is in biking gear just as he was when he innocently "witnessed" something.

 

[JaimeInLA]

For those who are concerned about Misty - I believe her hospital admission was nearly two weeks ago, unless there's been a second one.

I don't know if that's reassuring, or I've just made it worse.

No, there was a second hospitalization, this time confirmed by MSM. See p. 1 of this thread for link.

 

[cindersoot]

I would love confirmation about that.

Wonder why there's been no naming a poi?

I think, it's because they don't have much on him, and they are watching him.

 

[SapphireSteel]

No, I'm sorry but that is incorrect. His phone call to his daughter was at approx. 12:27, and he used that time to determine when he saw the bikes. I have posted the link to that article several times, and will look for it again.

Thank you I would appreciate it.

 

[JaimeInLA]

Did you know one can make a viable form of chloroform, which is also used to make freon-refrigerant, which is used in HVAC systems, which... oh, never mind. Relatively simple chemistry.

Omg you just totally gave me chills!

 

[Marilynilpa]

Here's a link re: TG's approx. 12:20 sighting of two bikes:

http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdal...cle_c7394e3c-d6a6-11e1-a4f3-0019bb2963f4.html

TG of Waterloo, "a bicyclist who said he often rides the Evansdale Nature Trail, has previously told The Courier he saw the two kids’ bikes on the trail at about 12:20 p.m., but no sign of the children."

 

[Considering]

I would love confirmation about that.

Wonder why there's been no naming a poi?

Because there is no POI or they don't want the POI to know that he/she is a POI or they don't want people sleuthing the POI and posting what they find on the net for others, including the POI, to read.

 

[SapphireSteel]

No, there was a second hospitalization, this time confirmed by MSM. See p. 1 of this thread for link.

Thank you.

She must be a mess and I'm not surprised at all, I don't know how I'd cope.

One question though...would she be risking breach of probation by drinking? I can't imagine them putting her in jail at this time, but the law is the law...?

 

[SapphireSteel]

Here's a link re: TG's approx. 12:20 sighting of two bikes:

http://wcfcourier.com/news/evansdal...cle_c7394e3c-d6a6-11e1-a4f3-0019bb2963f4.html

TG of Waterloo, "a bicyclist who said he often rides the Evansdale Nature Trail, has previously told The Courier he saw the two kids’ bikes on the trail at about 12:20 p.m., but no sign of the children."

Ok, we're back to ABOUT 12.20.

I still can't see how he could be mistaken re seeing the bikes.

 

[CHERIE.T]

To subconsciously establish the facade of something you do regularly and instill a vision in LE's collective mindset of you in the clothing and accessories you claimed to have been in a couple days earlier. When this person is spoken of in future conversations, the only image they have of him is in biking gear just as he was when he innocently "witnessed" something.

Excellent observation.
I have a couple friends who are avid bikers....they are
In their 50s and ride hundreds of miles at a time.
They don't have a big belly.
They are very fit.

 

[Confusion]

Something just occurred to me (sorry I am still catching up)... I always assumed he used the Casey's restroom on River Forest because he gave himself 7 minutes in his estimate of how long it took him to get there and use the bathroom before making his call. If he used the restroom at the park would it really take him 7 minutes to get from where the bikes were to the restroom and use it before making the call?

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That would depend on what he had to do in the restroom... :giggle:

 

[hollyblue]

:rocker: excellent question

My question was why not just call? Did they not want LE at their home for a follow-up if they chose to?

 

[nikb]

The whole "vehicle to a bike trail" thing also got me wondering something else, days after the girls went missing. Monday, the 16th, in fact. Why take along a bike and RIDE to make a statement? Why not simply DRIVE to the police station and report such there? I am sooo confused.

One thought, maybe he was going on a bike ride anyway since he normally does - maybe mostly on weekdays but not on weekends?? (total guess) - so he was on his Monday ride and decided to report it. Depending on how much publicity there was that first weekend, maybe he didn't even think it was a big deal until he saw all the LE there that Monday? IMO and I'm not even sure it's MO Just trying to think of ideas.