Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #8

[scoodyboo]

I thought it was very cruel to ask this too. The reporters need to consider the emotional turmoil Mollie’s loved ones are going through and ask questions with sensitivity as they are likely struggling to cope with everything.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Mollie has left by her own choice.

The story aired tonight, Tuesday evening, so I mistakenly assumed it was taped after the press conference but it's from Monday. His comment about the nationwide search struck me. The final comment was compelling, but I see your point.

I have no idea what happened to Mollie. There is a perhaps naive desire that she'll just turn up unharmed. Hoping she's safe.

 

[msteach]

Which is not the same as, "We don't know why Mollie is missing."

Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding. Ding. That is the $20 million answer/non-answer right there. Dissect that sentence very carefully. We cannot tell you (nowhere did they say we don't know -- just that we can't tell you) why Mollie is missing.

 

[pamelado2]

Pamelado-

OK, I re-read that article, and this is what it says about their phone conversation:

"Mollie’s father Rob said when he last spoke to his daughter on the phone on (Sunday) July 15, nothing was out of the ordinary."

Nothing about three hours, though.

It's in the video, sorry, I didn't read the article!

 

[cluciano63]

We keep saying there is no evidence she just left...but how on earth would we know? They have revealed nothing and the pleas have been for her to “come home.”

 

[Seattle1]

Pamelado-

OK, I re-read that article, and this is what it says about their phone conversation:

"Mollie’s father Rob said when he last spoke to his daughter on the phone on (Sunday) July 15, nothing was out of the ordinary."

Nothing about three hours, though.

@J.M. Bee - Reference page 1 or the Media Link -maybe Fox News Interview(?).

Rob was asked when the last time he spoke to Mollie was and he responded last Sunday (before she went missing), and said they talked for 3 hours

 

[SuziQ]

People are mad when they think LE isn’t doing enough but also mad when LE lists off everything they’re doing... speaking of damned either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

reading the responses here, has me wondering what the perp is thinking. is it the opposite of what we think? Ha! Does that make sense?

 

[Confusion]

I've been looking for links, but haven't had any luck. I'm starting to think I might just imagine things. There are a couple things I remember reading, and I was hoping someone could tell me if they were actually said or if I should stop looking. TIA to anyone who can help.
The first thing was just the wording of something the sheriff (I think) had said earlier, which was, "No, we don't have any POI we can share with the public." in response to being asked if they had a POI. The second was that searching the pig farms was because of something they read on a SM page, and they were upset with people wasting their time posting rumors. Did anyone else read these things, or am I just losing it?

 

[Msl1966]

Everyone wants their wedding to be memorable and filled with joy. With all the $ being spent as a destination wedding, I can see them saying “let’s wait.”

I kind of think it was just a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. I can't even imagine the scrutiny they would have been under if they went ahead with it, media would go crazy.

And trying to go through a destination wedding and pretend everything was fine when the longterm GF of your brother is missing would be hard.

I hope the hotel and airline was understanding of the extenuating circumstances and refunded everyone.

 

[Snarky]

I believe that they do not know where she is. They have confirmed they have a good timeline and refused to say yes or no about a POI. They have refused to release the timeline because they do not feel it would help to locate Mollie. IMO, that could be because they already have an idea of what happened and who and the general public wouldn't be helpful.

That said, these same theories are brought up in nearly every case and the info as well as lack of info from LE is scrutinized and interpreted. Most of the time the cases go unsolved. It may be true that a desire for her to be found clouds realistic judgment. Hoping they have info and we will understand their method soon.

Unfortunately I totally agree with your theory. They aren't stupid, and I think they already know pretty much what's happened. Prayers that I am totally wrong.

 

[MassGuy]

I am conflicted in my hypothesis now, I feel like the message from LE is that they believe she was taken, but I feel like the message from the family is that she left with someone (dad says come home, it will be okay, mom says just come home, etc). I agree with others whom have said the "getting to know Mollie" comment could elude to her being involved in something she hid from her everyday life (drugs perhaps?). But if that is the case, I still don't understand why the nationwide FBI search with major media coverage, as she is an adult after all, she would not be considered a runaway. I feel like the comment from the brother about joking that the boyfriend should propose to her at his wedding could have been the trigger for her to leave (maybe this was the topic of the 3hr convo with her dad), or if she was taken by some admirer whom felt she was with the wrong guy it could have been the trigger to take her to prevent the possible proposal. LE would not be so tight lipped about the timeline they are confident in if they didn't suspect foul play (as a previous poster said, they are probably trying to protect against a fake alibi). I also felt like the comment in the PC about "who was in Brooklyn that night" was giving away the fact that she either left with someone from out of town or was taken by someone from out of town. This is probably why they are not doing much searching locally.

The massive response by law enforcement is indicative of the fact that they suspect foul play. The role of investigators is to “get to know” the missing. Victimology is crucial in understanding exactly what may have happened, as well as the who and why. This is exactly what detectives do in every missing person’s case, especially ones where foul play is suspected. I read nothing more into that comment than exactly that. As for the family’s “come home” statement, I don’t see that as necessarily indicative of a theory that she left on her own volition, especially since all indications are that this is not the case.

 

[MesquiteO21]

I'm sorry, these pages just move so fast but does anyone have a transcript of the press conference? Can't seem to find a replay of it. Or can someone fill me in on the context of the "getting to know Mollie" thing?

 

[msteach]

I hope you are right! I kind of got the feeling they held this for a reason, maybe to see how someone would react?
I remember a pregnant woman went missing from MD last year and they knew her partner did it but they held a PC and even had him talk, all along knowing he was the one who did it. They wanted him to think they didn't suspect him. Maybe something similar?

That's one of the cases that I keep going back to on this one, too. They knew and they even had her parents in on it -- the poor mom had to sit there next to him while she and her husband knew that he had lured their daughter to her death, but LE needed them to play along.

I don't see this presser as saying that they don't know anything, at all. Quite the opposite. I see it as saying -- we're out there. We have dozens of officers working on this. Every. Single. Day. I think that they DO have a POI and they are just trying to flush that person out. To allow that person to let his/her guard down because that person may have a different take on this presser than I did -- and may have heard in their mind that they don't know anything -- I've gotten away with this.

Also, the fact that they have said they will have another presser on Friday. Again, probably with no new information revealed to the public. Just remember how heavily involved the FBI is in this one...and has been from almost the get go. Anyway, that's my two cents...and my hope...that they are just watching and waiting.

 

[liz b.]

I'm curious if anyone changed their minds after the press conference about what they think happened to Mollie. Did you add any possibilities to your list? Strike out an idea? Become more convinced of your top idea?

No, I have believed from early on that M. was the victim of a crime, and that she was abducted. I really wondered, when I heard it at the onset of the investigation, about LE using heat-seeking equipment in and around the cornfields, trying to find her....such a daunting task, when the fields seem to stretch on forever. Wishing for closure for M.'s family, BF and her many friends.

 

[lemmon714]

Mollie's Twitter - so full of retweets. This is a woman who listens closely.

Mollie, please come home.

Mollie Tibbetts on Twitter

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo but what indications do WE have of foul play? I have seen cases where lots of LE searched for young women who did leave on their own...Ivy, the woman from Ohio who left hubby and baby for man she met at 7/11, and some who turned out to be suicide victims. All I am saying is we just don’t know from what we are allowed access to.

 

[geevee]

I'm just wondering, simply, if anyone changed their minds after the press conference. (No need to elaborate if it's against TOS.)

I did.

jmo

No, it just confirmed what I'd already been pondering.

 

[pamelado2]

Pamelado-

OK, I re-read that article, and this is what it says about their phone conversation:

"Mollie’s father Rob said when he last spoke to his daughter on the phone on (Sunday) July 15, nothing was out of the ordinary."

Nothing about three hours, though.

Oh good gravy! So sorry, I thought it was the video embedded in that article, it's the video you see with her dad wearing white earbuds.

 

[monster12]

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[MassGuy]

Jmo but what indications do WE have of foul play? I have seen cases where lots of LE searched for young women who did leave on their own...Ivy, the woman from Ohio who left hubby and baby for man she met at 7/11, and some who turned out to be suicide victims. All I am saying is we just don’t know from what we are allowed access to.

Calling in the FBI, dedicating tremendous resources, the intense media outreach, the fact that by all accounts, she didn’t live a “high risk lifestyle,” the fact that there have been zero sightings of her since she disappeared, despite the intense media coverage, the fact that she didn’t have a car, all leads to a far more likely scenario that she didn’t leave willingly.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Someone wanted to go on the wedding trip and possibly did something to Mollie. Just a theory for now.