Found Deceased IA - Mollie Tibbetts, 20, Poweshiek County, 19 Jul 2018 #9

[tigertales]

FYI I just ran a check of her name in the Interpol missing persons database and Mollie is not in there.

 

[minazoe]

I am very curious as to if any veterans here suspect a random abduction? And if so, why? Tia.

I'm torn Marga,

random live abduction
or
Murdered in the home and removed like Laci P , by a known assailant
or
live abduction by a known assailant and taken to an unknown location
or
run away


the timeline is so important here.

but you have a lovely young woman all alone in a house and she disappears so completely.

the glasses left out reminds me of Summer McStay, definitely feels like something sudden happens.

could her glasses have been removed by someone who knows her?

I think with the all the timeline mystery we may have possible suspects we don't know yet.

so I cant answer yet.

it felt more like a random when she was out for a jog..but that doesn't mean it isnt.

MOO

 

[newmember]

Agree with you on the logic but a few things stand out to me in this case:

- If that happened and she let dogs out of basement when she got back from the run, you would think they'd immediately pick up the scent of a strange person in the home and go to them or at least be excited/bark/etc. This would alert MT that something is wrong

- This also wouldn't give the intruder the element of surprise and even if MT walked around to investigate, she'd either have time to send some kind of alert message to someone

- Let's say the intruder grabs her by surprise and tells her to put the dogs in the basement again. That is going to take some time and I would think she'd struggle or at least try to fight them off; evidence of which would been available inside the home to LE

It's definitely a plausible theory but I don't think it fits in this case. Intruder would have to be in home too long and would need everything to go right for that to work. I think it's a much stronger possibility that MT left voluntarily because she knew whoever it was or knew who it was and they turned out to have sinister motives she was unaware of.

definitely see your points. what if the game changer is the dogs knew the intruder? if mollie was abducted or had an unwanted visitor and her abductor/visitor isnt random to her, the dogs very well may know this intruder/visitor as well.

 

[LarryLujack]

Few things that have stood out to me:

1) When looking at a map she was very close to a major highway and truck stop
2) They say she went for a run from 7:30-7:45. A 15 minute run? Seems awfully short to me.
3) The fitbit in particular seems strange to me. I can understand a perp turning off the phone but they would first have to be aware that she had a fitbit and two, figure out how to turn it off. It isnt easy and there are websites with directions on how to turn them off from people who had no clue.

Here is one entry I found on turning off a fitbit:

Unfortunately, turning the Fitbits off, is not very easy. This is good for making sure you don't accidentally turn it off, but makes it a burden when you really want to. Turning your Fitbit off depends on which Fitbit you have.

To turn the Fitbit One off, you need to plug the charging cable into both the Fitbit and your computer. Then you must hold down the button on the One for 12 seconds. Even when the battery icon disappears after 5 seconds continue to hold the button down. Then remove the charging cable from both devices. The Fitbit is now off. To turn it back on, just press and hold the button for a few seconds.

 

[MassGuy]

FYI I just ran a check of her name in the Interpol missing persons database and Mollie is not in there.

That’s not surprising. She likely didn’t have her passport on her and the circumstances don’t indicate that she is out of the country.

 

[yurena]

I picked up the same thing Bits777. Tone & vocabulary from Mr Kevin Winker, non-verbal communication from Mr Randy ... I apologize I can't recall his surname (the FBI agent) above all in two instances during the presser, and her father's pleas. These three aspects have made me believe she is still alive -or they think she is- and the press conference yesterday was more than a presser, it was a "dialogue" of sorts with those involved in her disappearance.

Her father's pleas- the way her bf and brothers and mother speak of her- at the PC the tone did not seem to me to be one of searching for a body but rather directed towards someone who has Mollie - I cannot fully explain but I in no way believe that she is no longer here

 

[gregjrichards]

I have a bad feeling about this....

Boyfriend says missing college student probably didn’t lock doors

This is not good at all. I hope law enforcement tested the dogs mouths for human dna.

 

[WideOpen]

I have heard very little about Mollie's cell phone. I don't do social media but others here have said that they are aware Mollie has an iPhone. Today we also have heard on FOX that the BF Mr. Jacks called her phone repeatedly in the early days. I'm just throwing out new news, and hoping to make some sense of the lack facts released by LE. I underlined the MSM quotes.


Mollie Tibbetts' boyfriend, brothers and father urge witnesses to 'come forward' in exclusive interviews

Jack said that early on in the search for Tibbetts, he kept calling her missing phone, hoping anyone would pick up.

"I did for like the first week and a half. Not more recently. I was just trying to see literally if anybody would pick up. And then, yeah, straight to voicemail," he said.

So what does this mean? That for the first week and a half her phone was still active somehow?




Mollie Tibbetts, University of Iowa student, missing: A timeline of events


Aug. 1
Tibbetts' father, Robert, urges the public to come forward with any information regarding his missing daughter in an interview with Fox News Channel.

“The bottom line is somebody knows something," Robert says, adding Brooklyn is a small city and “you can’t do anything there without someone seeing it.”

Roberts also reveals Tibbetts' phone has not yet been located, and she has not been responsive to messages.

JMO

 

[KaaBoom]

Exactly my thoughts. The only time the agent showed any type of personality was when he discussed food.

Good point.

 

[Gussified]

Few things that have stood out to me:

1) When looking at a map she was very close to a major highway and truck stop
2) They say she went for a run from 7:30-7:45. A 15 minute run? Seems awfully short to me.
3) The fitbit in particular seems strange to me. I can understand a perp turning off the phone but they would first have to be aware that she had a fitbit and two, figure out how to turn it off. It isnt easy and there are websites with directions on how to turn them off from people who had no clue.

Here is one entry I found on turning off a fitbit:

Unfortunately, turning the Fitbits off, is not very easy. This is good for making sure you don't accidentally turn it off, but makes it a burden when you really want to. Turning your Fitbit off depends on which Fitbit you have.

To turn the Fitbit One off, you need to plug the charging cable into both the Fitbit and your computer. Then you must hold down the button on the One for 12 seconds. Even when the battery icon disappears after 5 seconds continue to hold the button down. Then remove the charging cable from both devices. The Fitbit is now off. To turn it back on, just press and hold the button for a few seconds.

Don’t know about newer fitbits, but I had the Fitbit Alta, and it wouldn’t transmit data anywhere without the phone. It collected it on the Fitbit, then transferred it to the phone via Bluetooth, then the phone sent the data to the cloud. The Fitbit couldn’t talk directly to the cloud, so you wouldn’t need to turn off the Fitbit, just the phone.

 

[newmember]

First time poster here. I haven't read every word of all 9 threads yet, but I've read enough to throw this theory out there. If it's already been discussed, forgive me because I know from other message boards how annoying that can be.

Let me circle back to the mystery of the dogs. Why were those dogs in the basement if Mollie was home? How can this be reconciled with the info that the dogs get free rein of the house if Mollie is home? Let's play a what if? game. What if at about 9:30 that night the dogs start barking at a window and maybe even growling? Mollie is confused because she doesn't see anything unusual when she looks out the window. Maybe she's thinking they were barking at a squirrel. She tries to get them to stop barking, but they just won't have it. Maybe she's thinking "oh come on, I don't need to deal with this right now, it's getting late and I'm trying to do my homework". So she puts the "misbehaving" dogs in the basement so she can get some peace and quiet and get back to doing her homework. The whole time this is happening, she's completely unaware that there IS someone lurking right outside the house. She misinterpreted the dogs alerting on the intruder as them misbehaving or getting wound up over a wild animal, not knowing that they're trying to protect her.

this is a really, really good theory. since we know the dogs were kept in the basement when nobody was home, i kept thinking an intruder came right as Mollie was leaving/ got home (or was already there) so she just had just put them in/hadnt had a moment to let them out. or i think an intruder staged that, knowing the dogs were normally kpet here.

buttt this is a v good option too....could definitely happen. anyone who owns a dog - particularly two who can get worked up together -know that sometimes you are having this frustrated/hilarious feeling when they are trying to save you from thunder or a squirrel. how sad if this is the case.

 

[KaaBoom]

It would be very easy to track and maybe they have tracked it but if she were able to exit an airport without being stopped, the trail would get colder.

If that was the case, wouldn't they have reported it, so they could hopefully get some leads from the public in those areas?

 

[MassGuy]

I picked up the same thing Bits777. Tone & vocabulary from Mr Kevin Winker, non-verbal communication from Mr Randy ... I apologize I can't recall his surname (the FBI agent) above all in two instances during the presser, and her father's pleas. These three aspects have made me believe she is still alive -or they think she is- and the press conference yesterday was more than a presser, it was a "dialogue" of sorts with those involved in her disappearance.

This is standard behavior, you assume the victim is alive, until you know otherwise. Preservation of life is the most important role of LE. From what we know about cases like this, as each day goes by, her being found alive decreases. That doesn’t change the public posture of law enforcement, until they have evidence that indicates that she is in fact dead.

 

[jkloc420]

I meant more the times when the same article gets posted multiple times in succession, just the same link again and again. But ok, if others like that then I’ll just scroll on by.

lol

 

[beth272]

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[K.jill]

The farm searches were done because tbe fitbit pinged off a cell towe neayby, correct?
But we dont know what time it pinged. I wonder if she wore it to work...she probably did not wear it to bed..?
I am trying to come up with a theory of when she went missing.
Late at night or early am.

 

[Bits777]

I picked up the same thing Bits777. Tone & vocabulary from Mr Kevin Winker, non-verbal communication from Mr Randy ... I apologize I can't recall his surname (the FBI agent) above all in two instances during the presser, and her father's pleas. These three aspects have made me believe she is still alive -or they think she is- and the press conference yesterday was more than a presser, it was a "dialogue" of sorts with those involved in her disappearance.

Thank you sooo much!! You put into words what I was unable to!!!

 

[borndem]

Fitbit is a wrist-watch type thing, isn't it? Don't people sleep with it to analyze their sleep cycles and other vitals.

Yes -- it will measure the hours you sleep per night. They are close-fitting to your wrist, they are often plain-colored, and they have small bands. Mine is gray-colored and very lightweight.They have to be charged every 3--5 days or so. You remove the little monitor from the fitbit and put it into a charger. Some fancy fitbits include a watch.

Plain to

fancy.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fit...e18zcAhWPrVkKHT44AlUQsxgIqQI&biw=1258&bih=714

 

[Seattle1]

For all who believe Mollie is alive, the reward for her "safe return" is now $30,000
A call out to any snitch LE has been asking, waiting for?
Come home Mollie!

Reward for finding Mollie Tibbetts safe jumps to $30K

 

[MargeGunderson]

The farm searches were done because tbe fitbit pinged off a cell towe neayby, correct?
But we dont know what time it pinged. I wonder if she wore it to work...she probably did not wear it to bed..?
I am trying to come up with a theory of when she went missing.
Late at night or early am.

I don't know if we know what pings or tips lead to the farm searches but most people wear their fit bits 24 hours a day. I believe it's even been confirmed by family that Mollie is one of those people.