ID - 4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 66

[Sillybilly]

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[eloquence]

I've been thinking about this new phone, and new number registered in PA. What would be the reason to get a new phone with a new number registered at his parents home. This might seem strange, but consider this: what if one or both his parents were strict or controlling? I've applied this thought to the drive back to PA. Maybe dad was in control of that as well. I realize these are strange thoughts. But, sometimes the craziest things bring new insight. I do apologize upfront if I've crossed a line. Please feel free to remove my post.

I am a few years younger than BK, but I would venture to say the majority of people between my and his age are on their parents' phone plan for years after college (some reimburse, some don't). IMO, his parents kicked him off the family phone plan and he just registered his same phone number (or a new one) to an account in his name.

It's a huge hassle to move all of this stuff (credit cards, phone bill, drivers license, etc etc etc) to temporary addresses like student housing. Many people just keep their parents' address on the non-essential items until they are in a more permanent house.

 

[Zella]

6: MM's boyfriend. I've wondered why it's never been said why he and Maddie weren't together that night.

Since K had come in to show M her car and would be moving out of the area permanently soon, it wouldn't surprise me if they were making it a girl's night and specifically hanging out together, so M's SO had other plans to let them spend that time together without a third wheel. MOO

 

[Palinsmom]

I was thinking that maybe he was on his parents family plan and decided to get his own separate account. My son is away in NY attending RIT but he still uses our home address as his and his phone also was obtained here. BK probably had plans to return to PA after completing school.

Just as I tried to post this from thread #65 :-( it closed.

Replying to question about possible reason BK got a new phone in PA June 23 2022

 

[r3d-ros3]

I was thinking that maybe he was on his parents family plan and decided to get his own separate account. My son is away in NY attending RIT but he still uses our home address as his and his phone also was obtained here. BK probably had plans to return to PA after completing school.

Just as I tried to post this from thread #65 :-( it closed.

Replying to question about possible reason BK got a new phone in PA June 23 2022

I think this is right. We speculated quite a bit about the new phone a thread or two back, but ultimately, I think the new account (and the fact that it was linked to his permanent / home address in PA) was just BK deciding to get his own account in advance of the move, as you say.

I still think it's a useful reference point in understanding when exactly BK might have moved to Pullman, but I'm sure that exact info will come out eventually. We also know now that he had a hair appointment in Pullman / Moscow on July 8th, therefore placing him in the area several weeks before his cell phone data first linked him to 1122 King road.

 

[gliving]

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What was BK doing over on the 700 block of Indian Hills Drive at 3:26 a.m? It looks like a residential neighborhood.

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Exactly!!!

He leaves his house at 2:44 then ends up somewhere over by indian hills drive until 3:26 when he starts driving over. What is over by Indian Hills Drive?

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The stuff that keeps me up at night.

Copied from the last thread. In checking my notes, I notice that on Dec 12th, Chief Fry was still asking for any info on the occupant, or occupants of the Hyundai, referring to them as a plural. There was lots of discussion about his word choices at the time. Not sure it means anything but, there it is. 0:26 at the video.

 

[joyelle]

I don't believe InsideLooking is BK. I looked at all the older posts on that account before it was deleted and I saw several that referenced Boston, and also they posted a photo on their street and the cars had Massachusetts plates.

Poppa Rodger, my gut tells me no but who knows.

 

[DoctorStrand]

Going back to comments in the previous thread, assuming BK had seen everyone's SM, IMO I don't see how he'd be surprised by anyone's presence or sleeping arrangements. What I want to know is, if he came to target 1, 2, or 4 of the six housemates, how'd he know who slept in which bedrooms?

Were curtains open during his alleged recon? Did their SM posts reveal this much detail (the house still seems a little confusing to me)? Or, did he visit there at some point? If this was a targeted vs random crime, it seems like this is a valid question.

 

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[layer]

Or perhaps he saw the door dash delivery and had to wait for them to leave? Just a thought.

Whatever is going on there, and I have no idea what it is, it's more than just waiting for the DoorDash guy to leave. This is what the PCA says:

His initial three passes by 1122 King Road began at 3:29, long before the 4:00 DoorDash delivery. His fourth pass began when he:

• Entered the area at 4:04
• Proceeded east on King Road, past 1122
• Stopped and turned around at 500 Queen Road #52 (those long apartment buildings)
• Drove back, stopped in front of 1122
• Tried unsuccessfully to park or turn around there
• Proceeded back westbound to the corner intersection
• Did a three point turn
• Drove back eastbound toward 1122
• Next seen leaving the area at a high rate of speed at 4:20

This is not only driving like a crazy person, it compresses the timeline to a mind-boggling degree. Between 4:04 and 4:20 he did all that crazy driving - driving past, stopping, turning around, driving back, stopping, trying to park, trying to turn around, aborting, driving to the end of the street, three point turning, driving back, finding somewhere to park, going inside, murdering four people, going back to his car, and driving away. All in 16 minutes or less.

And he couldn't have made himself more conspicuous if he tried.