ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 47

[Gardenista]

I tried to find the Ruiz angle in the Entin filming but couldn't. Maybe I missed it or BK got out of the LE car twice

Was Entin the only reporter there?

 

[MikeHammer911]

It's going to be hard for the prosecutor. He has no scratches on his face which would be normal during a fight.

 

[NyxNY]

Those eyes...

Link for snapshot: Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger spotted for first time since arrest

 

[zoomom2]

Just a thought that familial matches can also be found in Codis, with some analysis.

No, Codis only has YOU after you have been convicted of a crime. Plus it is a different, more rudimentary dna test. Many less markers.

 

[Which_pancake]

I tried to find the Ruiz angle in the Entin filming but couldn't. Maybe I missed it or BK got out of the LE car twice

I assume the photo was taken by a different camera than the recording

 

[EBW321]

I’m going to say this regarding intelligence, we all can be experts if we’re singly center ourselves on that subject. Intelligent people are more rounded individuals. In the sense of being able to manage all facets of life. He may be an “expert” who purports to be intelligent• Big difference in my opinion.

I could not agree more.

 

[tysonm266]

All MOO-

I can’t help but to keep wondering what the motive here was.

I’ve thought about this a great deal over the last week.

Was he just born a brutal murderer or did he do it just to see if he could after getting caught up and obsessed with murderers and killing through his research and decide he wanted to kill others from this? Was it mental illness triggered? Was it obsession based on envy? Did childhood and years of bullying play a part to knock him over the edge?

I’m interested to hear what others think motive is.

Me personally, after hearing more about him over the last week…. I’m curious if these brutal senseless murders were research and career based.

I know it sounds crazy but hear me out.

As we all know he went to Desales for undergrad and one of his teachers was famed author and expert Katherine Ramsland.

We know from interviews with friends he seems to have struggled to fit in and was bullied often and struggled socially.

He was proud of his intelligence.

Proud of his research and career plans. Took this very seriously.

What if he studied what launched Dr. Ramsland career and success. Was envious of her success and wanted to be just like her. She is respected in both academia and in the public for her expertise in criminology and knowledge of the mind of murderers and serial killers. Has worked first hand with some of the worlds most famous killers and researched and written about them.

Again, hear me out. MOO.

What if motive for BK is fast track fame and respect from peers, criminology academia and the world for his research and help in investigating the high profile brutal murder of 4 young college students.

What if he did this to become the expert on the case? No one could put the pieces together better than the man who committed the mirders.

No one could frame someone better than the person who committed the murders.

No one benefits from knowledge and expertise of these types of murders than a criminology PhD students who is striving to achieve the level of respect and admiration as his former professor. After years of bullying and lack of confidence.

Committing these murders and eventually working himself into the research of them could fast track his career goals. Help him achieve the respect and admiration he so badly desires.

Maybe after committing the murders he realized he forgot some important factors with his mistakes which led to his ultimate capture. But also made it impossible for him to insert himself in the case and research it to become the local case criminologist expert….

I know it sounds far fetched… but when trying to consider a reason for motive that could benefit him in any way… (leaving out the possibility he did it purely because he lacks a conscience and had a desire to kill for no reason, which is still highly possible)…

But something about him… tells me he did this for a reason.

Most murders do not start off with a quadruple homicide. Mass murderers wanting recognition yes.

So why wouldn’t he start off with just one person? If indeed he did it with just a desire to kill based off his obsession turned desire for murder?

For me there has to be something to the fact he started off with such a large scale brutal murder. (My feelings will change significantly if we learn this wasn’t his first time killing someone) but for now… with only knowledge of these being his first time killing… I cannot help to wonder why? Why so many people at once?

It will be interesting to find out what that reason was.

Please share your thoughts. Am I overthinking it, reaching too hard?

Assuming this is his first go at this, yes, but we don't know that yet.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Exposed, in the rain to baying journalists. Coatless.
I was expecting high security which would have eliminated the mob of journos.

It looks like he was chained, chained, shackled, and chained. I'm sorry. I've been wanting to say that for years.

Anyway. My point.

I tried to count his steps and caught roughly 20. Shackled, maybe 40 feet? They were moving right along for about 10 seconds.

I'm a wimpy girl and don't wear a coat unless it's 32 degrees or less. I get uncomfortably hot in a coat.

I'm glad we got to see a little perp walk.

JMO

 

[RatFace]

Just a thought that familial matches can also be found in Codis, with some analysis.

There was an interview of an ex-FBI agent with Bill Hemmer and Dana Perino on the last thread where the agent said he thought BK's DNA was "reverse engineered" on a database and that led to the identification of BK's father. [This was not necessarily fact, it was unclear where he got this info from.] I had heard previously the father was in the military. Would military be on Codis? Maybe that is how they made a relatively quick identification?

 

[Gardenista]

Those eyes...

Link for snapshot: Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger spotted for first time since arrest

There's a full length photo in this story

 

[cbeagle]

weird. I can't line it up with this

In the second second, when the video is showing 0:02/0:27

 

[NyxNY]

Debunked.

Yes, debunked as I posted. I was just answering the OP question of males and females getting housed together.

 

[MrsWatson]

What makes u think he would only date supermodels ? I haven’t found anything to do with his sexuality or romantic relationships.

As my post said, he thinks he should be with a supermodel. Also, it is MOO.

 

[kittythehare]

What do you mean?

They took the side glance and called it a look in his eyes, it is anything but.

 

[CSIDreamer]

Anyone think they moved the time for his hearing?

I wonder if it's to have time to meet with his temporary attorney, review paperwork, have lunch, etc. Plus, I think moving him at an unexpected time is a safety feature maybe. While the media was camped out, there might not be as many onlookers that early. But I dunno.

All JMO

 

[cottonweaver]

I assume the photo was taken by a different camera than the recording

yes different media companies

Newsnation & Fox. I was having difficulty finding the position of Ruiz to get that shot but another member thinks it's at 0.02

 

[kittythehare]

It's going to be hard for the prosecutor. He has no scratches on his face which would be normal during a fight.

6 weeks later?

 

[NuttMegg]

All MOO-

I can’t help but to keep wondering what the motive here was.

I’ve thought about this a great deal over the last week.

Was he just born a brutal murderer or did he do it just to see if he could after getting caught up and obsessed with murderers and killing through his research and decide he wanted to kill others from this? Was it mental illness triggered? Was it obsession based on envy? Did childhood and years of bullying play a part to knock him over the edge?

I’m interested to hear what others think motive is.

Me personally, after hearing more about him over the last week…. I’m curious if these brutal senseless murders were research and career based.

I know it sounds crazy but hear me out.

As we all know he went to Desales for undergrad and one of his teachers was famed author and expert Katherine Ramsland.

We know from interviews with friends he seems to have struggled to fit in and was bullied often and struggled socially.

He was proud of his intelligence.

Proud of his research and career plans. Took this very seriously.

What if he studied what launched Dr. Ramsland career and success. Was envious of her success and wanted to be just like her. She is respected in both academia and in the public for her expertise in criminology and knowledge of the mind of murderers and serial killers. Has worked first hand with some of the worlds most famous killers and researched and written about them.

Again, hear me out. MOO.

What if motive for BK is fast track fame and respect from peers, criminology academia and the world for his research and help in investigating the high profile brutal murder of 4 young college students.

What if he did this to become the expert on the case? No one could put the pieces together better than the man who committed the mirders.

No one could frame someone better than the person who committed the murders.

No one benefits from knowledge and expertise of these types of murders than a criminology PhD students who is striving to achieve the level of respect and admiration as his former professor. After years of bullying and lack of confidence.

Committing these murders and eventually working himself into the research of them could fast track his career goals. Help him achieve the respect and admiration he so badly desires.

Maybe after committing the murders he realized he forgot some important factors with his mistakes which led to his ultimate capture. But also made it impossible for him to insert himself in the case and research it to become the local case criminologist expert….

I know it sounds far fetched… but when trying to consider a reason for motive that could benefit him in any way… (leaving out the possibility he did it purely because he lacks a conscience and had a desire to kill for no reason, which is still highly possible)…

But something about him… tells me he did this for a reason.

Most murders do not start off with a quadruple homicide. Mass murderers wanting recognition yes.

So why wouldn’t he start off with just one person? If indeed he did it with just a desire to kill based off his obsession turned desire for murder?

For me there has to be something to the fact he started off with such a large scale brutal murder. (My feelings will change significantly if we learn this wasn’t his first time killing someone) but for now… with only knowledge of these being his first time killing… I cannot help to wonder why? Why so many people at once?

It will be interesting to find out what that reason was.

Please share your thoughts. Am I overthinking it, reaching too hard?

He was reportedly very large in high school, and tall. JMO, but the bigger kids aren't normally the ones getting bullied. It's just a quirk of mine, I know, I just hate to see a "he was bullied" theme taking form . According to the brewery in his area he was bullying girls, that word wasn't used, but he was acting inappropriately towards women and the owner told him to cut it out if he wanted to come there again. He chose to never go there again, instead of correcting his behavior. Also in that video I posted here yesterday, the law student claims that half of the class that BCK TA'd complained about unfair grading, and many complained about nasty notes he would write on their papers. That is bullying, imo. Picking on students who can't fight back for fear of reprisal against them.

The class professor had the TA BCK and the class openly discuss the students' gripes.

Then, after the confrontations in class, and apparently after murders BCK basically quit grading papers instead giving everyone 100, with no scathing notes attached. Is that the course a mature PhD student would be expected to take, ie giving everyone 100's, or is that a tit for tat snit fit response.

Maybe someone from his background is claiming bullying occurred, I haven't seen those reports. From what I've seen, he is the bully, in the brewery and in his academic setting.

Imo

 

[CSIDreamer]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1610317963781083138

He looks like a deer caught in the headlights to me.

Also, bulletproof vest clearly visible.

He has some biceps on him. That sleeve is pulled pretty snug, IMO.

All JMO

 

[SteveP]

It's going to be hard for the prosecutor. He has no scratches on his face which would be normal during a fight.

First, despite a comment from SG that there was a "helluva battle on the second floor" (paraphrased), we do not know what that means, if it is even true. Defensive wounds on a victim does not mean that they put up a fight. And secondly, if he was scratched on his face, that would have occurred seven weeks ago. He would have most likely been completely healed from that well before now. JMO