ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 10

[debirlfan]

The second photo makes me wonder if the Good Vibes LED sign was on when the murders took place (apologies if this has been discussed, trying to keep up!). It also makes me wonder if any other decorative lights were left on in the house, I know when I was younger and living with roommates, we usually left fairy lights/beer signs on at night. That would definitely help visibility if a stranger were walking through the house.

I've been thinking the same thing. I think most have been assuming that the house was dark and quiet. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Did anyone sleep with a tv or radio on? Were any lights left on?

 

[bitethehand]

This case confuses me. I have read repeatedly that the killer was unsophisticated, messy, etc…… yet there seems to be zero clues about who the killer actually is. I don’t get it. If they were so messy and careless, why is there no evidence leading to them?

yea.. it is clear that was wishful thinking. I think they have confused a grisly crime scene with a messy, disorganized one.

 

[SMK777]

Police update:
Summary

We don't know anything.

Exactly.

 

[nightowl2728]

3D scans?

I wondered about that too. Probably standard procedure but like what would it show?

 

[cuecard]

I hope I am way off and wrong but I can see this unfortuntely rumbling on for a while yet.

 

[Blue_Painting]

Chief Fry has said that tips have helped them get a better picture of the roommates with each other, and a few other things. But each other stuck out to me.

Good point.

 

[EncyclopediaBrownJr]

Interesting comment early on about "what you don't see" in "a photo or video" could be as important as what is visible

Yeah, nobody drove out of that area. Somebody was on foot.MOO.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Didn't they say they would provide new information? Now that its moved on to University people, doubt we'll get anything else. I don't think I heard anything "new" other than stats on amount of "evidence" gathered

We did. They gave evidence amt detail and said male on phone w/ Maddie and Kaylee is not a suspect.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

I like to see emotion in a presser. Tyler Palmer w/ City of Moscow just showed that.

 

[L.laricina]

This case confuses me. I have read repeatedly that the killer was unsophisticated, messy, etc…… yet there seems to be zero clues about who the killer actually is. I don’t get it. If they were so messy and careless, why is there no evidence leading to them?

It was said in the last press conference but no real context was given. I believe the words used were to the effect of "...left a mess of evidence [behind]..." Since then the punditry has gone on with stories and expert opinions emphasizing a "sloppy" killer.

 

[whitelilac]

When, IF, this is solved....I think the identity of the killer is going to come out of left field.

Meanwhile the killer is watching this PC and gloating.

 

[Balthazar]

I think a vehicle was involved at some point, probably parked up on a nearby street.
My thinking is the perp has long left Idaho and probably gone over the border to Washington State.

Or Canada.

 

[GemmaNut]

This case confuses me. I have read repeatedly that the killer was unsophisticated, messy, etc…… yet there seems to be zero clues about who the killer actually is. I don’t get it. If they were so messy and careless, why is there no evidence leading to them?

Maybe because the perp is someone who legitimately would have been in the house previously? So only a very specific type of forensic evidence would be any good? In that scenario, DNA being present would not be enough?

They must have a lot of innocent DNA to rule out, it being a student house, multiple occupiers, parties, visitors, tradesmen, cleaners….

 

[ilovewings]

Just thinking: I have seen cases where law enforcement will put out false information to try and draw out a killer. For example they may state they have information leading to a potential suspect and that they are getting closer to identifying a suspect. I have seen cases, though those were older cases where the police would enlist a newspaper reporter to put false information geared to drawing out the killer- letting the killer think they are closer to identifying that suspect than they are. When law enforcement comes out like they are now and indicating basically they are clueless, I think it gives the killer a whole lot of confidence.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Argonaut -

What is police presence going to look like after break?

Chief Fry - very heavy, ISP, officers, and troopers will be in the area.

2. Any possibility of release even in transcript form?
Chief Fry, not at this time. Part of the investigation.

 

[Curious Me]

How many parties did they have back at the house? Could it be a neighbour who was annoyed by the noise? Were there any complaints previously

"Heartbreaking videos emerge of Idaho murder victims dancing and joking in party house days before..."​

Final videos show Idaho students in house where they died

The videos were filmed inside their shared home in Moscow, where a killer stabbed three of the five roommates in the home to death and also killed one of the girls' boyfriends on November 13.

www.dailymail.co.uk

"Party house: In other clips shared online by the girls before their deaths, their house is filled with other students." ​

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Stalker-

We have not been able to corroborate but we are not finished looking.

 

[GGbankster]

Since last night, I begun checking MPD website for information updates.

Who is NOT believed to be involved?

• Two surviving roommates,
• Male in the Grub Truck surveillance video,
• Private party driver who took Kaylee and Madison home on November 13th, or
• None of the individuals at the residence when 911 was called.

Who made the 911 phone call?

On the morning of November 13th, the surviving roommates summoned friends to the residence because they believed one of the second-floor victims had passed out and was not waking up. At 11:58 a.m., a 911 call requested aid for an unconscious person. The call originated from inside the residence on one of the surviving roommates’ cell phones. Multiple people spoke with the 911 dispatcher before a Moscow Police Department officer arrived at the location. Officers entered the residence and found the four victims on the second and third floors.


What happened to the dog?

On the night of the incident, officers located a dog at the residence. The dog was unharmed and turned over to Animal Services and later released to a responsible party.

Cited:

King Road Homicides | Moscow, ID

www.ci.moscow.id.us

 

[Crosscntrymom]

Welp this is discouraging. They don’t seem to have made much progress.

 

[Boodles]

yea.. it is clear that was wishful thinking. I think they have confused a grisly crime scene with a messy, disorganized one.

Well the FBI BAU is involved, so their advice should help local LE understand the circumstances.