i can't believe they don't have any footprints...
Maybe they do.
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i can't believe they don't have any footprints...
Where are you seeing that?I'm re-reading the quote here from the Moscow PD site.
"...the suspect(s) specifically looked at this residence..."
This is why I think all of the victims were targeted. They may not have been targets until he actually entered their rooms and found them there, but I think he planned to kill anyone in that house he came across.Page 41 of the FBI manual on crime prevention disagrees:
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Making Prevention a Reality: Identifying, Assessing, and Managing the Threat of Targeted Attacks | Federal Bureau of Investigation
This report, a practical guide on assessing and managing the threat of targeted violence, contains concrete strategies to help communities prevent these types of incidents.www.fbi.gov
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Where are you seeing that?
Thank you so kindly for the information. Very informative!(Hypo) PreTrial Release of Victims' Wound Pix. Impede Fair Trial?
Pasting this post by @Janitor101 from previous thread.
@Janitor101 Yes, Hypothetically. In a pre-trial motion, Def atty could claim that, but I doubt it would fly.
Hypo: MSM or soc media publishes a pic or pix (plural) of vic's wounds pre-trial. Then an arrest.
One. Def. makes pre-trial motion --- MSM showed vic wound pic, blah blah blah, violates right to fair trial, so judge must dismiss charges.
Prosecutor argues that if same/similar pic would/will be admitted into evd. at trial, MSM/soc media's publication does not violate def's right to a fair trial, IOW jury will see it at trial, so no violation of def's right to fair trial. Judge: Def's motion denied.
Two. Def makes motion for a change of venue to move trial to a diff judicial district, where (presumably) the pix & other crime info had not been widely circulated to the public/jury pool.
Imo, by itself, the pic argument w no further bases to strike charges or to move trial, doubtful. Why?
In jury selection process (regardless of trial location is Moscow or elsewhere), both prosecution & defense have opportunity to question potential jury panel members (veniremen), to see what crime info they have seen/heard. And judge asks if the info would prevent them from using only evidence presented at trial to make decision. If they can't put previous info aside, then person may be struck for cause. So those who are impossibly biased by the pre-trial info are not part of the jury,which ends up being composed of unbiased ppl.
imo jmo moo
We don’t know if the motive was revenge. The suspect may have killed just for the sake of killing. Some murderers are excited by the act itself.I keep wondering though...could the revenge be against someone else? Someone who cares about them? In movies you always have bad guys threatening to hurt loved ones. Maybe the "revenge" was against the surviving roommates or family of the victims? Twists it on its head a bit....like do the parents have any enemies that would kill their kids as revenge?
But then again it could still be a random guy or a group of guys. I always circle back to how little we really know.
MOO
Thanks @hopewell That was a good article. This part stood out to me:Page 41 of the FBI manual on crime prevention disagrees:
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Making Prevention a Reality: Identifying, Assessing, and Managing the Threat of Targeted Attacks | Federal Bureau of Investigation
This report, a practical guide on assessing and managing the threat of targeted violence, contains concrete strategies to help communities prevent these types of incidents.www.fbi.gov
View attachment 387013
Oh! The clarification of the clarification. Wasn't that basically them walking back the prosecutor's comments? It's been a couple weeks so I can't remember. I would go back to look but it didn't make sense even then.In the tab called "Is The Public In Danger". It's in reference to a quote from the county prosecutor.King Road Homicides | Moscow, ID
www.ci.moscow.id.us
I agree 100% with every bit of this! As a father that lost a daughter at a very young age, people that have never been through that have no idea of the soul ripping pain you go through and I pray that no one has to experience that. I only had my daughter for a short time and her death was the worst time of my life. It is something you never get over, you learn to live with it. It never gets better, the pain never really goes away, but I cannot begin to imagine the amount of pain these families are going through after having their children for 20 years and having them taken in such a senseless brutal way. So let him mourn his daughter any way he wants. Let him fight for her. Because that's what fathers do.I hope you never lose a child. There is no “counseling”, no solace, no reprieve. The grief is all encompassing and it takes your legs out from under you. The world is turned upside down, and nothing makes sense or matters except getting answers. You somehow believe that those answers will bring you peace, so you go balls to the wall to get them. The sad truth is that even getting those answers will never be enough. The pain will still be there, the fog that surrounds you won’t lift, and the fact that life continues and the world is still spinning seems, at best, to be sacrilege.
Please…let that father wail and scream and beat his chest. Let him name call and stir emotions. Let him, while he is remembering holding his daughter’s hand, while he is remembering her first steps, while he recalling dropping her off at college for the first time, let him grieve. He has earned that. He deserves that. Every parent who has ever had to look into the lifeless eyes of their dead child deserves that. Begrudging him that right is not anyone’s right. If the worst he does in his darkest hours is name call, LE is going to need to suck it up. That was his daughter.
~A Grieving Mom
I thought that was actually brave of them, even if they didn’t read the letters themselves. They have to know all of the things being said about them on the internet and likely knew that many people would find a way to twist their words and say even worse things about them. The fact that still wanted to honor their friends at the expense of themselves was lovely.None, but they did have a couple of letters read at the beautiful memorial they had at X's church.![]()
I saw that little bit last night. It’s hard to say if it was just kids running or something else.
What do you guys think of this?