Uncle Sonny
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This is like watching an episode of criminal minds. Remember that TV show
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Just google latah county jail roster, it should be the first thing up. I did this early on and posted the name of the only inmate arrested that morning, and my post was deleted. Mea culpa. Can't sleuth people who aren't POI. But there isn't much to see there right now. Once someone is arrested, it should be a busy site.Are there any Idaho locals on this thread? Would an arrestee be booked into the Latah County jail?
They are actually starting it again on Paramount Plus with some of the same people.This is like watching an episode of criminal minds. Remember that TV show
Pretty much my scenario as well, which I posted last night.. somewhere. Anyhow, certainly not the majority opinion, everyone seems to want to believe that Kaylee was the main target.My current theory is that, after returning home, the four victims were together for a time in the common area when the Killer stopped by. They let him in thtough the sliders. He was well inown to them…a boyfriend, ex-boyfriend, frat brother, co-worker. A nasty argument ensued…loud enough for the survivors to be aware, but not clear enough to discern the problem. This makes them important witnesses,
My guess is that, although the killer’s ‘issue’ is with one of the victims… the four victims were all on the same ‘side’ of this argument…and the Killer therefore became enraged at all four of them. They tell him to leave and he does, through the sliders again.
Now they go to their respective rooms. I do think the girls might have been sharing a room, because Kaylee might have already moved her stuff out and was just up for the weekend. After this confrontation, the girls try to call J the Ex.…either to tell him about the fight, get his advice, or to smooth things over if he was the one they were arguing with. My guess is he has a rock solid alibi from the affectionate way the sister refers to him. Anyway…as we know, the girls had no luck with those calls.
The Killer…infuriated goes home, gets the knife, and lets himself back in through the sliders. Due to the excitement of the confrontation, no one remembers to lock it again. He kills the 4 who he is still raging at…has no interest in the un-involved roommates downstairs. This coincides with the “targeted” remark by LE and why they felt initially that no one else was at risk. In other words, this was not a stranger thrill killing.
Those surviving roommates sleep in. A friend comes by…through their lower door. One of them goes upstairs, sees something, and they all panic and the visitor uses the first phone they grab. They are outside the house when LE comes.
I think since perp used a knife they would look carefully at cast-off, as if perp cut himself, his blood would be cast off, too. Also, light switch, doorknob, things he would have touched. If there are any round droplets, it could be drips from his own wounds, if any. There will be so much DNA to test, however, my opinion is it'll take awhile to get all results back.This is true but with such a high volume of blood from the victims, finding perp blood could be a crapshoot.
So it is confirmed that the two surviving women were on the first floor? That makes it even more weird as to why the killer decided to ignore them. This looks more and more like a targeted killing by someone who knew the victims to me.
Perhaps they already have cctv for the 1-3AM. I think the call for the 3-6a cctv is looking for escape routes to track down discarded evidence.That chain of events did certainly look like a very plausible one but the key issue for me is the police and LE have not asked for any CCTV or information from the time period 1.45-3. Why?
Th are focusing and making public appeals for what happened between 3-6.
The fight and perpetrator returning to kill all happening after 3 AM is more unlikely imho. One because then we have to assume that their desperate attempts to contact J between 2.30-3 were related to something totally unrelated (possible) but then more far fetched to me is that there is no evidence from the sister or LE that anyone was contacted after 3 AM. Which you would think it there was a major fight or incident surely at least one of the 4 would have texted or called someone they knew to highlight the drama.
So it’s a vicious circle. Hard to see it all unfolding after 3 AM being certainly the two girls didn’t contact anyone after that. But the only other time it could have occurred is between 1.45-3 and if the police had suspicions on that then surely they would also be making public appeals for any cctv, car sightings, anything suspicious etc… in that timeframe.
Other option is something similar to what you describe happened but for whatever reason the individual was already armed with the hunting knife when it happened. But then there is a difficulty there that they were killed in their sleep (at least some) which doesn’t suggest a fight and murder occurred at the same time on the evening.
YesIs the press conference at 3pm pacific time?
I don’t think we are exactly sure it is blood.How did the blood flow on outside walls? Strange.
just moo. I think the target was one or both of the 2 girls who had bedrooms on the 3rd floor. I think the person knew whose bedroom they wanted to go to. I'm thinking the target was the girl who was there for the weekend. They went into that bedroom and found both girls were sleeping in it so both were killed. Then on their way back downstairs they ran into E and then X and so as not to leave any witnesses they were stabbed too. All of the sudden they had just killed 4 people when it was intended to be only 1. They got the heck out of there before they ran into anyone else.
Whatever bedroom they were found in that was the intended target
They were unanswered phone calls, according to her sister. As to the other questions, I think it'sOk, another confusing thing to me:
Were there "calls", or "texts" to J??
If calls, were there VMs left. If not why are people saying that calls were about a dog, or to please call....???
How would anyone know why K or M were trying to contact J?
I agree 100% with everything you said here.And that’s why I also wonder about the perp being totally intoxicated. Again, not all killers commit these crimes under the influence, but I really wonder about PCP or meth-induced psychosis, severe alcohol influence, etc. But who knows. Maybe not. Plenty of mass killers are 100 percent sober when they do things like this.
Lots of maybes. As I said before, imo everything is on the table from stranger to known and everything in between. I am not confident or even close to confident on any theory yet. Still collecting data.
3 PM PSTIs the press conference at 3pm pacific time?
Replying to my own post.Because he wasn’t answering Kaylee.
My guess is the two girls were intoxicated. The calls start and he doesn’t answer. Maddie, being Kaylee’s BFF, and attached at the hip, would be known to J.
Maddie says, Let me try. Maybe he’ll answer me and so it goes.
ETA to add: MOO
One of Kaylee’s sisters revealed in an interview that Kaylee and Maddie collectively called J ten times between 2:26am and 2:52am. In a different interview on Fox, host asked Kaylee’s parents about these calls. Answer was not comprehensive but included Kaylee’s dad saying she said “We have a dog together” in the context of why he needed to respond to her, and included her mom saying Kaylee asked him to come over. Dad described this as one of Kaylee’s last messages and his wording sounded to me like he had probably heard it himself (though I don’t know for sure) because he emphasized certain words as if recalling her phrasing and indicated when something she said was at the end of a particular message. That last part is JMO. Not impossible he could have been referring to a text message and/or the info was relayed to him rather than hearing a message himself.Ok, another confusing thing to me:
Were there "calls", or "texts" to J??
If calls, were there VMs left. If not why are people saying that calls were about a dog, or to please call....???
How would anyone know why K or M were trying to contact J?