ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 9

[chuckyinvestigates]

Did some sleuthing and at least one of the bedrooms on the first level had a thumbturn lock. Reasonable to assume the other bedrooms might have too, so very possible the killer could have locked it this way then closed the doors.

This seems like the answer which unfortunately points in the direction of professional and methodical planned murder.

 

[otto]

can anyone provide a layout of the moscow idaho house interior ?

 

[Balthazar]

I read in a previous post in this thread that LE hasn’t been able to confirm where the perp(s) entered or exited the home. Maybe these details haven’t been released. I can’t fathom how much blood would have been in this house from this crime. How are there not footprints or hand prints of someone leaving this house? I can’t imagine being the two surviving house mates and waking up to see this scene.
As far as the perp, could be anyone from the property manager of the home to a complete stranger. Hope answers come sooner than later for these families. Four lives taken way too soon.

Look at the photo in post 293. The photo shows that LE is gathering evidence around that door. There are evidence markers. Something they think may be evidence is there and they may now know the location of entrance and exit but have not announced it to the public.

 

[Celt1997]

This doesn't make sense to me. I would expect the bedrooms to be carpeted. Would not the carpet soak up most, if not all, of the blood? I would expect it would absorb enough of it that it wouldn't run to the exterior the way it appears to have.

The sill plate would have to be in absolute shambles for that much to come out, as well.

 

[kbckcern22]

Idaho police's expansion of crime scene could possibly mean attempt to uncover new evidence, official says | Fox News

Idaho police have yet to identify suspects or make an arrest in college students' slayings

www.foxnews.com

Found the random blue chair I was thinking of when LE expanded the crime scene… 25 second mark. this chair is almost on the outside of the fencing but still seems like part of the crime scene. It’s almost as if someone would sit behind the house and watch? Just a thought!

 

[citizen_sleuth]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595152357045981184

 

[Miss Jennifer]

I would like to know exactly how they know that it is unrelated. Or how they can say that the Marion County, Oregon stabbings are unrelated. Or that the attack was "targeted." For the Moscow PD to make the kind of statements they are making, they must know a lot more than they are saying, or they are just babbling Mayberry-style. Oregon wife stabbed 19 times by intruder who killed her husband

I agree. Perhaps, we, " Contact Latah County Sheriff’s Office for further details" as they suggested.

 

[Nancywho]

This doesn't make sense to me. I would expect the bedrooms to be carpeted. Would not the carpet soak up most, if not all, of the blood? I would expect it would absorb enough of it that it wouldn't run to the exterior the way it appears to have.

Pictures from the inside of the house from the girls' social media etc. show wooden floors, so I think the bedrooms were likely all the same in that respect.

 

[positive]

Yes

https://imgur.com/zhnlekA

lol Hope you dont see my yard. I jave a chair like that for a smoke lol.

 

[Curiosa20]

I'm a little confused by the amount of time spent speculating on the blood/not blood dripping outside. What's the relevance?

It’s the stark horror that lead to endless speculation. It may have been settled with the Coroner’s statement last night that in fact it was likely blood from a bedroom.

 

[haynat21]

Hi everyone, I was just thinking about the 911 call and the report of the unconscious person trying to make sense of it all! It came to me that maybe the two surviving girls didn’t even know Ethan had stayed over if they had arrived home and went to bed before E and X were home? Could they have tried to wake X by shouting on her, calling her and when no answer they try calling ethan or calling ethans friends to see if the couple had stayed there? My head just can’t make sense of it?

 

[dgfred]

Want to thank otto once again for that great post of the house and layout. Double Like

 

[Curiosa20]

Hi, new member here.

Just wanted to add my two cents that it seems like they had a lot of fairy lights on the walls in different rooms of the house which I would imagine would make the house more visible inside. Someone mentioned earlier in the thread that someone unfamiliar with the house would probably be stumbling in the dark but with all the fairy lights (presuming they were left on overnight) it might not have been as difficult to get around the house quietly. JMO.

Hi and Welcome-
That’s a very good point.

 

[Dotta]

A former FBI agent said a hunting knife was a relic Nowadays? Seriously?
Idaho is a outdoorsy state, hunting and fishing are part of the culture, like Texas. I’m thinking they are out of touch or haven’t spent much time in the outdoors.
Ask around to young men who live in the country, and camp, fish, hunt, it is very common for them to carry some kind of hunting knife. It is needed for many things if you hike/ backpack camping in the woods.
Check online for Bass Pro, Dick’s Outdoors, Amazon, Academy- all of them sell these knives.

Umm
Don't kill the messenger - me!
I know nothing about knives and hunting

Type of knife used in Idaho college murders will be key clue for police, says former FBI special agent

Former FBI special agent Jonathan Gilliam said the KaBar knife that was used to kill all four students could help point investigators in the right direction.

www.foxnews.com

 

[sds71]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595157082759892992

 

[Notthisshipsister]

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I thought it was said it was possible a couple of them may have been attacked in bed and one was seen 'unconscious'. Was that person in bed too? Or has that all been updated? Y'all do post quickly. Haha

I'm confused as to why everyone (starting apparently with the coroner, as I read on these threads) says that the victims were asleep. How is it possible to know that they were asleep or not? They were in bedrooms, but they could have been awake doing any number of things. Also-- any one of them may have seen the killer(s) come into their room but, especially if they had been drinking, their responses may have been delayed.

 

[positive]

A former FBI agent said a hunting knife was a relic Nowadays? Seriously?
Idaho is a outdoorsy state, hunting and fishing are part of the culture, like Texas. I’m thinking they are out of touch or haven’t spent much time in the outdoors.
Ask around to young men who live in the country, and camp, fish, hunt, it is very common for them to carry some kind of hunting knife. It is needed for many things if you hike/ backpack camping in the woods.
Check online for Bass Pro, Dick’s Outdoors, Amazon, Academy- all of them sell these knives.

IMHO these are just talking heads looking for views or clicks. The fact is that a combat style knife is both a useful tool and a common knife.
The more the talking heads spout ridiculous theories the more ad revenue they get.

 

[Parsnip]

Trying to square some data points, here, and could use your help, WSs. @otto , you had a great diagram of the interior of the house. Is there a portion of X’s bedroom that could be construed as a “hallway”? I’m thinking of a narrow opening by the door to the room before it opens up into the full bedroom.

I recall also seeing a ladder in some early photos of the exterior of the house. Does anyone else remember this?

 

[MTW2011]

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I'm confused as to why everyone (starting apparently with the coroner, as I read on these threads) says that the victims were asleep. How is it possible to know that they were asleep or not? They were in bedrooms, but they could have been awake doing any number of things. Also-- any one of them may have seen the killer(s) come into their room but, especially if they had been drinking, their responses may have been delayed.

The nature of any defensive wounds, their location of their bodies may be just two of the possibly several indicators used to make this determination.

 

[natsound]

And now hearing friend's where called and showed at the house contaminating the crime scene with footprint's will be a huge problem...

Did police release that info? Friends came over to the house after the murders?