ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow *Arrests* #72

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cottonweaver said:
Brenda Dye & Idaho law ( also see budgets)

'officials say investigators were not required by state law to perform an autopsy after Tammy Daybell’s death.'

if she'd been murdered in Springville, Utah, this would not have been allowed




'Sgt. Spencer Cannon with the Utah County Sheriff’s Office told KSL under Utah law, a case like Tammy Daybell’s would have been referred to the state medical examiner’s office.



www.eastidahonews.com

Tammy Daybell investigation: Idaho law allowed her burial without an autopsy - East Idaho News

SALEM (KSL TV) — As investigations continue at Chad Daybell’s Salem property, officials say investigators were not required by state law to perform an autopsy after Tammy Daybell’s death. Not only were the remains of Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow buried on the property, but Tammy Daybell allegedly...
www.eastidahonews.com www.eastidahonews.com

'County coroners serve four-year term elected positions and are only required to attend a coroner’s school and complete 24 hours of additional training every two years, according to Idaho state statute.

In rural communities like Fremont County, this is a part-time job — and their resources are limited.

For example, Fremont County listed a budget of just over $37,000 including the coroner’s salary.

Neighboring Madison County listed about $20,000 for their budget.

In comparison, Ada County, where Boise is located, has a budget of just over $3 million.'
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I find this so shocking.
 
10 minutes ago, Chad told the previous officer that Tammy didn't go to doctors as she didn't trust them.
Now he's telling Brenda Dye:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1652001925267849216

I trust that when it comes to Chad's trial, that Tammy's medical records will be available. Not sure why the Coroner did not consult the med records herself to verify this. ( Even in this county, she must have those legal powers)
 
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BUF said:
But more red foam came out
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correct but I mean that my mind is blown that a Coroner in this kind of circumstance is wiping-away what could be evidence
( eg if you're an EMT/paramedic etc and this is a living person whose life you want to save, then removing sputum for medical reason is very different to Coroner's legal responsibilities )
 
meanmaryjean said:
Chad likely wanted to make it look as though she collapsed getting up? But what I want to know is how long did he lay in bed next to her dead body while coming up with his story?
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Well if this is correct, about 4 -5 hours. Creepy!!

Dye estimated the time of death for Tammy was between 12:30-2 a.m. based on the rigor mortis and lividity in her back.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1652002880499650560


hmmmm…Cathy tweeting a different time…

Dye estimated Tammy's time of death between 2:30 - 4am due to rigor, etc..
 
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cottonweaver said:
correct but I mean that my mind is blown that a Coroner in this kind of circumstance is wiping-away what could be evidence
( eg if you're an EMT/paramedic etc and this is a living person whose life you want to save, then removing sputum for medical reason is very different to Coroner's legal responsibilities )
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the coroner course in las vegas was only a week long?
 
Suzanne Freeman's interview with HTC Lauren Mathias, where SF claims that Julie Rowe had ' groomed' Emma in various ways, became very close to her & convinced her she too had special powers. Chad also blogged about this. Also in same interview, Lauren plays clip of interview with Julie Rowe. JR called Emma and spoke to her for 6 hrs after Tammy's death.

Pinch of salt & all that but... here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0gHGVIyvd0

eta - around 59 mins mark for that segment
 
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cottonweaver said:
Suzanne Freeman's interview with HTC Lauren Mathias, where SF claims that Julie Rowe had ' groomed' Emma in various ways, became very close to her & convinced her she too had special powers. Chad also blogged about this. Also in same interview, Lauren plays clip of interview with Julie Rowe. JR called Emma and spoke to her for 6 hrs after Tammy's death.

Pinch of salt & all that but... here's the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0gHGVIyvd0

eta - around 59 mins mark for that segment
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Apparently Emma told JR in that conversation that she was afraid that Chad would marry again.
 
Lori Vallow’s uncle: Killings were act of ‘pure evil’ | CUOMO

The uncle believes she's guilty and that she and Chad were equally responsible for the deaths (he references Adam, saying: "This was a perfect storm of lust and greed, and yes, some mental illness and evil"). Alex wasn't mentioned in this clip.

 
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even though Alex is waiting in that parking lot that night, does anybody feel it's more likely that he did this, rather than Chad?
( My instinct says Chad did it but with Alex there for back-up at Lori's insistence in case Chad faltered and thought he couldn't do it at the last moment. Lori had been very angry about Alex mis-firing ten days previously. Who knows?)
https://twitter.com/x/status/1650890076052926468


note that Dye gives ToDeath as follows 12.30 - 2am. ( No idea how Brenda Dye Coroner is qualified to give a ToD, like a pathologist, but anyway...)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1652002880499650560
 
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cottonweaver said:
Looking forward to Garth testifying now that Chad told Brenda that both Chad & Garth saw Tammy throwing-up, as in Nate's tweet ( Am assuming Chad lied to Brenda and that he was trying to create a false witness to throw any suspicion)
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Possibly true she threw up... from too many opiates.

JMO based on information so far. I'm looking forward to the autopsy report to see if she has injuries from fighting a pillow or a plastic bag.

The only way to prevent injuring her would be to medicate her beyond fighting effectively.

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I find it interesting that first Chad denied traditional medicine. Then she suddenly had had opiates she took for a sprained wrist. That's more like post-op medication.

It has been confirmed she was prescribed that opiate. I wonder how recently it was filled. More than that, I wonder why Chad didn't mention it earlier. It's hardly homeopathic. If she were anti medicine she'd use ice or splints as much as possible and stretch the medicine.

MOO
 
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