Everybody labeled dark had a potential to become a zombie and be harmed eventually, especially if they were in the way of their mission and/or their death could be profited from.
Tammy's ME report says she was asphyxiated. I think we can accept that.That is, accepting the ME report.
We could have accepted Tammy Daybells ME report too......
There is no chance Alex died from a natural event. IMO.
Yet again an ambiguous term that still does not tell the why.
That is what is getting tangled up here in technicality.
ME reports are signed off on the opinion of 1 person.
It is a travesty and I will keep harping on about it.
moo
I agree! But I think if you read second comforter and similar books- you will find that they claim they are supported in apostasy by the scriptures still considered true by the church. And people I trust, like John D of Mormon stories, back that up.
I do think he was very dissatisfied in his marriage. Tammy seems never to have been part of the cult - whether because she wasn't interested or because he kept her out...perhaps we'll find out at his trial.
He only had to forge her signature I suspect. ***side eye***look
That is, accepting the ME report.
We could have accepted Tammy Daybells ME report too......
There is no chance Alex died from a natural event. IMO.
Yet again an ambiguous term that still does not tell the why.
That is what is getting tangled up here in technicality.
ME reports are signed off on the opinion of 1 person.
It is a travesty and I will keep harping on about it.
I think it's explained by the very common psychological defense mechanism of denial.
No one is suggesting something so ridiculous.
No, it’s the death certificate that has yet to be amended by the coroner. The medical examiner is the one who carried out the autopsy and wrote the autopsy report citing asphyxiation as a cause of death.No
actually it doesn't yet.
It came out in trial it is yet to be amended.
I think there's some confusion here with the coroner ruling on cause of death, and the medical examiner. Tammy wasn't given an autopsy by a medical examiner until after her exhumation. I don't think the medical examiner's stated cause or manner of death is in dispute at all. The coroner side of things is another thing entirely. It may take some bureaucracy and paperwork and hearings for her cause and manner of death to be changed legally. It's complicated because it affects things like inheritance and insurance.No
actually it doesn't yet.
It came out in trial it is yet to be amended.
I have been asking myself the same thing as I previously thought that’s what brought on the severe depression but perhaps it was that her husband was telling her she would die soon??????? I am still convinced that she was dealing with severe depression which led to sleeplessness which led to exhaustion which led to the shortness of breath at times that the daughter mentioned and to her pulling away from time with the family and going to bed earlier. I do not think that she was quite the same way around her friends and co-workers as she was still running and clogging and such - until the last day one of her co-workers saw her and she was not her normal cheerful encouraging self. Did anyone say when the email from CV was deleted? I think he sent it in June and if it was deleted around the same time, then I am leaning toward TD not seeing it and CV intercepting it. However, if it was deleted more recently - especially if it was after TD increased her insurance - then I lean more toward it having been in a junk mail folder that she didn’t see for a few months. I know that sounds like a long time but in my job I deal with hundreds of emails a day and sometimes it is months before I review the junk folder and have often found things that shouldn’t have been junk. It usually happens when the sender has a free email account like gmail or hotmail and our system filters out a lot of those because so much junk comes from those types of emails. Also, don’t forget that CV sent one to her personal email address as well. I have several personal email addresses that I rarely use anymore but every once in a while I’ll check them and there could be months of emails in there that haven’t been read yet. TD could have done something like that as well. I don’t recall hearing whether they were able to find anything about the email CV sent to her personal account. So I still think it’s a possibility that she saw the email though not likely at the time CV sent it And I agree that is less likely than I thought it was before.
Just to add, I think AC was on the phone a lot with Lori and Chad at the end. They were hiding out in Hawaii, he was hiding out in Zulema's home. In particular, I believe that he was on the phone with Lori when he collapsed, so Lori called Zulema.
I think you’re getting confused between coroner (who originally stated Tammys cause of death) and the medical examiner who carried out the autopsy when she was exhumed.That is, accepting the ME report.
We could have accepted Tammy Daybells ME report too......
There is no chance Alex died from a natural event. IMO.
Yet again an ambiguous term that still does not tell the why.
That is what is getting tangled up here in technicality.
ME reports are signed off on the opinion of 1 person.
It is a travesty and I will keep harping on about it.
moo
Not disputing alex having a blood clot.
YES.
It was, originally, but it was botched by someone new on the job, who'd only had a week's training to be a coroner (IIRC), who took what the family told her about Tammy's health at face value. She signed off natural and walked away, thinking she'd done the right thing.
Agreed!
I think it’s part of LDS culture to defer to the male head of household in such matters. LDS Websleuths here can correct me if I’m wrong, which I well could be!
This is all true of course. And when the AC autopsy first came out I did not question the natural causes conclusion.
