Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #65

[Kemug]

I think that sometimes we can, not exactly forget, but not fully understand, the tragedy of people who are "collateral damage" in awful cases like this one. I am referring particularly to Colby, of course. He is not in what I would call the major cast of players in this dreadful tragedy, and yet his life has been impacted in an appalling way. He will never completely recover from it, how could he. We can only pray that the people who love him can help him find some comfort and peace.

 

[Trouble1321075]

I think that sometimes we can, not exactly forget, but not fully understand, the tragedy of people who are "collateral damage" in awful cases like this one. I am referring particularly to Colby, of course. He is not in what I would call the major cast of players in this dreadful tragedy, and yet his life has been impacted in an appalling way. He will never completely recover from it, how could he. We can only pray that the people who love him can help him find some comfort and peace.

How about Brandon too, who narrowly escaped being murdered. His ex needs to go to jail.

 

[Kemug]

Yes, Brandon too - and of course the Woodcocks - and .. and .. and the ripples fan out to probably literally hundreds of people.

 

[carbuff]

How about Brandon too, who narrowly escaped being murdered. His ex needs to go to jail.

And his kids, and Colby's kids, and, and, and...

 

[montegrl]

Looks like the time for CD's hearing tomorrow has changed. Not sure if this will be sealed or not still:

06/15/2022 Motion Hearing
Judicial Officer
Boyce (District), Steven
Hearing Time
10:30 AM

 

[Trebor5591]

Whilst I think their relationship odd, I tend to take these sorts of reports with a pinch of salt. In addition, Loris is a teller of lies and fantasy tales. If it was true, I would have thought that she would have put a large amount of distance between them once she reaches adulthood.

One would think so. But this report did not come from Lori, but from her best childhood friend, although it was disclosed by her under a pseudo name. So perhaps one should take it with a grain of salt. Yet as soon as I read the report, the relationship between Lori and Alex became more understandable.
Perhaps if Lori at age 12 was molested by brother Alex at age 17, instead of running from Alex in later life, Lori found a way to twist the experience to her advantage, insofar as having a continuing hold" over Alex, whereby he became her strong arm willing to do act against others at her behalf. Just my opinion.

Inside Lori Vallow's odd relationship with brother who 'tried to sleep with her'

LORI Vallow’s alleged hitman brother once tried to have sex with her when she was in seventh grade and was “fixated on her,” according to a new book. Lori, 48, reportedly had a si…

www.the-sun.com

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, June 15th:
*Motions Hearing (@ 10:30am MT) – ID – Joshua Jaxon (JJ) Vallow (7) & Tylee Ashlyn Ryan (16) (JJ last seen Sept. 23, 2019 & Tylee on Sept. 9, 2019, Rexburg; found June 9, 2019 buried in Daybell’s yard in Salem, ID) & Tamara “Tammy” Michelle Douglas Daybell (49) (died on Oct. 19, 2019 at her residence in Salem, ID; dob 5/4/70). – for *Chad Guy Daybell (51/now 53) arrested (6/9/20) & indicted (5/25/21) & charged (5/26/21) & arraigned (6/9/21) with Count 1 (for Tylee): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder & grand theft by deception (for Daybell, Vallow & Alex Cox) & other co-conspirators. Count 2 (for Tylee): 1st degree murder. Count 3 (for JJ): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder & grand theft by deception. Count 4(for JJ): 1st degree murder. Count 5 (for Tammy, 49, died 10/19/19): Conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder. Count 6 (for Tammy): 1st degree murder. Count 8 & 9: Insurance Fraud (Two counts of insurance fraud related to 2 different life insurance policies he had on Tammy). Plead not guilty. No bond. DA will seek DP.
Trial set to begin on 1/9/23 with jury selection. Trial will be held in Ada County. (will last 10 weeks).
Previous charges, Grand jury indictment & Court info from 6/10/20 thru 5/24/22 reference post #864 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...-vallow-62-oct-2019-arrests-65.615074/page-44
5/25/22 Update: Next motion hearing on 6/8/22. 5/31/22: Response to Request for Discovery: 4th Supplemental. 6/1/22: Motion (to seal) & Order (to seal). Motion to deny motions without hearing due to failure to comply with ICR 12. 6/6/22: Motion (to seal) & Order (to seal). Witness & Exhibit List.
6/9/22 Update: Motions hearing on 6/15/22 @ 9am & pretrial conference on 11/9/22. Time was changed to 10:30am for hearing on 6/15/22.
*Lori Norene Vallow aka Lori Norene Daybell (46/now 48) – Fremont County: 5/27/21: Found incompetent to stand trial. All hearings put on hold. Competency review hearing was on 6/16/21, but Prosecutor Wood withdraws motion to contest competency. 4/11/22: Found competent to stand trial. Trial set to begin on 1/9/23. Last hearing on 5/19/22.
*Madison County: Pretrial conference hearing on 8/17/21 & trial set to begin on 8/30/21 were both vacated.

 

[AgeofAquaruis]

One would think so. But this report did not come from Lori, but from her best childhood friend, although it was disclosed by her under a pseudo name. So perhaps one should take it with a grain of salt. Yet as soon as I read the report, the relationship between Lori and Alex became more understandable.
Perhaps if Lori at age 12 was molested by brother Alex at age 17, instead of running from Alex in later life, Lori found a way to twist the experience to her advantage, insofar as having a continuing hold" over Alex, whereby he became her strong arm willing to do act against others at her behalf. Just my opinion.

Inside Lori Vallow's odd relationship with brother who 'tried to sleep with her'

LORI Vallow’s alleged hitman brother once tried to have sex with her when she was in seventh grade and was “fixated on her,” according to a new book. Lori, 48, reportedly had a si…

www.the-sun.com

I didn't know John Glatt wrote a book about this. I'm going to go the Kindle store now.

 

[Kemug]

Harking back a bit to the "collateral damage" victims, I'm also thinking of Joe Ryan's sons, Tylee was their little sister. And of course they also lost their father. Sympathies to them as well.

 

[Niner]

I'm guessing no news on the hearing yesterday for Chad? Closed hearing? TIA!

 

[indicolite22]

Excerpt about the welfare check from the new book on this case, authored by journalist Leah Sottile:

An Elusive Mother, an End-Times Evangelist, and the Missing Kids That Launched a Mystery

Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell have been accused of murdering Vallow's two kids, JJ and Tylee. In this excerpt we meet the Idaho couple.

www.rollingstone.com

ETA: The author recently gave a podcast interview. She dug deep into the case and has knowledge of the underlying culture, so (IMO) this book might be interesting.

 

[indicolite22]

Apparently Chad's younger brother, who never gave any media statements was interviewed for Leah Sottile's book.

 

[indicolite22]

Preparations for Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell trial at Ada County Courthouse in Boise

The Ada County Courthouse is preparing for the trial of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell, set to begin in January.

www.krem.com

“So at this point, we're working closely with Judge Boyce and his staff to ensure they have what they need for them to be able to try the case here,” said Steve Hippler, the administrative district judge for the Fourth Judicial District, which includes Ada County.

 

[indicolite22]

Another interview with the book author:

In new book journalist Leah Sottile explores religious extremism behind Idaho murders

In new book "When the Moon Turns to Blood" journalist Leah Sottile explores extremism and religious beliefs of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, a couple accused of killing their two children in Idaho.

www.spokanepublicradio.org

Freelance journalist Leah Sottile said she’s always been fascinated by people on the fringes, which has led to a career exploring extremism in the West.
...
Her new book, “When the Moon Turns to Blood,” explores the couple (Lori and Chad) ties to near death experience and apocalyptic literature, and Latter-Day Saints beliefs outside of accepted church doctrine.

 

[887sMtreme]

Another interview with the book author:

In new book journalist Leah Sottile explores religious extremism behind Idaho murders

In new book "When the Moon Turns to Blood" journalist Leah Sottile explores extremism and religious beliefs of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow, a couple accused of killing their two children in Idaho.

www.spokanepublicradio.org

Freelance journalist Leah Sottile said she’s always been fascinated by people on the fringes, which has led to a career exploring extremism in the West.
...
Her new book, “When the Moon Turns to Blood,” explores the couple (Lori and Chad) ties to near death experience and apocalyptic literature, and Latter-Day Saints beliefs outside of accepted church doctrine.

This one looks interesting. I’ve pre-ordered the Kindle version.

 

[Trouble1321075]

Am I alone in feeling like the niece MBP is escaping justice?

 

[fred&edna]

Am I alone in feeling like the niece MBP is escaping justice?

Nope. I'm right there with you.

 

[Diddian]

Harking back a bit to the "collateral damage" victims, I'm also thinking of Joe Ryan's sons, Tylee was their little sister. And of course they also lost their father. Sympathies to them as well.

I think you might possibly mean Charles Vallow's two sons from an earlier marriage. IIRC, Tylee was Joe Ryan's only biological child, although through his marriage to Lori, he was also Colby's stepfather (I cannot remember for certain, but I don't think he adopted Colby.)

 

[altojack]

Hope these links work. They are all the same call recorded by Chandler LE. I could give a start time but Debbie, the ex-wife of Alex Cox talks, Joseph Ryan, the Cox Family and the info of the relationship between Alex and Lori.

LISTEN: Ex-wife details bizarre relationship between Alex Cox and Lori Vallow Daybell - East Idaho News

CHANDLER, Ariz. — A phone call released Thursday afternoon from the Chandler Police Department reveals a conversation between a detective and Alex Cox’s ex-wife where she shares a bizarre relationship Cox allegedly had with his sister Lori Vallow Daybell. Marriage records previously obtained by...

www.eastidahonews.com

 

[carbuff]

OMG!