Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Sept & Oct 2019 *Arrests* #59

[dixiegirl1035]

And Prior filed a motion on 6/21 for extension of time - does that mean the hearing for CD is still on for tomorrow - or not? If anyone knows... TIA!

@Niner, I'm not sure if allowed to do screenshot, but from what I see on court link, it is still on tomorrow am. FWIW 9:30 am.

• 06/23/2021 Scheduling Conference
  
  Judicial Officer
  Boyce (District), Steven
  
  Hearing Time
  9:30 AM

iCourt Portal - Online records & payments for the Idaho courts

(to view, but in chad daybell into above search feature, free to all)

 

[dixiegirl1035]

And also for clarification, the court doc you referred to above, was Lori's. From long ago. A new "spin" by MSM recently MOO on interpretation as to niece.

MOO

 

[LinasK]

And also for clarification, the court doc you referred to above, was Lori's. From long ago. A new "spin" by MSM recently MOO on interpretation as to niece.

MOO

Personally, I'd rather see charges brought for Lori for the death of Charles instead, and maybe Joe Ryan.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

So - it IS an indictment? And "who" is MP - ??
And thanks!

MP is LVD niece.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

MP=LVD’s cousin Melanie
I believe they were referring to the original indictment, not a new one

MP is LVD niece not cousin.

 

[BUF]

MP is LVD niece not cousin.

Thanks

 

[Colorado303]

Wouldn't this benefit the prosecution in regards to delaying while LV is treated and possibly deemed competent during that time?

If Prior truly hasn’t received the discovery on murder charges from the DA yet, it seems he would have no choice but to ask for an extension. I wonder what is taking the prosecution so long to provide it.

 

[pizzaman12]

If Prior truly hasn’t received the discovery on murder charges from the DA yet, it seems he would have no choice but to ask for an extension. I wonder what is taking the prosecution so long to provide it.

Yeah, I'm confused. I thought it was stated it had already turned over discovery. Seems like a very long time

 

[Nikynoo]

If Prior truly hasn’t received the discovery on murder charges from the DA yet, it seems he would have no choice but to ask for an extension. I wonder what is taking the prosecution so long to provide it.

I'll see if I can find the discovery responses, but was it not a July date?

Yes, date given by prosecution was 15th July https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211623/Discovery Disclosure.pdf

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Local update: MM was not at the women’s detention center today.

*Still waiting for official word from East Idaho News on whether LVD has been transferred.

 

[MsJosie]

Local update: MM was not at the women’s detention center today.

*Still waiting for official word from East Idaho News on whether LVD has been transferred.

I wonder if he is going to the hospital. I wonder if he is plowed to see LV at anytime he wants too? IMO that would not help with her treatment plan. Get her stabilized and then allow short visits and lengthen the visits s time goes on. JMOO

 

[Colorado303]

6/15 Submission by prosecution 3 page PDF - Request for Discovery https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/Request for Discovery 061521.pdf

6/17 Order to unseal hearing July 27th 2020 for specific use (So special prosecutor can view) - https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22-20-755/Order to Unseal Hearing.pdf

6/18 Submission by Means - Motion to compel, notice of transfer of discovery documents (Means is upset as he doesn't think state has given what he asked for May 27th) https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211624/Declared Motion to Compel Notice of Transfer of Discovery Documents 061821.pdf

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
17 mins ·
Meanwhile, Lori Vallow’s attorney Mark Means filed motion to compel. He says the State has not complied with his request for discovery served on 5/27. The State responded on 6/10, saying discovery would be provided by 7/15. Means wants a hearing and sanctions against State.

6/21 Submission by Prior to extend time. https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/case/CR22211623/Motion to Extend Time for Motions to be Filed and Heard 062121.pdf

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
Chad Daybell’s attorney John Prior motions to extend time for motion to dismiss to be heard. He says he has yet to receive any discovery from the prosecution in this case.

I found this item interesting in the State’s request for discovery motion:

“REQUEST NO .4. A written notice of defendant’s intention to offer a defense alibi, stating the specific place or places which the defendant claims to have been at the time of the alleged offense and the names and addresses of the witnesses upon who he intends to rely to establish such alibi.”

Is that a standard clause included in all DA discovery requests?

 

[Colorado303]

Chad may think of himself as a “famous author” but he’s not too bright. I doubt it ever occurred to him that he was as disposable as Tammy, Charles and the children. He was safe only as long as the money lasted.

He would stay safe as long as he had money and Lori’s path never crossed some other man who had even more.

 

[Colorado303]

So - it IS an indictment? And "who" is MP - ??
And thanks!

Has the AZ indictment been made public?

 

[Colorado303]

Yeah, I'm confused. I thought it was stated it had already turned over discovery. Seems like a very long time

I believe the State already provided discovery for the original “buried in the backyard” charges (though MM can’t seem to find his copies). However, it sounds like discovery for the murder charges and all others resulting from the Grand Jury indictment has not yet been provided to the defense.

Someone please correct me if my interpretation is incorrect.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

I wonder if he is going to the hospital. I wonder if he is plowed to see LV at anytime he wants too? IMO that would not help with her treatment plan. Get her stabilized and then allow short visits and lengthen the visits s time goes on. JMOO

The local hospital in Rexburg is Madison Memorial Hospital. They are not fully equipped to handle a long term stay for mental health.

I can’t say for certain without proof that LVD has been transferred yet. Which is why I am awaiting confirmation.

From this article by East Idaho News, I’d say MM is overstepping his bounds by asking for so many requests and stipulations: Prosecutor responds to 'inappropriate,' 'absurd' requests of Lori Vallow Daybell's attorney - East Idaho News

I’m not sure MM will be granted them or not (I’m not a lawyer nor a mental health physician/counselor). I can’t imagine he would have the rights to be there everyday all day.

All jmo moo imo

 

[mickey2942]

Attorney makes long list of requests before Lori Vallow Daybell is moved to mental health facility - East Idaho News

Every time I read this, I find more items that are absolutely out of control.

Means asserts that LVD has suffered "historic and systemic abuse". Really? LVD does not come across as a victim of abuse.

"Means also wants to know proposed treatment, medications and plans before they are administered to Daybell.".

Interesting, is Means also a specialist in psychiatric treatment? Does he have a background in psychotropic medicine? How would he be able to evaluate whether a treatment plan for LVD is appropriate? Why should a clinician have to put forth any information prior to treatment for a patient, for a prior evaluation by an attorney? The hubris of this request is absolutely outrageous.

I could continue to go on and on about Means...

 

[fred&edna]

That is interesting, you see LVD as completely differently than I see her. I see her as a manipulative psychopath. I don't even believe that she truly has believed in CD's "beliefs", except that maybe they can be twisted to accommodate the "World According to LVD".

You appear to view her as a "victim" of CD.

RSBM & I agree with you @mickey2942

Tylee and JJ are the victims. Well, actually there are additional victims (imo) but... Lori sure as heck ain't one of them.

 

[TheProblemWeAllLiveWith]

Admittedly I haven’t paid attention to many pre-trial defense motions before this case, so apologies if this is a weird question.
Is it normal for defense attorneys to mention ‘historic and systemic abuse’ in a motion? What does that alleged fact have to do with him being involved in her mental health care? Is it a warning or threat to CD that LV is going to claim he abused her? If not, why even put that out there now? I’m not surprised he wants to try the abuse excuse, just the timing of it. (CF Arias PTSD defense? I can’t go through that again lol).

 

[dixiegirl1035]

Admittedly I haven’t paid attention to many pre-trial defense motions before this case, so apologies if this is a weird question.
Is it normal for defense attorneys to mention ‘historic and systemic abuse’ in a motion? What does that alleged fact have to do with him being involved in her mental health care? Is it a warning or threat to CD that LV is going to claim he abused her? If not, why even put that out there now? I’m not surprised he wants to try the abuse excuse, just the timing of it. (CF Arias PTSD defense? I can’t go through that again lol).

Ahhhh yes. The ol' Snow White was a battered woman/ Alyce LaViolette defense. Perhaps Lori's atty is setting the stage in public now to support such. The historic and systemic abuse made her go cray cray, just like Jodi.

Pffft.