Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #3

[Dontknow?]

Not good.

“We are aware that in the weeks after Tammy Daybell’s death, Lori Vallow/Daybell and Chad Daybell told witnesses that Lori’s daughter had died a year before the death of her father, which is untrue,” the news release says. “Around that same time, Chad told another witness that Lori had no minor children.”

Thank you for the link @155etta

Mother of missing kids knows where they are or what happened to them, police say | East Idaho News

 

[Steelslady]

Exactly. But who saw Tylee in Sept? And why would Lori tell people Tylee died in 2017?
This is so nuts! Every new piece of info only adds to the chaos and confusion...



MOO

Wow, what did I miss? Lori told people Tylee died in 2017?

 

[Steelslady]

Not good.

“We are aware that in the weeks after Tammy Daybell’s death, Lori Vallow/Daybell and Chad Daybell told witnesses that Lori’s daughter had died a year before the death of her father, which is untrue,” the news release says. “Around that same time, Chad told another witness that Lori had no minor children.”

Thank you for the link @155etta

Mother of missing kids knows where they are or what happened to them, police say | East Idaho News

Wow. This is insane and sick.

Chad told someone that Lori had no minor children and Lori tells people her daughter died in 2017? Wasn't there some lady on here that knew Tylee who said her daughter had last talked to her last year?

 

[lonetraveler]

I think someone has floated a theory like this previously. Could be, but no evidence to support it. And while I understand why people want to paint any Mormon splinter group as polygamous, this seems to be a stretch where the groups Chad and Lori are purported to be involved with are concerned.

Oh, painting the splinter groups as polygamous is just a beginning.

 

[oviedo]

The media thread is linked on page one of each new thread in the first post (it's above where it says thread #1): ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #3

And I find it helpful to “watch” the media threads I update and follow to keep up to date

 

[GoneGoldfishin']

Right after Tammy died, Lori told "witnesses" that her daughter had died a year before her father passed away. So in 2017 some time?

Why would she say that?

My husband said she would say it to cover up the fact that she does not seem like a grieving mother, just got married etc. If she would have told people she just lost a child, it would have been inconsistent with her actions/demeanor, but to put a couple of years distance, it wouldn't seem so strange. Depending on who the witnesses turn out to be, this makes sense to me.OOO. (Our opinions only).

 

[BigAl16]

Wow. This is insane and sick.

Chad told someone that Lori had no minor children and Lori tells people her daughter died in 2017? Wasn't there some lady on here that knew Tylee who said her daughter had last talked to her last year?

I think she said it was a year and a half ago.

 

[Tigerlily75]

Colby Ryan has just posted a public video regarding Tylee and JJ (I do hope that makes it ok to mention since he’s choosing to speak publicly on the case).

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[janewall]

Right now, the story - especially the most recent release from Rexburg PD - is largely being carried in Eastern Idaho, Salt Lake City, and the Phoenix, AZ areas. I don't happen to think that the children nor Lori and Chad are in those areas. The story needs to to get out in Kansas, Texas, and Southern California at a minimum.

And in Hawaii ...

 

[BigAl16]

Colby Ryan has just posted a public video regarding Tylee and JJ (I do hope that makes it ok to mention since he’s choosing to speak publicly on the case).

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I was hoping he'd say when he last saw Tylee.

Right at the beginning he cracked a joke about it being Arizona and him being dressed for the cold. I thought that he lived in Kansas. I'm not sure that it makes any kind of difference though. Also, if anyone wonders where CJ is religiously, he's devout Mormon or at least trying to appear to be. MOO

 

[Jethro4WS]

Oh, painting the splinter groups as polygamous is just a beginning.

Yep. The list of words I have for groups like the "Knights of the Crystal Blade" (as one example) would get me banned.

 

[AceOndaCase]

Not having a good feeling about these kids fate and never really did from the start. Many of us keep asking how do we know for sure Tylee was last seen in September. I have seen someone post that she made it to Idaho and someone post that Colby said he last talked to her on the day of Charles’s death. I don’t remember hearing this from Colby. Maybe I missed it. Also, what were we going on that proved Tylee made it to Idaho? I was thinking maybe the reason Colby went to the scene of Charles’ murder is bc maybe Tylee called him from the car (that she was told to go to and wait with JJ) and was super upset, which she should be. That makes sense to me—she’s scared and calls big brother for comfort/help. Otherwise, it is weird to me that Colby was called to the scene.
I don’t know why, but I have a feeling that they are guessing that September is the last Tylee was seen bc they don’t have an exact date and assume her disappearance happened the same time as JJ’s, unless it was Tylee that picked him up from school or she was with Lori then. I just see the shooting of Charles as such a shock to Tylee that she couldn’t remain silent and so they hurt her around that time. It would also explain Alex driving her car and Colby ending up with Alex’s car.
As far as her phone pinging (if it was hers), it might have been turned off and with Lori the whole time. She might have switched it on to check something bc she found it while gathering stuff quickly to skip town and thought she would be safe turning it on for a quick second. Lori might have been using this phone in October too bc what 17 year old sends big brother money? MOO

I think most of us are thinking the same thing about who the masked man was, and I am also thinking it was a real gun—not a paintball gun, but Tammy wanted to assume the best. A real gun was used around that time to shoot at BB. Since the gun didn’t go off, she wouldn’t have seen any paintballs to know for sure it was a paintball gun. Wonder if BB saw the type of gun used to shoot at him and what type of gun was used to shoot Charles. All MOO

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Thx for gently correcting me. I must’ve overlooked it. I could’ve sworn it wasn’t there. Thanks a bunch.

The media thread is linked on page one of each new thread in the first post (it's above where it says thread #1): ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 #3

 

[155etta]

Tammy Daybell reported a masked man shot at her with a paintball gun 10 days before her 'suspicious' death | East Idaho News

 

[diggndeeperstill]

According to Gray’s youtube videos, an insider said that Charles was paying for 21 phone lines. I am guessing Tylee’s was one of them so it is possible when he passed, the bill wasn’t paid and phone service shut off. This might have prompted them to switch providers and maybe even be assigned a new number or purchased a new phone.

Did you really mean 21? That’s a ton of phone lines.

 

[Redvines86]

Not having a good feeling about these kids fate and never really did from the start. Many of us keep asking how do we know for sure Tylee was last seen in September. I have seen someone post that she made it to Idaho and someone post that Colby said he last talked to her on the day of Charles’s death. I don’t remember hearing this from Colby. Maybe I missed it. Also, what were we going on that proved Tylee made it to Idaho? I was thinking maybe the reason Colby went to the scene of Charles’ murder is bc maybe Tylee called him from the car (that she was told to go to and wait with JJ) and was super upset, which she should be. That makes sense to me—she’s scared and calls big brother for comfort/help. Otherwise, it is weird to me that Colby was called to the scene.
I don’t know why, but I have a feeling that they are guessing that September is the last Tylee was seen bc they don’t have an exact date and assume her disappearance happened the same time as JJ’s, unless it was Tylee that picked him up from school or she was with Lori then. I just see the shooting of Charles as such a shock to Tylee that she couldn’t remain silent and so they hurt her around that time. It would also explain Alex driving her car and Colby ending up with Alex’s car.
As far as her phone pinging (if it was hers), it might have been turned off and with Lori the whole time. She might have switched it on to check something bc she found it while gathering stuff quickly to skip town and thought she would be safe turning it on for a quick second. Lori might have been using this phone in October too bc what 17 year old sends big brother money? MOO

I think most of us are thinking the same thing about who the masked man was, and I am also thinking it was a real gun—not a paintball gun, but Tammy wanted to assume the best. A real gun was used around that time to shoot at BB. Since the gun didn’t go off, she wouldn’t have seen any paintballs to know for sure it was a paintball gun. Wonder if BB saw the type of gun used to shoot at him and what type of gun was used to shoot Charles. All MOO

All this, yes!!!! I think this is the closest version so far JMO

 

[Ksprincess2]

I was hoping he'd say when he last saw Tylee.

Right at the beginning he cracked a joke about it being Arizona and him being dressed for the cold. I thought that he lived in Kansas. I'm not sure that it makes any kind of difference though. Also, if anyone wonders where CJ is religiously, he's devout Mormon or at least trying to appear to be. MOO

I don't understand why he didn't say anything about his Mom? Something along the lines of "Mom if you see this please call me, I just need to know Tylee and JJ are ok". Has he said when the last time he spoke to his Mom or the kids was? Surely Thanksgiving atleast? He has a baby, has his Mom not visited her grandbaby at all?

 

[Detective Cup]

Right now, the story - especially the most recent release from Rexburg PD - is largely being carried in Eastern Idaho, Salt Lake City, and the Phoenix, AZ areas. I don't happen to think that the children nor Lori and Chad are in those areas. The story needs to to get out in Kansas, Texas, and Southern California at a minimum.

I live in Silicon Valley (Northern CA) and many people I know have talked about this case. So I definitely think the story is spreading beyond the areas you mentioned.

 

[Dontknow?]

I was hoping he'd say when he last saw Tylee.

Right at the beginning he cracked a joke about it being Arizona and him being dressed for the cold. I thought that he lived in Kansas. I'm not sure that it makes any kind of difference though. Also, if anyone wonders where CJ is religiously, he's devout Mormon or at least trying to appear to be. MOO

dbm...

 

[mickey2942]

The information provided about Tammy Daybell going to bed "coughing", is that from Chad Daybell? Was he the only person in the house when Tammy died?

Therefore, we really don't know what occurred, if we only have Chad Daybell's story.

It reminds me of taking Chris Watts storytelling at face value.