Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #29

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Sorelle19 said:
I'm grateful IP cooperated so early on and LE was able to assemble these detailed notes. They provide the rationale for getting rid of the kids that I have grappled to understand, namely, that killing them would be a blessing. Their physical bodies were possessed and only death could free their trapped spirits and allow them to move into their next life. AC was the willing scapegoat who could carry this out, Lori's "angel," in her words. These recollections are also dripping with sexual references, including how a man and woman married multiple times would increase in power as their sexual desire increased. Someone here mentioned synergy - how two moving forces that unite can become stronger. The meeting of these two unleashed something truly unholy. Sickening that they sold it though a religious lens.
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BBM ITA, but would add that the upper most scapegoat that they use is God. Not Mormonism but God, they just know nothing but Mormonism to base their new religion on so it has hints based on their belief system that they were raised on. I think that even if they were Christian they would have believed the same sorts of things and blamed it on God. Many people have done that throughout history.

With all that has come out in the last days and weeks, I look at it more and more that it really has nothing to do with any religion that we know at all.

From Miriam Webster

Definition of religion
1a : the state of a religious
a nun in her 20th year of religion
b(1) : the service and worship of God or the supernatural
(2) : commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance
2 : a personal set or institutionalized system of religious attitudes, beliefs, and practices
3 archaic : scrupulous conformity : CONSCIENTIOUSNESS
4 : a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith

BBM IMO trying to understand this based on any religion is moot. They simply made their own religion to justify what they want, sex, people out of their lives, fun, money, etc.
 
Alpha Bravo said:
OK, that looks like (almost) the whole thing. Remember, he didn't apparently plan on dropping that letter, but the ex found it on his computer he gave her. WOW is all I have to say! Almost a confession, like he was writing it to a friend or relative all the facts as he knows it (and is actually willing to share). The header and footer are redacted, if ever there. He really wants Melani to be innocent, but lets be honest, she is not honest with him. Their wedding night, she drops more religious mumbo jumbo on him. Good grief! And she can't articulate where she learned all that nonsense.

Of note was the chilling missive I hadn't seen yet, about the fate of the kids (if that's what they(ChaLo) felt was the Lord's will) .
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BBM Just a wild random thought, but what if heave the computer to Natalie because he wanted her to find it, it would take the blame off of him for turning it in. MOO.

ETA See that this has been mentioned before, racing to catch up but while reading I am vacillating between laughing hysterically or tearing up up over the whole situation.
 
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reluctant_anthropologist said:
If any of you have kids you've got to home-school tomorrow, you're welcome to use this quiz that I'll be giving mine (answers at the bottom):

1) What is the minimum number of probations required for exaltation?
A) 1
B) 4
C) 6
D) 9

2) For translated beings, healing is _____ and never _____.
A) painful / enjoyable
B) sanctifying / meaningless
C) accelerated / fatal
D) spiritual / medically induced

3) Two of "Cain's 50" are:
A) Charles Vallow and Nick Schneider
B) Detectives Hope and Hermosillo
C) Lucifer and that guy who deliberately spread Covid 19
D) Lori and Chad (JK!!!)

4) What are no longer required when an individual's level of vibrations exceeds 1,000?
A) Earthquake-proof homes
B) Regular Church and temple attendance
C) Lawyers whose websites are 100% free of grammatical errors
D) Garments

5) A "Zombie" is:
A) A body that has been penetrated by a worm/slug
B) A person whose spirit has been pushed from their body by a traumatic event
C) A song by the popular 1990s band The Cranberries
D) All of the above

Answer Key: D, C, D, D
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This is great:). Comic relief sometimes necessary during these crazy times. ..and those worm/slugs though! Starts to veer into “Stranger Things” territory.. wth?
Alpha Bravo said:
Perhaps all that is needed is to be on the "Lori *** List" to be on her actual "Hit List"... Good thing she is behind bars. Et tu, Brutus (Chad)?
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Yes, the Venn Diagram of the two is basically a circle. What an amazing coincidence!;)
 
April_Dawn99 said:
They despise government, for this reason they will take everything from it, including any funds that are available ... to make government poorer and weaker :D:p
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That would make sense (to them). But, I wonder if there's data or some sort of statistical reporting on the application and acceptance of gov't funds by members of these groups. That's probably a discussion for another day.
 
Alpha Bravo said:
IIRC one of our insiders, whose parents are anti-gov, (ETA: perhaps more anti socialism is the way to put it ) refuse to take SS as well as Obamacare funded healthcare plans. (Almost free if you are over 62 make less than about 70K). So, yeah, there are people who turn their nose up at it and stick to the script.

The country was built on the backs of pioneering folks who chipped in their own wealth and effort, and it's a bit of a pain to recognize that and yet see this wealthy nation straddled with $20T in debt for various programs and adventures. I can see where they are coming from. :/ :endrant:
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OT,...Manifest destiny, land deeds given away to those who would toil. Let’s not forget who paid the price for this concept. I have ancestors that were Osage. Google Osage to see their treatment. I’m not saying all pioneers fit into the category of those that treated the Osage and other tribes like sub-humans, but it was common practice. MOO
 
Alpha Bravo said:
IIRC one of our insiders, whose parents are anti-gov, (ETA: perhaps more anti socialism is the way to put it ) refuse to take SS as well as Obamacare funded healthcare plans. (Almost free if you are over 62 make less than about 70K). So, yeah, there are people who turn their nose up at it and stick to the script.

The country was built on the backs of pioneering folks who chipped in their own wealth and effort, and it's a bit of a pain to recognize that and yet see this wealthy nation straddled with $20T in debt for various programs and adventures. I can see where they are coming from. :/ :endrant:
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Justin and nate where is tami daybells autopsy report??????
 
Countem said:
Oh no. On Justin Lum’s thread of new documents. The “Zombie” section.

“Spirits pushed out are trapped in limbo as the body they’re tied to is still living, but cannot be occupied anymore.”

Let me guess, Lori thought that Tylee and JJ were such spirits and had to be liberated through the death of their bodies? :(
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And CV. And IMO MB's children were next.

I'm really going to try to catch up today!
 
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I wonder if they thought it would be easier for Melanie ro kee
CSIDreamer said:
I find it highly odd that 3 months (roughly) after marrying Melani that IP just happened to give his ex wife a computer with this stuff on it. Most people would have wiped it for privacy. In my current highly fueled state of hysteria and paranoia (75% kidding) I call that smuggling the message out. Jmo
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I don’t think it was smuggled. I think it was planted.
 
Friday March 20,2020

Home Page - OME Case Status
Alex Cox Autopsy = PENDING

VINELink
LORI N VALLOW
Custody Record
jpeg

Age46
GenderFemale
RaceWhite
ID: Madison County Sheriff's Office
ID Number174174
Custody StatusIn Custody
Custody DetailMadison County Detention Center

iCourt Portal - Online records & payments for the Idaho courts
CR33-20-0302 | State of Idaho Plaintiff, vs. Lori Norene Vallow Defendant.

Case Number
CR33-20-0302

Court
Madison County Magistrate Court

Judicial Officer
Mallard, Michelle Radford

File Date
02/18/2020

Case Type
Criminal

Case Status
Active - Pending

  • 03/19/2020 Motion to Withdraw
  • 03/20/2020 Order

    Comment
    Amended Order Reducing Bail and Conditions of Bail
 
Ohmeohmy said:
Friday March 20,2020

Home Page - OME Case Status
Alex Cox Autopsy = PENDING

VINELink
LORI N VALLOW
Custody Record
jpeg

Age46
GenderFemale
RaceWhite
ID: Madison County Sheriff's Office
ID Number174174
Custody StatusIn Custody
Custody DetailMadison County Detention Center

iCourt Portal - Online records & payments for the Idaho courts
CR33-20-0302 | State of Idaho Plaintiff, vs. Lori Norene Vallow Defendant.

Case Number
CR33-20-0302

Court
Madison County Magistrate Court

Judicial Officer
Mallard, Michelle Radford

File Date
02/18/2020

Case Type
Criminal

Case Status
Active - Pending

  • 03/19/2020 Motion to Withdraw
  • 03/20/2020 Order

    Comment
    Amended Order Reducing Bail and Conditions of Bail
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They didn’t reduce her bail again did theg? Please tell ne that the 3/20 order was just agreeing to let her two attorneys walk.
 
RBofHV said:
Wow, just wow. If this is really what they were teaching I think we can see why Lori would have no emotion about killing someone. She would truly feel justified in her actions. Interesting how yet again it was said by MBp that Brandon would die when it was his time, same as what Lori said about Charles. That she told her friend in Hawaii he would die soon.
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And Chad said the same to Julie Rowe about Tammy.
 
Tortoise said:
This may have been discussed since I signed off for the night many hours ago and I haven't caught up with the posts since, but I just wanted to point out a discrepancy I read in the docs that Justin has released.

IP's notes on the computer he gave his ex-wife NP:

"My ex-wife, [NP], had been asking for [MBP's] name so she can check her out on social media and get an idea of who she is. [MBP] had been adamant that I not share her full name with anyone for fear that [BB] may locate and harrass her. I couldn't justify that and eventually gave [NP] [MBP's] full name."


NP's email dated Dec 4th 2019:

"He said that she didn't want me learning her last name because I would contact her ex husband and he would tell me that "She tried to kill him and she's in a cult". "


I believe NP. So why is IP twisting what MBP said?


That feeling hasn't left me that he is working both sides. His two scenarios for everything is because he can't manage to explain both. Especially with this line in his note -

"She [NP] told me she'd be going in to meet with the police. I told her I'd go along and lay out everything I understand."

IMO he went to have an ear in on how much the police knew. I think he is deliberately vague about Tammy's and Alex's deaths. I also think he is something of a handler, along with Z. I think MBP knows about JJ and Tylee. It's not adding up that he gives up time with his own kids out of fear but yet he supports MBP, pregnant or not.

MOOOOOOO
Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix
https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn....=6f2f45f5c4eac295c40cddfc47ba3c76&oe=5E99CFE7
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I agree. All of this reads like a disinformation/misinformation scheme to try to learn what law enforcement knew. I really hope they believe(d) that law enforcement is that naive. I suspect that both Ian and Melani have lied to the FBI and probably on more than one occasion. If their lawyers have not yet explained it to them yet, they should know there is a 6 year statue of limitations on lying to the FBI. Worse, if their actions were contributing to the furtherance of a crime - regardless of whether or not the Feds are involved with prosecuting the original crime - they can be charged as an accessory after the fact under federal statutes. They can find themselves doing more jail time than anyone else involved in this. Hope they chose a lawyer that explained all of this to them.
 
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