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I really am having a hard time believing Alex’s autopsy. I think ALL the deaths were premeditated murders.
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I really am having a hard time believing Alex’s autopsy. I think ALL the deaths were premeditated murders.
Great discussion. I couldn't get over how cheap those rings were. I had to wonder at the time if Chad knew he was getting married.
The bonfires, IMO, could have been explained as getting rid of Tammy's old clothing, etc., right after her passing, and cleaning out the house to be sold - 25 years of canceled checks and things like that.
My theory only - AC was the one who did the murdering. The children were buried there while everyone else was at Tammy's funeral (as previously put forward), and maybe, just maybe, it was Chad himself who finally turned state's evidence.
A toxicology report needs to be done on AC as well as TD. I would bet it was the same drug. JMO
You're the bomb Alpha Q. Your simplicity of the facts are the best!Long time lurker. Joined this site to follow this case for the cult angle. Thought for sure those two kids would turn up in some nut-bar compound somewhere. What a horror. And all because some delusional man-toddler wanted to tap some honey-haired strange. By all accounts Daybell had a lovely, beautiful, smart wife who could look straight at that head and STILL give him babies. For what? Vallow?
You can bet Vallow's driving this particular crazy train. You get divorced once, that happens. You get divorced twice, that's bad luck. Three times? That's a pattern. You get divorced 4 times, that's a symptom. What's her MO? I think she might actually believe we're all staring down the apocalypse. Come July 23, those two are gonna start tearing each other to pieces. I hope Vallow doesn't try to Karla Homolka her way out of this.
JMO and all that.
Sealing is a Temple ceremony in the LDS church where a woman is sealed to a man for time and eternity, or just time.
Not every member of the LDS church qualifies for sealing in the Temple. I wondered if Lori and Chad qualified for temple sealing. I thought you had to be in good standing with the church, which involves paying full tithe, among other things. Chad's religious views may have been enough to get him excommunicated, in which case, he would not qualify for temple sealing.
Since there are pictures of Chad and Tammy being married and standing outside the temple, that marriage was probably sealed.
Chad and Lori could not have been sealed in a temple. Not officially. He was married to Tammy at the time and you simply cannot be sealed to another person as that would be polygamy, which is against Church practice and will get you excommunicated. Any 'sealing' would not be legitimate and would not have been sanctioned or performed by the Church, but would have been done secretly in an unauthorized ceremony/authority/manner, or simply in their own imaginations. JMO.
She did...but I didn’t believe her then.
I think it was actually Uncle Alex, remember "CPQuint" license plate?, that pretended to be JJ on the phone with Janis.
I believe that only females cannot be sealed in the temple if they are (previously sealed) widowed but Males (previously sealed) still can (IIRC from this discussion many threads back). Actually, females can request a temple sealing be dissolved so they can be free to re-marry & seal themselves to another man. Honestly, I do not know but I have been told this before by other LDS folks (although it is not something they usually brag around - none of the temple ordinances are things they like to discuss with people outside of the religion).Chad and Lori could not have been sealed in a temple. Not officially. He was married to Tammy at the time and you simply cannot be sealed to another person as that would be polygamy, which is against Church practice and will get you excommunicated. Any 'sealing' would not be legitimate and would not have been sanctioned or performed by the Church, but would have been done secretly in an unauthorized ceremony/authority/manner, or simply in their own imaginations. JMO.
Tammy was already deceased, though, right?
My husband works with one of the neighbors. He says the neighbor is torn up about the events and wished they said something sooner. They had witnessed the bonfires and smelled something awful.
My husbands work has been shaken pretty hard, as have our household. We have a son who reminds us so much of JJ, maybe that’s part of what drew me to the case. I’ve shed so many tears over Tylee and JJ and I know no amount of words or prayers will be enough.
When they got married civilly on the beaches of Hawaii, yes. But according to MG they were attending the temple together in Arizona, while Tammy was still alive.Tammy was already deceased, though, right?
Kind of makes you wonder why they needed to remove the back seat and the tire..........I think it was determined that was the jeep removable seat from Tylee's jeep. They also stored the extra tire on the back of the jeep, as I understand it.
I'm looking forward to this. Jmo
Not offending me. Let’s not forget according to MG, these two thought they had been married to each other in prior lives so I guess it wouldn’t be premarital sex. Makes me sick how they twisted religion for lust. (Isn’t that what she said? Married to each other?)
I do wonder if they really are not legally married.
Kind of makes you wonder why they needed to remove the back seat and the tire..........
My purpose is not to discuss the LDS religion here but more to decipher whether CD & LV(D) felt comfy enough that God wouldn't notice, and the LDS church wouldn't notice if they secretly sealed themselves within the LDS temple; did they also feel comfy enough that they didn't need to obtain a legal marriage license either?
Hopefully this helps makes this discussion a little more clear.