I think we discussed this already…..DNA was not the only reason people were cleared. Handwriting samples, alibis, lack of evidence, etc. it’s cumulative.
That’s your opinion that there’s no evidence of an intruder. If peoples alibis of being asleep and not matching the dna is enough to exclude them then the same should be applied to the Ramseys. Johns handwriting was also no match. Patsy’s score of 4.5 means probably not- not match. I don’t believe there any evidence the Ramsey’s did it. But again, that’s my opinion.
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Can you please point to the clear factual evidence out there, that will only point to an intruder and will not leave any room for other options? I have not seen any.
For me, I just don’t want to (or can’t) believe the Ramseys did that to their own child. It’s just unfathomable- I know it happens, but my brain just can’t wrap my head around it. So, until the question can be answered as to who the unknown male’s DNA is on the crotch of JBRs panties, my mind cannot go full-on into the RDI club.
? What exactly was JRs role at Lockheed Martin? Who could he have scorned/embarassed/humiliated to have wanted to seek retribution?
I agree, time is not on the side of solving this case, and police inexperience destroyed the original scene. It’s essentially unsolvable to me, but I have enjoyed everyone’s takes on the case.
My opinion is until everything is released , we will never know.
Clear factual evidence is open to interpretation. The evidence that indicates there was an intruder is the foreign DNA. The ransom note. Then there’s the evidence put together by Lou smit, The suitcase under the basement window, the scuff mark on the basement wall below the window. The foliage from above the window grate found underneath the window grate. Packing peanuts dirt and debris from the window well on the floor of the basement. I haven’t seen any clear factual evidence that points to the Ramsey’s either. If there was, they would have been charged by now in my opinion.
From what I understand, the blue fibres found on JonBenet were thought to have come from a blue towel and they think she was wiped down with a blue towel. I don’t think there was evidence of being wiped with a paper napkin. She did have dried blood on her perineum and labia majora. And dried and semi fluid blood on her fourchette and in the vestibule. I know she was swabbed but I’m not sure if the body swabs detected the unknown male dna in or around her vaginal skin. I haven’t been able to find those reports. The unknown male dna found in her intimate region was only found within the bloodstains on jonbenets underpants. It was a small amount of DNA but according to Mitch Morresey, it was an almost complete profile. No foreign dna was found in between the blood spots. Anything is possible until they find out whose DNA it is and why it’s there. It could be possible the dna was left over from a previous assault and that’s why the deposit was so small but I try not to speculate because there are so many possibilities but there’s no proof. She wet her pants which might have washed away or diluted some blood/DNA evidence.
I'm always curious when people say they can't imagine the Ramseys doing it. You also say you know it happens, so let me ask--why do you think it couldn't have been them?
The parents who do much worse to their kids usually have a history of abuse though, or some dealings with child protection services etc. the Ramseys didn’t have a history of anything. It’s completely out of character. They never even spanked any of their kids. The kids had Nannie’s and housekeepers, if there was past abuse the home help would have seen it. It’s completely out of character that they’d do something like this. If the aftermath was staged, why was she wiped down? Wouldn’t you want it to look as real as possible if you were staging a sexual assault?
They had no KNOWN history. No one knows happens in families behind closed doors.
No, not at all actually… it’s because I don’t have all of the details of the other cases of family sexually assaulting and murdering their own child. However, with so many details in the case, I am forced to face the nature of such cruel and depraved acts. This, combined with the fact that I have children, makes it just so difficult to wrap my head around somebody could bash their own child with a flashlight (or whatever), strangle them while sexually assaulting them and then murdering them. I just can’t fathom it (I can’t fathom how anybody can do it no matter what their social, financial, political standing is in this world). I hope that makes sense. I think crap like this may even happen MORE in wealthy families, but they get away with it. I hope that all makes sense.
For the longest time I just could not believe that PR could have harmed her child in such a brutal manner. It was the SA of JB that ruled her out in my mind. JR? Oh, yes, I had no problem believing him capable, but not PR.
Burke and johns older children have said they never experienced abuse. They said they never even got spanked. They’ve always maintained patsy was an amazing mother and they say the same about John too. There’s no history of abuse, friends of the family have always maintained that John and patsy were loving and caring towards the children. Burke was in counselling after the murder and also had interviews with psychologists for the police and no abuse was ever suspected by the psychologists and burke ajways maintained there was none. Psychologists know how to speak to children and do abuse evaluations. There was no evidence of abuse of any kind.
Respectfully, I disagree. They are a wealthy and powerful family and they chose who could and could not speak to BR.
That’s only your opinion. It doesn’t change the fact that burke was in counselling and spoke to psychologists at the child advocacy centre arranged by the boulder police. No evidence of abuse of any kind was suspected or found. Burke and his older siblings have also spoken publicly and affirmed they never experienced any forms of abuse by their parents.
