Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #3

[Simply Southern]

This! I know of many grandparents who have custody of one or more of the grandchildren that have been taken away due to drug abuse. And they just keep having MORE babies, bringing more innocent lives into the world. They won’t take responsibility for birth control! Some of these Moms have given up to 4 babies! Time for sterilization.

I agree sterilization is the answer. Its against our constitutional right. Virginia just paid the last of the claims for sterilization of patients in the state mental hospitals. That's one of the reasons Virginia is closing all state run long term
hospitals.

I worked in assistant living back in the early 80s, when the state MHs started discharging to the community. The state paid all kind of extra money to take these folks. So we load up a team and pick out 10 for our AL. It was a nightmare. The women would refuse birth control and were earning money on a regular basis from our men folks. The mens families were enraged. We were petrified one would become pregnant, so we returned all the women.

 

[Trudie]

I hope she’s receiving medical care. As unhealthy as she is, the baby is probably better off monitored en utero for a few more weeks.

Pregnant or Breastfeeding Women and Methadone
Women who are pregnant or breastfeeding can safely take methadone. When withdrawal from an abused drug happens to a pregnant woman, it causes the uterus to contract and may bring on miscarriage or premature birth. Methadone’s ability to prevent withdrawal symptoms helps pregnant women better manage their addiction while avoiding health risks to both mother and baby.

Undergoing methadone maintenance treatment while pregnant will not cause birth defects, but some babies may go through withdrawal after birth. This does not mean that the baby is addicted. Infant withdrawal usually begins a few days after birth but may begin two to four weeks after birth.

Methadone | SAMHSA - Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration

Well, they can safely take it, as prescribed. They can’t take it in triple doses or mixed with other drugs.
They know from her track marks if she still used prior to arrest. Of course the obvious drug tests were administered, imo.

 

[kaen]

Did AFsr fall madly in love with JC, unable to walk away from her? I don’t understand their relationship.

If I recall correctly, there was a information reported that he had walked around the home in a uniform waving a weapon--possibly in relation to the custody case of the older child. I would guess that he has not been as on the straight and narrow before meeting this woman. Even if she was the most mesmerizing woman in the world, I can't see a fully functioning adult sliding into drug use, child abuse, hoarding and general dysfunction so easily. My thinking is that he was marginally functioning before with possible alcohol and substance abuse issues and meeting her exacerbated his dysfunction.

People who get together through drug abuse or alcohol abuse do not usually have normal functioning relationships.

 

[Simply Southern]

Well, they can safely take it, as prescribed. They can’t take it in triple doses or mixed with other drugs.
They know from her track marks if she still used prior to arrest. Of course the obvious drug tests were administered, imo.

In jail, all meds are dispensed by a nurse, EMT or Med Tec. She has no choice but to take as prescribed.
She maybe be receiving treatment for nauseous/ or IVs for dehydration at the ER to help her thru.

If she needed inpatient withdrawal for the babies sake, she would be admitted. I've had several clients admitted and even have surgery while incarcerated. They are handcuffed to the bed and have a guard the entire stay.

 

[Herat]

During WD, the last thing she wants is ice cream, or any food. She only wants drugs.

The sickness experienced during WD is a deterrent to many that do try to detox.

This is one of the root causes of the mess the oxycodone creates. Unlike other narcotics like codeine that are not normaly addictive in the amounts that used to be given out for surgical or dental pain, oxycodone is highly addictive. There rise of oxycodone co-incided with an edict to all hospitals that pain was the "fifth vital sign" and hospitals were reviewed on the pain relief that patients required. They couldn't risk low scores so physicians and hospitals would push giving pain meds. Oxycodone was so effective it became the narcotic analgesic of choice and was given out very freely, as if it was codeine.
But physicians and hospitals were not really told by the manufacturers how dramatically addictive it was and created a whole generation of normal citizens who became addicts. One of the surgeons I know told me she was sure she created addicts from those days when she had to keep giving patients these rx's.

Even when addicted, opiate addicts can function quite well. They hold jobs, they take care of their kids, they participate in school activities, they have normal friends. If they titer themselves well, they aren't nodding off inappropriately and are not creating violence around them like meth addicts do. Think of "opium dens". However, the withdrawl from narcotics is so severe, as described above, they will do anything to stop going into withdrawl. Anything. So when their doctor stops the Rx, they go to the street. And heroin is easy and cheap. This is how the 50 year old female office worker who had a hysterectomy and was given exended post-op pain rx becomes a heroin addict. If they could stave off withdrawl with Rx meds they would. If they cant get them or afford them, they turn to the street because withdrawl is so very bad.

The only cure is very controlled withdrawl with support from addiction specialists. And that is expensive and not always easy to get into. That's only part of why so many fail multiple times.

Here's a good article about the start of the opiate epidemic

The fifth vital sign: A complex story of politics and patient care

And here is the most damning sentence: "In a recent CNN report on the opioid epidemic, it was noted that the Joint Commission published a book in 2000 for purchase by doctors as part of required continuing education seminars, and that the book cited studies claiming “there is no evidence that addiction is a significant issue when persons are given opioids for pain control.” According to the CNN report, the book was sponsored by a manufacturer of narcotic analgesics. "

That's right: Doctors were required to consider opiates non-addictive for pain control, as written by the very same drug manufacturers

 

[Danaya]

Because of my profession, I am legally obligated to report suspected child abuse. I have reported a few times and every time, the child was left in the home. In one situation the child confided the abuse he suffered at the hands of his mother to me and I immediately phoned it in. Guess what? He, along with his 6 other siblings, were left in the home after an 'investigation' which only consisted of a brief visitor from a social worker. This wasn't even the first time a person reported her! It's sickening the abuse that occurs unpunished and it ends up in this.

 

[MyBelle]

Well, dang I learn something new everyday!!! I did check Virginia and we do offer training to LE and social workers. It's 5 day course, teaches interview skills.

Now here is a problem, why did DCPS, the ER Dr, and LE not know about this service. That's 3 professionals that failed.

There is no way they didn't know about these resources but it appears that no one cared and there apparently are no consequences for failure to do your job.

The "why?" is the question everyone wants answered. There is no excuse for the massive failure to protect AJ.

There needs to be a criminal investigation. Were the caseworkers being paid in drugs to look the other way?

JMO

 

[Trudie]

In jail, all meds are dispensed by a nurse, EMT or Med Tec. She has no choice but to take as prescribed.
She maybe be receiving treatment for nauseous/ or IVs for dehydration at the ER to help her thru.

If she needed inpatient withdrawal for the babies sake, she would be admitted. I've had several clients admitted and even have surgery while incarcerated. They are handcuffed to the bed and have a guard the entire stay.

I know the meds are dispensed in jails, prisons, schools & hospitals. Idk if she was on a methadone program during her pregnancy. Yes, I had many addicts requiring hospitalization for a host of reasons.
Again, I’m sure she was hospitalized, shortly after her arrest. She’s considered innocent and even if guilty is entitled to medical care. Personally, to give the baby the best start, I hope she is in the hospital for the remainder of her pregnancy. Considering the filth this woman existed in, she posed a health risk to the jail, the staff & other inmates. She needs to be tested for Aids, hep, TB & every other communicable disease, imo.

 

[Trudie]

There is no way they didn't know about these resources but it appears that no one cared and there apparently are no consequences for failure to do your job.

The "why?" is the question everyone wants answered. There is no excuse for the massive failure to protect AJ.

There needs to be a criminal investigation. Were the caseworkers being paid in drugs to look the other way?

JMO

And the same thing is happening in how many homes at this very moment? Some cases will end as this did, some will never end, until the child reaches adulthood, moving on.

 

[Trudie]

This is one of the root causes of the mess the oxycodone creates. Unlike other narcotics like codeine that are not normaly addictive in the amounts that used to be given out for surgical or dental pain, oxycodone is highly addictive. There rise of oxycodone co-incided with an edict to all hospitals that pain was the "fifth vital sign" and hospitals were reviewed on the pain relief that patients required. They couldn't risk low scores so physicians and hospitals would push giving pain meds. Oxycodone was so effective it became the narcotic analgesic of choice and was given out very freely, as if it was codeine.
But physicians and hospitals were not really told by the manufacturers how dramatically addictive it was and created a whole generation of normal citizens who became addicts. One of the surgeons I know told me she was sure she created addicts from those days when she had to keep giving patients these rx's.

Even when addicted, opiate addicts can function quite well. They hold jobs, they take care of their kids, they participate in school activities, they have normal friends. If they titer themselves well, they aren't nodding off inappropriately and are not creating violence around them like meth addicts do. Think of "opium dens". However, the withdrawl from narcotics is so severe, as described above, they will do anything to stop going into withdrawl. Anything. So when their doctor stops the Rx, they go to the street. And heroin is easy and cheap. This is how the 50 year old female office worker who had a hysterectomy and was given exended post-op pain rx becomes a heroin addict. If they could stave off withdrawl with Rx meds they would. If they cant get them or afford them, they turn to the street because withdrawl is so very bad.

The only cure is very controlled withdrawl with support from addiction specialists. And that is expensive and not always easy to get into. That's why so many fail multiple times.

Here's a good article about the start of the opiate epidemic

The fifth vital sign: A complex story of politics and patient care

And here is the most damning sentence: "In a recent CNN report on the opioid epidemic, it was noted that the Joint Commission published a book in 2000 for purchase by doctors as part of required continuing education seminars, and that the book cited studies claiming “there is no evidence that addiction is a significant issue when persons are given opioids for pain control.” According to the CNN report, the book was sponsored by a manufacturer of narcotic analgesics. "

That's right: Doctors were required to consider opiates non-addictive for pain control, as written by the very same drug manufacturers

Some get so violently ill, they resort to using any drug they can get to alleviate the vomiting.
Here, addicts being monitored resort to ‘plugging’ (sorry) thinking they can beat the drug tests.
At times, I feel like more people are using than not, in my area. It is sad but don’t feel sorry for them, unless you want to be used.
I see no end to it.

 

[Simply Southern]

There is no way they didn't know about these resources but it appears that no one cared and there apparently are no consequences for failure to do your job.

The "why?" is the question everyone wants answered. There is no excuse for the massive failure to protect AJ.

There needs to be a criminal investigation. Were the caseworkers being paid in drugs to look the other way?

JMO

LE had custody of him and took him to the hospital. Why did LE not take him to the forensic clinic? He should've driven him right over when the Dr. couldn't help. Lets not leave LE out of responsibly, they have more instant authority than CPS. They may have found the body and great job on breaking down the parents, but ....

LE has supervisors, when they didn't know what to do or could not achieve an outcome they should have involved them. At any point LE could have gone to the DA and said, help us what do we need to get help kids. They could have reported CPS!!!! They had resources and now packs the blame on CPS. LE doesn't want to deal with child abuse, complaints in dogs, noise violations, minor stuff. These are patrol officers they don't want to spend the day in the ER, when they can be chasing criminals.

 

[Trudie]

LE had custody of him and took him to the hospital. Why did LE not take him to the forensic clinic? He should've driven him right over when the Dr. couldn't help. Lets not leave LE out of responsibly, they have more instant authority than CPS. They may have found the body and great job on breaking down the parents, but ....

LE has supervisors, when they didn't know what to do or could not achieve an outcome they should have involved them. At any point LE could have gone to the DA and said, help us what do we need to get help kids. They could have reported CPS!!!! They had resources and now packs the blame on CPS. LE doesn't want to deal with child abuse, complaints in dogs, noise violations, minor stuff. These are patrol officers they don't want to spend the day in the ER, when they can be chasing criminals.

I wonder what kind of reaction little AJ had when they returned him?
Do you think LE felt intimidated by Sr being an atty?
This is all just so incomprehensible.........
I just want JC to deliver the baby, then go away, forever.
I don't care if she gets help or not, where she’s gonna be for the rest of her life, her state of mind is irrelevant.

 

[kaen]

I wonder what kind of reaction little AJ had when they returned him?
Do you think LE felt intimidated by Sr being an atty?
This is all just so incomprehensible.........
I just want JC to deliver the baby, then go away, forever.
I don't care if she gets help or not, where she’s gonna be for the rest of her life, her state of mind is irrelevant.

I doubt that AJ ever thought he would be taken out of the hell hole he lived in. He had no reason to think he was going anywhere. Unfortunately, he never had cognizant understanding of what a non-abusive, non-negligent home looked like.

I don't think the LE felt at all intimidated. Look at the visual of this man when he was interviewd while walking through the neighborhood. It is clear that he is not intimidating or even together enough to create a cohesive plan. I think the issue was that if the child said he was hit by a belt and it was below the waist they were on shaky ground as to if the injury was battery or a parent disciplining their child. Unfortunate, I know but I think this was the thinking.

 

[MyBelle]

LE had custody of him and took him to the hospital. Why did LE not take him to the forensic clinic? He should've driven him right over when the Dr. couldn't help. Lets not leave LE out of responsibly, they have more instant authority than CPS. They may have found the body and great job on breaking down the parents, but ....

LE has supervisors, when they didn't know what to do or could not achieve an outcome they should have involved them. At any point LE could have gone to the DA and said, help us what do we need to get help kids. They could have reported CPS!!!! They had resources and now packs the blame on CPS. LE doesn't want to deal with child abuse, complaints in dogs, noise violations, minor stuff. These are patrol officers they don't want to spend the day in the ER, when they can be chasing criminals.

I'm not going to fault LE on this case. It was DCFS'
responsibility and they have admitted they failed miserably.

"Wouldn't this raise red flags immediately?" said Rep. Anna Moeller. "There was no court involved here, DCFS never went to the court to ask he be taken out of that environment. It was allowed to persist."

A DCFS official admitted missteps in the case, saying the DCFS investigators should have further interviewed the boy, and the case should have been referred to a child abuse specialist for a second opinion because the doctor couldn't determine the nature of the injury.

Illinois boy found slain told ER doctor of possible abuse, welfare records show

 

[Simply Southern]

There is no way they didn't know about these resources but it appears that no one cared and there apparently are no consequences for failure to do your job.

The "why?" is the question everyone wants answered. There is no excuse for the massive failure to protect AJ.

There needs to be a criminal investigation. Were the caseworkers being paid in drugs to look the other way?

JMO

Yes, a full investigation!!!! I live in an upscale community, with neighbors who have a drug addicted son. I and several neighbors personally call LE for emergency assistance when he beat then the 4 yo for setting a tree on fire and we could hear the screams. LE showed up to investigate, then gave the neighbors and update. He said, Yes, he said he beat his kid *advertiser censored** because he set the tree on fire and left. I had a fit!!! I called and requested a supervisor, who showed up immediately, the kids where gone at this point. He made the kids return checked and questions each one and reported to CPS, who were here within an hour. The baby mama's had to come pick up kids immediately and he was charged. Now that's how the system is suppose to work.

I filed a complaint with VA State police. It was determined he never completed any paperwork nor did he have his camera on when talking to the father but did have it on when us neighbors were complaining to him. Try calling LE and see how patrol officers handle child abuse. Imo and experience.

 

[Trudie]

IMO, when history of abuse exists, everyone needs to get on the same page & consider it is occurring again. Act now, investigate later. At least the child can be in a safe environment.

 

[Trudie]

Yes, a full investigation!!!! I live in an upscale community, with neighbors who have a drug addicted son. I and several neighbors personally call LE for emergency assistance when he beat then the 4 yo for setting a tree on fire and we could hear the screams. LE showed up to investigate, then gave the neighbors and update. He said, Yes, he said he beat his kid *advertiser censored** because he set the tree on fire and left. I had a fit!!! I called and requested a supervisor, who showed up immediately, the kids where gone at this point. He made the kids return checked and questions each one and reported to CPS, who were here within an hour. The baby mama's had to come pick up kids immediately and he was charged. Now that's how the system is suppose to work.

I filed a complaint with VA State police. It was determined he never completed any paperwork nor did he have his camera on when talking to the father but did have it on when us neighbors were complaining to him. Try calling LE and see how patrol officers handle child abuse. Imo and experience.

Same way in my town. But call about a Hispanic male with a license plate light out, 12 patrol cars are on it!

(Refreshing myself on msm articles. Omg, the condition of the house after LE searched it upset her? Really?). I can’t imagine what her family thinks of her..............

 

[MyBelle]

Yes, a full investigation!!!! I live in an upscale community, with neighbors who have a drug addicted son. I and several neighbors personally call LE for emergency assistance when he beat then the 4 yo for setting a tree on fire and we could hear the screams. LE showed up to investigate, then gave the neighbors and update. He said, Yes, he said he beat his kid *advertiser censored** because he set the tree on fire and left. I had a fit!!! I called and requested a supervisor, who showed up immediately, the kids where gone at this point. He made the kids return checked and questions each one and reported to CPS, who were here within an hour. The baby mama's had to come pick up kids immediately and he was charged. Now that's how the system is suppose to work.

I filed a complaint with VA State police. It was determined he never completed any paperwork nor did he have his camera on when talking to the father but did have it on when us neighbors were complaining to him. Try calling LE and see how patrol officers handle child abuse. Imo and experience.

afaik, the Illinois State Police played no role in AJ's previous child abuse investigations.

 

[1&2&3]

My guess is the CPS caseworkers in the majority of cases in the US do not do competent work!

They know how difficult it is to remove a child from a family. They go thru everything possible when they first begin their job. After so many defeats, a person becomes callous and accepts the fact the judge hearing these cases won’t remove children.

So, their work begins to slip, their calls are falsely reported, and no one catches on or cares until a tragedy like AJ happens.

The supervisor, department manager, whatever the head is called is interested in making the number of calls / contacts they have been given. Forget the quality of the calls! JMO

 

[Simply Southern]

afaik, the Illinois State Police played no role in AJ's previous child abuse investigations.

I realize that but, if LE is not following the rules, complaints against LE are filed and investigated by the State Police.
I filed against an officer that looked the other way on child abuse. He was reprimanded and later quit. Heck, we had to get a LE supervisor on a child that was beaten. Patrol officers do not want to deal with this kinda stuff.