Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #4

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Can someone help me with info? I keep reading here that AJ was burned by having boiling water poured on him. But I’ve never seen any msm reports about this, nor info in the DCFS reports I’ve read.

Does anyone know the source of this info? TIA.

There is no reports of that or it would’ve been on the timeline even if LE took him. That sounds like a big deal and if it happened that would have been on a timeline. Joann told her neighbor she took him to the hospital for it, but I read that happened on halloween 2017 and I have not seen 1 report regarding that. But, I believe it happened. On another topic though unrelated I think that neighbor Kindve makes up stories as she goes. Every time she heard something new she would claim something new.
 
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By all means we wish to not violate their rights.
So <modsnip> disgusting.
My sympathy to anyone that has to put up a vigorous defense to either animal.
I could not look at either, I’d be ill. Or, I’d be charged with attempted murder.
Attempted? Mine would be murder!
 
Try not to judge me here as I’m embarrassed and honest. My 5 year old son was sick one day out of school and I worked nights several years ago, I was a single parent. We were napping and a little while later the police and child services is at the door with my child who escaped out my window as there were deadbolts on the door. I felt so horrible about it and very embarrassed at myself as a parent. But child services was not kind or lenient to me. They let me keep my child but I had an open case for like 6-8 weeks and them coming to my house every 2-3 days and sometimes they would just do a surprise visit, and I had to take drug tests at their request as their rules. They closed the case as I never had an issues within those 6 weeks, the house was clean(it was when they came), no drug use which wasn’t even an issue and I got alarms for my windows. I’m not upset with them for being concerned about my child. Embarrassed yes because I felt like I failed my child, but why do they not do this for all cases/allegations?

Glad things worked out in your case.
I think JC dodged DCFS as much as she could. For obvious reasons they both knew not to open the front door to anyone, unless they had advance notice.
Again, I hope none of her family ever speak with her, she deserves zero support. She declined support for years, support that would have prevented her from murdering her helpless child & neglecting (or worse) the other.
Now, she’ll want “support”, of course. And sympathy. She will lie, blame Drew or the dog.
I assume if she ever started beating P his injuries would have been blamed on AJ.
 
Can someone help me with info? I keep reading here that AJ was burned by having boiling water poured on him. But I’ve never seen any msm reports about this, nor info in the DCFS reports I’ve read.

Does anyone know the source of this info? TIA.
Both the neighbor and the friend of JC said they were told by JC about the boiling water.


She claimed not to have seen any bruises on AJ or his little brother, but saw scars on the victim’s face a year ago.

Cunningham said this was due to AJ getting boiling water on himself, the friend said.

AJ Freund’s Parents Allegedly Waited a Half-Hour After Friend Urged Them to Call 911
 
Glad things worked out in your case.
I think JC dodged DCFS as much as she could. For obvious reasons they both knew not to open the front door to anyone, unless they had advance notice.
Again, I hope none of her family ever speak with her, she deserves zero support. She declined support for years, support that would have prevented her from murdering her helpless child & neglecting (or worse) the other.
Now, she’ll want “support”, of course. And sympathy. She will lie, blame Drew or the dog.
I assume if she ever started beating P his injuries would have been blamed on AJ.

It would’ve been a red flag to me if I was a cop and she wouldn’t have allowed me to step in. Just saying. I read she did that and the cop noted he saw the kids happy. Kids are genuinely happy and parents can manipulate them to act whatever way they want to. Kids also don’t have the memory we do so they can’t remember things as well. My stepmom slapped me in the face with her big diamond ring once and it cut my face and I don’t actually remember the slap, so when asked about it I didn’t remember. The only reason I know is because someone else was there. This whole story really upsets me with the lack of knowledge that could’ve saved this sweet boy.
 
I agree, but some ppl are hard headed and don’t realize their actions until it is too late. I’m def not defending these monsters, but if that child did in fact have O.D.D that she thought he had she might have actually passed that gene to him and that would explain her own violent behavior. My son has ADHD/possible ODD and his dr said it can be in a genetic line and my son is very very impulsive. Her house being the way it is, there’s clearly something wrong in her mind to think that is ok.
She’s a junkie. He’s a junkie, hence the condition of the home.
 
Do any of you think JC will receive a jailhouse visit from Her mom or A?

I hope she does not. IMO, it’s too easy for family to forgive or to believe their relative is being blamed for actions of another.

I think they know it’s her fault. However, JC is still her daughter and A’s mother. They will always have some love for her. I would think they will visit her at some point. I had to cut off contact with my own father due to his abusive behavior...I miss him everyday. The logical part of me knows he’s not good for me and never was, but the child in me still loves him and wishes he could love me like a father should love their children. He even send me a short handwritten note stating “I’m sorry I don’t know how to love. I wish I could.” He came from a heinously abusive childhood where he watched his mother beaten and his father hit him daily and told him he was worthless. He unfortunately turned out only slightly better than his own father. I still love him so much. It’s hard to explain, but I have gone years with no contact and even though I know it’s for the best...I think about him often.


Try not to judge me here as I’m embarrassed and honest. My 5 year old son was sick one day out of school and I worked nights several years ago, I was a single parent. We were napping and a little while later the police and child services is at the door with my child who escaped out my window as there were deadbolts on the door. I felt so horrible about it and very embarrassed at myself as a parent. But child services was not kind or lenient to me. They let me keep my child but I had an open case for like 6-8 weeks and them coming to my house every 2-3 days and sometimes they would just do a surprise visit, and I had to take drug tests at their request as their rules. They closed the case as I never had an issues within those 6 weeks, the house was clean(it was when they came), no drug use which wasn’t even an issue and I got alarms for my windows. I’m not upset with them for being concerned about my child. Embarrassed yes because I felt like I failed my child, but why do they not do this for all cases/allegations?

I once had a false CPS allegation made against me. It was ludicrous. Someone reported they saw me at my 6 year old son’s school refusing to wipe his bottom after he did number two. They said I forced a staff member to carry him to my car because “he was dirty and I don’t want to touch him”. Most bizzare story. Anyway, the caseworker went to his school first and interviewed him alone and then came to my home. I opened the door and she explained the situation. I laughed out loud, it was my first reaction. I asked her if she’d talked to my son and she laughed a little and said yes.

I asked her what he said and he told her “What? I’m 6 years old! I know how to wipe my own butt!” Then she said “Oh I know you’re a big boy but if you did need help cleaning or bathing would your mommy help you?” He looked at her thoughtfully and said “Well, one time I was playing Minecraft and it takes so long to wipe my bottom I asked my mom to do it because she’s faster and she did!” Haha! The caseworker and I both laughed. She said he appeared happy, clean and intelligent.

She came in and we talked. My house was spotless as always. She said it sounded ridiculous especially after she talked to my son and she sort of groaned and was apologetic. She told me I’d get a letter within four weeks. I did not so I called her to follow up and she said the report was closed as unfounded and they didn’t even send a findings letter because it wasn’t even necessary to take it there. This was last year.

Still have no idea who or why someone would make such a weird report. I was glad they talked to my child alone at school first. This way they knew for sure I couldn’t have coached him what to say. I always think it’s crazy when I hear of caseworkers talking to caregivers first and then the children as if this doesn’t give the caregiver the opportunity to scare the child into lying.
 
She’s a junkie. He’s a junkie, hence the condition of the home.

Right, nothing mattered to them except their next dosage, where to get it, how much they could afford & how fast they could get a good dopamine rush.
Since Drew was the bread winner, she may have beat AJ when Drew would not provide money/drugs. Just because she could.
 
@Stunned I should have clarified, if I had to deliver a food tray or escort her to the shower, I could not. I would lose all self control.
Me too! I just couldn’t!
Following all these children cases just get more horrific than the last.
I always swear never again will I follow another and yet here I am.
The worse ones, if you can call them that, is when the child has been failed by the system that is supposed to protect him/her.
 
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And who believes he did that to himself? Not me.

She lied about taking him to the hospital. That would’ve raised high red flags. Omg. If my kid wouldve had scalding like that I would have to rush to hospital. I’m surprised A.J. didn’t get an infection with it, especially with the filth in the house. I would’ve had to report that if I was suspicious of child abuse like her neighbor claimed they all were.
 
Hopefully we will get a transcript of her previous call with DN, the call she tells him AJ is missing.

If he’s the dad of the unborn baby, he’s gonna want in on custody, just wait.
No doubt in my mind!
 
I think they know it’s her fault. However, JC is still her daughter and A’s mother. They will always have some love for her. I would think they will visit her at some point. I had to cut off contact with my own father due to his abusive behavior...I miss him everyday. The logical part of me knows he’s not good for me and never was, but the child in me still loves him and wishes he could love me like a father should love their children. He even send me a short handwritten note stating “I’m sorry I don’t know how to love. I wish I could.” He came from a heinously abusive childhood where he watched his mother beaten and his father hit him daily and told him he was worthless. He unfortunately turned out only slightly better than his own father. I still love him so much. It’s hard to explain, but I have gone years with no contact and even though I know it’s for the best...I think about him often.




I once had a false CPS allegation made against me. It was ludicrous. Someone reported they saw me at my 6 year old son’s school refusing to wipe his bottom after he did number two. They said I forced a staff member to carry him to my car because “he was dirty and I don’t want to touch him”. Most bizzare story. Anyway, the caseworker went to his school first and interviewed him alone and then came to my home. I opened the door and she explained the situation. I laughed out loud, it was my first reaction. I asked her if she’d talked to my son and she laughed a little and said yes.

I asked her what he said and he told her “What? I’m 6 years old! I know how to wipe my own butt!” Then she said “Oh I know you’re a big boy but if you did need help cleaning or bathing would your mommy help you?” He looked at her thoughtfully and said “Well, one time I was playing Minecraft and it takes so long to wipe my bottom I asked my mom to do it because she’s faster and she did!” Haha! The caseworker and I both laughed. She said he appeared happy, clean and intelligent.

She came in and we talked. My house was spotless as always. She said it sounded ridiculous especially after she talked to my son and she sort of groaned and was apologetic. She told me I’d get a letter within four weeks. I did not so I called her to follow up and she said the report was closed as unfounded and they didn’t even send a findings letter because it wasn’t even necessary to take it there. This was last year.

Still have no idea who or why someone would make such a weird report. I was glad they talked to my child alone at school first. This way they knew for sure I couldn’t have coached him what to say. I always think it’s crazy when I hear of caseworkers talking to caregivers first and then the children as if this doesn’t give the caregiver the opportunity to scare the child into lying.

Mine had evidence of my parenting failure sadly. I know there’s worse out there, but they should treat more cases the way they treated mine. And talk to the child first before the parent. Sadly, I think many after a beating a parent will tell a child they’re sorry and not to tell anyone.
 
@RainCheck That is funny. Maybe they got the wrong kid?
I know it is common for DCFS to receive false claims by vindictive friends & relatives, in my county. The cases they get are not cases as severe as AJ’s, those parents are far too clever (like JC) to be in public at the wrong time, or to be in social situations. Therefore, the abused are not seen unless they are bruise fre, beat & clean, smiling happily just to be out of the house.
 
No doubt in my mind!

If JC’s family ends up with the baby, they may wind up dealing with the bio dad for 18 years.
If DN is the dad, idk how his criminality might come in to play, or if it will. It was okay for Drew to practice law, shoplift, use drugs & JC to do the same plus abuse children.
 
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