IN - Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #164

[FrostedGlass]

Something new today:

07/05/2023

Correspondence to/from Court Filed Westville Correctional Inmate letter. File Stamp: 07/05/2023

 

[twall]

Something new today:

07/05/2023

Correspondence to/from Court Filed Westville Correctional Inmate letter. File Stamp: 07/05/2023

Hmmmm...RB again?

 

[FrostedGlass]

Hmmmm...RB again?

Maybe McLeland found another snitch willing to rat out RB?

 

[minazoe]

Shirt trail, fanny pack, sweatshirt.... whatever that brown thing was around his waist, did we see anything in the search warrant return that might be indicative of that item?

we about lost our minds over that dang fanny pack!!! lol. mOO

 

[LadyL]

"Exactly" isn't possible as his face is not clear enough. However, the proportions and body type/the way his clothes fit, combined with his head/face blurry image, that we now have seen, certainly do look like him. I think that those that were "married" to the idea that BG was KK, TK, RL, BC, and a number of others, wanted it to be them so badly that they ignored the first FBI estimate of BG's height. I remember arguing with other members that KK couldn't be BG due to his large frame/weight and height. I think there are still those that are so invested in KK being involved, that they can't let go of their original theories. To me, this is ignoring that sexually motivated killers almost always have a well-hidden, private (not shared) imagined event that won't go away, even if they have resisted acting on it for years. They act on their own, they watch and wait until the right victim is in the right place at the right time. That is an important part of the build-up. Other times he walked there and looked for an opportunity. That can't be orchestrated by someone else.

I wasn't married to the idea of any of the earlier 'suspects'. I have no doubt this is an appropriate arrest based on factors other than the bridge guy photo.

 

[LadyL]

The only thing I got from the bridge photo was he was white, not tall and had a big nose

yep ITA

 

[twall]

Maybe McLeland found another snitch willing to rat out RB?

Hopefully someone (MS?) will get the details and let us know...I was in Ft. Wayne today, if I would have known I could have went to the courthouse and looked for it!

 

[FrostedGlass]

Here's a new Murder Sheet podcast:

The Delphi Murders: The Honorable Judge Fran Gull Presiding: Part Two: ‘Complete Control of the Courtroom’

A core group of important figures have arisen in the Delphi case, as it winds through the criminal justice system. Judge Fran Gull will preside over the trial, and the pre-trial hearings. Nicholas McLeland, the prosecutor of Carroll County, will speak for the state. And defense attorneys Brad...

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[x_files]

I’m wondering if foot prints made by RA may not have been collected since they were so small LE may have assumed they were made by other teens.

What size are his feet? shoe size? I somehow missed this detail!
No wonder he had trouble walking across the bridge.

 

[twall]

What size are his feet? shoe size? I somehow missed this detail!
No wonder he had trouble walking across the bridge.

I was just looking at the items seized during the search and it says Timberland boots size 8, dirty Thorogood boots size 7.5 mens, dirty black boots size 6.5 regular.

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https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2023/06/DelphiDocumentsCombined.pdf

 

[Slawsb]

Looking at the pics of their house for sale on Zillow sure makes looks like his wife ran out the door with nothing but what she was wearing IMO. Poor thing. One shows a closet full of her clothing and jewelry, another shows what appears to be the dogs bowl of food on the floor (Pg 16).

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1967 N Whiteman Dr, Delphi, IN 46923 | Zillow

1967 N Whiteman Dr, Delphi IN, is a Single Family home that contains 1575 sq ft and was built in 1999.It contains 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms.This home last sold for $255,000 in August 2023. The Zestimate for this Single Family is $273,500, which has increased by $12,532 in the last 30 days.The...

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weird to think he probably washed his bloody clothes in that washing machine...

 

[Slawsb]

To me he looks exactly like "bridge guy". We'll all have our differences and points of views. All that really matters is what LE and a jury thinks after reviewing the evidence. Then we'll have "justice for our girls".

and his voice is exactly the same too

 

[x_files]

I was just looking at the items seized during the search and it says Timberland boots size 8, dirty Thorogood boots size 7.5 mens, dirty black boots size 6.5 regular.

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https://fox59.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2023/06/DelphiDocumentsCombined.pdf

small feet, but he's not very tall though, but trying to walk on a rickety old bridge with small feet and a big beer belly no wonder his gait semed like a limp now.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

and his voice is exactly the same too

I've never heard his voice, is there a link you know of? TIA

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

I've never heard his voice, is there a link you know of? TIA

I heard his voice on some BookFace videos. I don’t know if somebody else has a link or not but I do not. Also, from listening to those videos, I don’t think his voice sounds like the infamous “Guys…DTH”, moo.

 

[Justice101]

I heard his voice on some BookFace videos. I don’t know if somebody else has a link or not but I do not. Also, from listening to those videos, I don’t think his voice sounds like the infamous “Guys…DTH”, moo.

I heard his voice when he was on the ski lift. He doesn't talk very much but I can hear the character of his voice even when he is less instructive when answering his wife there.

Excluding any audio comparison, I'm 95% sure they got the right guy

 

[arielilane]

I can't speak to why docs were not signed, dated or stamped; however, since we recently celebrated July 4th holiday, iirc, nobody signed the Declaration of Independence until August. Of course no comparison, just thought of it. MOO

 

[CGBSpender]

Looking at the pics of their house for sale on Zillow sure makes looks like his wife ran out the door with nothing but what she was wearing IMO. Poor thing. One shows a closet full of her clothing and jewelry, another shows what appears to be the dogs bowl of food on the floor (Pg 16).

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1967 N Whiteman Dr, Delphi, IN 46923 | Zillow

1967 N Whiteman Dr, Delphi IN, is a Single Family home that contains 1575 sq ft and was built in 1999.It contains 3 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms.This home last sold for $255,000 in August 2023. The Zestimate for this Single Family is $273,500, which has increased by $12,532 in the last 30 days.The...

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I think it is for a cat(s). The one looks like a cat water fountain bowl, and there is a litter box in the laundry room photo. Perhaps wherever she went was not cat friendly?

JMO

 

[Gemmie]

I think it is for a cat(s). The one looks like a cat water fountain bowl, and there is a litter box in the laundry room photo. Perhaps wherever she went was not cat friendly?

JMO

It looks more to me like she left the house with only the clothes on her back. I'd think if she gave the cat away she likely would have given the open bag of food as well. Most ads I see giving away cats include toys and food. Even if she gave the cat away you'd think she'd have picked up the bowl of food off the floor before leaving the house and (apparently, it seems) never returning again. Everything in that house looks like the occupants passed with everything as it was before their passing. All MOO

 

[girlhasnoname]

It looks more to me like she left the house with only the clothes on her back. I'd think if she gave the cat away she likely would have given the open bag of food as well. Most ads I see giving away cats include toys and food. Even if she gave the cat away you'd think she'd have picked up the bowl of food off the floor before leaving the house and (apparently, it seems) never returning again. Everything in that house looks like the occupants passed with everything as it was before their passing. All MOO

I wonder if she was in fear of her safety? I can definitely see that happening, not to mention the media swarm.

If my husband was arrested for the murder of 2 teenagers in one of the most high profile cases in IN, I would have snuck out with what I could carry and jam in a suitcase and my precious kitty.

MOO