Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #122

[soylattesandsleuthing]

Wow! A really good discussion here between one of the hosts of "True Crime Garage" and another podcast. Not the usual format for this podcast, but an interesting one. They pose different theories, the most interesting is at the end where the host of this podcast gives his thought on how a second person might be involved and relates it to why two victims were selected and not a single victim. Also some interesting thoughts on why this might be someone who has killed before based on information recently released on another podcast, "Down the Hill". Not that I agree with all of it, but it is interesting nonetheless. They do discuss rumors, but we can't address those here.
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I listened to this today and I also thought it was a good discussion. I took a break from this case for a while, and just found out about Tobe Leazenby saying they have DNA and a partial fingerprint from the crime scene.

All of the points they hit on in the episode are things that have made me pause and say “hmmm” as well. The discussion of the crime scene being “physically strange” and “at least 2-3 signatures” are at the top of “Things I Keep Mulling Over” list. I believe that crime scene must have been particularly horrifying, but the “strange” descriptor is what is throwing me off the most.

 

[HOPE770145]

I listened to this today and I also thought it was a good discussion. I took a break from this case for a while, and just found out about Tobe Leazenby saying they have DNA and a partial fingerprint from the crime scene.

All of the points they hit on in the episode are things that have made me pause and say “hmmm” as well. The discussion of the crime scene being “physically strange” and “at least 2-3 signatures” are at the top of “Things I Keep Mulling Over” list. I believe that crime scene must have been particularly horrifying, but the “strange” descriptor is what is throwing me off the most.

this is why people should be on death row, for crimes such as these IMO

 

[bernie78]

I have been listening to the new podcast Down the Hill by HLN. They play the news conference last year when the second sketch was revealed. (edited because my opinion has been disproved by law enforcement) Based on comments made at the press conference about how the girls are not now as the killer left them, I am strongly wondering if the killer left some sort of satanic signature at the scene. Especially because afterlife is mentioned as well. MOO

 

[insearchoflight]

I have been listening to the new podcast Down the Hill by HLN. They play the news conference last year when the second sketch was revealed. I'm just now realizing the that "Guys" and "down the hill" are two different people!! IMOO Also based on comments made at the press conference about how the girls are not now as the killer left them, I am strongly wondering if the killer left some sort of satanic signature at the scene. Especially because afterlife is mentioned as well. MOO

LE has stated very clearly it is one person. I think they have good reason to believe that.

 

[sunshineray]

Could be. But again - if they think it is a sick child killer, why do they say the public is safe?

LE has said many different and contradictory things to the public since February 13th 2017. Watch and know what you're children are up to but there's no danger to the public. That's just ridiculous if you think about it. Two children are murdered, outside in broad daylight, snatched from public trails system, we haven't arrested anyone but the public is safe? Crowd control, don't cause a panic baloney...IMO BG is a sick child killer, whether he's of sound mind or not...AJMO

 

[sunshineray]

Why do people say he was angry towards her?

By things supposedly said by certain family that unfortunately can't be linked here. Some also think that the fact that other family members of Libby (one of her Grandpas) comments in an article, that she put up quite a fight meant Libby was the more injured of the two girls.

 

[sunshineray]

LE has stated very clearly it is one person. I think they have good reason to believe that.

Sherriff has also stated differently. This was part of that article posted recently by screenshot.

'Leazenby stated the investigation is not "stalled". And it has not been determined if there was one or more perpetrators. "We go back and forth on that.", he said.'

 

[HOPE770145]

By things supposedly said by certain family that unfortunately can't be linked here. Some also think that the fact that other family members of Libby (one of her Grandpas) comments in an article, that she put up quite a fight meant Libby was the more injured of the two girls.

Sherriff has also stated differently. This was part of that article posted recently by screenshot.

LE has said many different and contradictory things to the public since February 13th 2017. Watch and know what you're children are up to but there's no danger to the public. That's just ridiculous if you think about it. Two children are murdered, outside in broad daylight, snatched from public trails system, we haven't arrested anyone but the public is safe? Crowd control, don't cause a panic baloney...IMO BG is a sick child killer, whether he's of sound mind or not...AJMO

there is clearly a serial killer in that state, that is preying on girls

 

[HOPE770145]

I have been listening to the new podcast Down the Hill by HLN. They play the news conference last year when the second sketch was revealed. (edited because my opinion has been disproved by law enforcement) Based on comments made at the press conference about how the girls are not now as the killer left them, I am strongly wondering if the killer left some sort of satanic signature at the scene. Especially because afterlife is mentioned as well. MOO

JMO
If there was another person they wouldn't have been on the bridge but maybe hiding in the brush or under the bridge, I certainly hope they checked everyone out who was under that bridge that day

 

[HOPE770145]

Of course this psycho is a child killer. He is more than likely a serial killer and violent sex offender with tons of victims all over the place. He may even be married, people need to start talking IMO If you are a significant other to one of these serial killers and you know that they are doing this as far as I am concerned they are accessories to the crime. Should be in jail also. No excuse for people killing children. IMHO

 

[Charlot123]

Did LE actually say "the public is safe?" Just curious, would be interested in seeing when they said that.

Is youtube an allowed resource? It was an interview with him

 

[MistyWaters]

Sherriff has also stated differently. This was part of that article posted recently by screenshot.

'Leazenby stated the investigation is not "stalled". And it has not been determined if there was one or more perpetrators. "We go back and forth on that.", he said.'

As far as the voice and the suspect captured by video on the bridge by Libby, LE believe it’s the same person.

BBM

“The new audio clip is a slightly extended version of the original, which was released days after the girls were murdered and includes the word "Guys" followed by "Down the Hill."

"Please keep in mind that the person talking is one person and is the person on the bridge with the girls" Carter said. "This is not two people speaking. Please listen to it very, very carefully."
Delphi Murders: ISP says new audio, video and sketch shows Libby & Abby’s killer

 

[ReadySet]

Who is "him?"

Is youtube an allowed resource? It was an interview with him

 

[rosesfromangels]

Looks a lot like BG

He looks like he posed for the sketch it's so similar!

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Carrie Ann]

Everyone Seems to have People in mind of who killed the Girls . That's why I believe fresh eyes would be amazing. I have seen many different types of options. What frustrates me is there is more evidence than we know. I really don't think this is a cold case. I personally believe that this is a tangled web of hidden secrets . I Just don't understand why they haven't gotten specialist in flieds trained to find that 1 piece of the puzzle. As the police say. I get frustrated and believe that Some other agency should look into the case. The Girls deserve Justice and the family deserves closer and Justice. I just want to see Justice. I have been benge watching news and Interviews and researching the case. I have not formed a opinion other than . Maybe some fresh eyes from some other agency might bring Justice and closer.

 

[carbuff]

I'm sorry, I'm loaded up on antihistamines for the spring pollen and my brain is not thinking very fast at the moment. What/who is/are flieds?

 

[soylattesandsleuthing]

Is youtube an allowed resource? It was an interview with him

During a live chat Kelsi did last year on her YouTube channel, someone asked her if she was afraid knowing that BG was still out there. Her reply was, “No. If he is who I think he is, he won’t hurt me.” I’m not entirely sure what she meant by that or if she had simply worded her response wrong, but it was a pretty startling response and I something that has stayed with me all this time.

 

[CCJD]

. I Just don't understand why they haven't gotten specialist in flieds trained to find that 1 piece of the puzzle. As the police say. I get frustrated and believe that Some other agency should look into the case.

RSBM

For the first six months afterward, there were more than 25 police agencies — mostly from Indiana — "that were assisting in this case in one way or another," Riley said.

Three years later, there are two state troopers, two Carroll County sheriff's deputies, a Delphi city police officer, and someone from the prosecutor's office working regularly on the case. And the FBI "still assists us," Riley said.
Delphi murders: After 3 years with no arrests, police say case isn't cold

 

[rosesfromangels]

Everyone Seems to have People in mind of who killed the Girls . That's why I believe fresh eyes would be amazing. I have seen many different types of options. What frustrates me is there is more evidence than we know. I really don't think this is a cold case. I personally believe that this is a tangled web of hidden secrets . I Just don't understand why they haven't gotten specialist in flieds trained to find that 1 piece of the puzzle. As the police say. I get frustrated and believe that Some other agency should look into the case. The Girls deserve Justice and the family deserves closer and Justice. I just want to see Justice. I have been benge watching news and Interviews and researching the case. I have not formed a opinion other than . Maybe some fresh eyes from some other agency might bring Justice and closer.

I think there have been alot of high level forensic experts looking at this case. There are speculations that the Perp is already in jail, per the MSM article a few posts upthread. If there is any truth to that (and that is JUST a speculation by many), I can only conclude that there are some final forensic studies that have been conducted, and pending results. That's the best I can come up with ATM. The one guy in jail looks like a ringer for the sketch. Let's hope they have got their miscreant, and that justice will be swift.

One thing I haven't been able to sort out in my mind. We have heard that the girls fought back. If this is the case, it is likely he had wounds/scratches on his face. Someone say that face, those scratches/marks/bruises and didn't say a thing. They need to do the right thing and call in a tip anonymously and free their conscience. (844) 459-5786 or email abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Carrie Ann]

People are obviously worried about coming forward. You can see that just by the attention from other sources. I believe that this is a tangled web of secrets. If the man prep is already in locked up. He still needs to face the Punishment for taking 2 young Girls life. In today's Technology I find it difficult to accept that there not more information. The people who live there are living with the fact the Killer(s) might be in plain sight. The difter theory is just doesn't add up to me. It's possible tho .