IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #4

[LaborDayRN]

Does he live 2 hours westerly of Delphi? A place where 2 hours more in the other direction would be in Iowa, at Seven Bridges Park where Lyric & Elizabeth were found murdered? I don't know if there are even any bridges at that park, but the name just stands out.

Wait, wasn't there some talk relating to "Bridges" in the L & E case? Some kind of letter, or information sent into the paper?

 

[margarita25]

Are the RR track routes on the updated casemap, tia.

 

[margarita25]

And the hog delivery schedules.

 

[margarita25]

I want to know about every single pig entering that plant. Not really

 

[Spin321]

Nice catch. It almost looks like something was blurred out on purpose. I don't know...I could just be wanting to see something. Perhaps it's nothing. But to me, it looks like the edge of the bridge looks funny, and the coloring in between his legs looks odd.

I see a clear stain and mud on the left pant leg in the photo on the left. Anyone else?

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[LaborDayRN]

And the hog delivery schedules.

I thought you were going to bed? Can't sleep?

 

[margarita25]

What's the long and lat of where they were found. Thanks.


yall remember the old scrappy doo "lemme at him, lemme at him"...

 

[margarita25]

I thought you were going to bed? Can't sleep?

nope. I told ya it's on boyach

 

[Eastonwatson]

Ok so I'm new never been here until this case so as people mentioned this was similar to lyric and Elizabeth the 2 cousins I read a little bit but didn't think anything.

But now I'm either going crazy or just might be something here.

The guy was a sailor has a thing for water maybe, from his only pics on Facebook that you can view... Historical bridges including him wearing almost identical clothing on the Manon bridge which he knows and post stats about under the pic.


But I just find it crazy people were originally saying the two cousins case was similar and in a crazy way this could all make sense.

The other 14 yo girl missing Breanne voils? I was just curious and searched her name and bridge and what do you know also missing from a place with a historic bridge. Highland park

I've been up for awhile so all this might come off as rambling.

But what's the odds of this guy being on the bridge (Manon) knowledgeable about its surroundings but lives far enough away nobody can pin point who he is. And not only just being on the bridge but having blue jeans and blue hoody with a camouflage hat? Hands in pockets in most pics. Almost identical body composition.

Also appears he lives in Waterloo Indiana.

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[perfectingpink]

What's the long and lat of where they were found. Thanks.


yall remember the old scrappy doo "lemme at him, lemme at him"...

 

[Owl4]

Eastonwatson
You my friend are on to something great! Call it in 😁🖒

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[Habibte]

HI everyone!

You are all awesome people to be around and to read. This is my first time posting so I hope I at least have something to talk about

I was considering the difference between this being an opportunistic and random attack...as opposed to someone known to the victims. This is my thought process:

If this was a random attack, the suspect would have had to wake up in the morning, decide to go to this location for a "walk" in the afternoon and either be carrying a kit of equipment on his person the entire time OR have it handy in a nearby location (eg a car). Then he would have to double back to fetch his stuff and double back again to commit the crime.

I have a couple of problems with this scenario, the first one being that the offender would have to be VERY certain that the girls were not also accompanied by another adult who may be fishing or hunting nearby. He would have to be sure that the girls weren't part of a larger group of teenagers and he would have to be sure that they werent about to meet anyone in the very near future who might raise the alarm or interrupt him. Also if he pulled a gun or knife to walk to the girls to a second location he would have to be pretty darned sure that he wouldnt bump into another hiker on the way to where they were being taken. Hysterical 14 year olds, I think, would totally lose it if there was another adult and they were in danger.
It also seems like a very long shot to hang out in an out of the way, pretty much unfrequented place to wait and see if your perfect victims arrive. If a murderer was on the hunt for a victim it seems that there would be other places that might yield more results. Especially if the suspect knows the kids are off school that day.

It seems to make more sense that the suspect knew the victims. He knew where they were going to be. He knew that they wouldnt be supervised. He knew how much time he would have before the alarm would be raised. If he has things stuffed into his jacket, the man came prepared. Also, he was obviously able to take on 2 healthy girls and yet when you look at the picture of the suspect, he really doesn't look like he is in top physical condition. He looks like he could be outrun quite easily by teenagers. I don't know if a perpetrator of such a crime would carry enough equipment for 2 victims just in case his intended victim wasn't alone.
Teenagers are unlikely to be lured away by a pet story or something like that. Girls especially are very wary of strange men in a lonely place. I think we all have it drummed in to us. I think it's highly likely they would keep their distance.

If i look at the photo of the suspect again, He is certainly wearing clothes to disguise his features. what if it was to disguise his features from the victims?
Perhaps, if it was someone known to one or both of the girls it is possible that they didn't recognise him until he said "Hey! Its me!" By then he is awfully close to them and in this scenario, they arent running away or raising the alarm and are very happy to go to another location with the suspect and wouldn't think to alert anyone if they ran into other hikers etc...Also if the suspects plan is interrupted by another hiker or person he can abandon his plans with no harm done.

From the suspects point of view, He has enough equipment for 2 victims. He has a tight timeline before his crime can be discovered. If he knows the victims, hes more than likely local, so he knows the area. He knows the expected traffic and he knows the more secluded places in that area.

This is only my opinion and though process

 

[Owl4]

I see a clear stain and mud on the left pant leg in the photo on the left. Anyone else?

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For a brief moment to me it looked like a shoe print. (Muddy) like being kicked.

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[margarita25]

To the awesome image specialists here, have you guys done a contrast on the right pocket, in hopes of identifying possibl caliber, make etc.


nevermind. If LE wanted us to know they would release tht information.

 

[aust amateur slueth]

Anyone else think it looks like he has a sawn off shotgun or rifle down his right leg?

 

[gregjrichards]

Anyone else think it looks like he has a sawn off shotgun or rifle down his right leg?

I wondered the same or a silencer for a gun.

 

[dizzigirl1]

Firstly two apologies. 1: If this observation has been posted, i have missed it & 2, i cannot work out how to use any of the photos in a quote but #473 has what i am looking at (or hallucinating over ) On either side of POI, the picture is blurred like the blemish tool has been used. On the edge of the bridge, too me, it looks like the sneakers Abby was wearing in the snapchat just balancing there & another person sort of the other side but maybe behind? . I have not thought this image was taken from the girls. I think that possibly, this image is from one of the people on the bridge who were possibly taking pics of their own scenery etc. That's why there is such distortion in more areas than others because they had to remove images that would identify the girls. Again, it's just a thought. It's bugged me more that what he is wearing, carrying, walking etc & i am probably way of base.

 

[1968]

I disagree. I believe the brown is a hoodie under his jacket. He has the jacket pushed up on the right side to put his hand in the hoodie pocket.

So we'll just have to agree to disagree.

One other item of note is that MSM has said that the photo of the guy was taken between 1:00 and 3:30. I don't think that the timing works for that to be blood.

JMO

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[carpeverum]

Ok so I'm new never been here until this case so as people mentioned this was similar to lyric and Elizabeth the 2 cousins I read a little bit but didn't think anything.

But now I'm either going crazy or just might be something here.

The guy was a sailor has a thing for water maybe, from his only pics on Facebook that you can view... Historical bridges including him wearing almost identical clothing on the Manon bridge which he knows and post stats about under the pic.


But I just find it crazy people were originally saying the two cousins case was similar and in a crazy way this could all make sense.

The other 14 yo girl missing Breanne voils? I was just curious and searched her name and bridge and what do you know also missing from a place with a historic bridge. Highland park

I've been up for awhile so all this might come off as rambling.

But what's the odds of this guy being on the bridge (Manon) knowledgeable about its surroundings but lives far enough away nobody can pin point who he is. And not only just being on the bridge but having blue jeans and blue hoody with a camouflage hat? Hands in pockets in most pics. Almost identical body composition.

Also appears he lives in Waterloo Indiana.

Anybody that wants to see profile just send me a message.

I located his FB profile based on your great details, Eastonwatson. He has a TON of pics there, and I looked at all of his profile pics. I can see some parts that might raise a brow, but I'm just not seeing any real physical or clothing types of similarities. He looks to be a member of the USN and yes: many pics of water and Navy-related stuff--and food, family, football.....well, a LOTof varied interests!

JMO and I wouldn't say to rule it out, maybe it's that I'm not seeing the resemblance that you are(?)

I would still send it in, though--one never knows....

 

[Eastonwatson]

I located his FB profile based on your great details, Eastonwatson. He has a TON of pics there, and I looked at all of his profile pics. I can see some parts that might raise a brow, but I'm just not seeing any real physical or clothing types of similarities. He looks to be a member of the USN and yes: many pics of water and Navy-related stuff--and food, family, football.....well, a LOTof varied interests!

JMO and I wouldn't say to rule it out, maybe it's that I'm not seeing the resemblance that you are(?)

I would still send it in, though--one never knows....

It won't let me see any of those pics I guess of food football and other stuff I can only see a limited amount of lake/ bridge photos.

I do know it might not look like the guy in the pic to some. But I do know this. They both have stood on that bridge with blue jeans on a blue hoody/zip up and a cammo hat.

Very similar.