IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #48

[K.jill]

http://fox59.com/2017/04/10/delphi-...early-four-years-in-jail-for-traffic-charges/

Am I reading this correctly? "Investigators are awaiting DNA test lab results being conducted by the FBI to conclusively link that suspect to the murders." Does this confirm that they do have DNA from the BG?

And, does it mean they have a suspect?

 

[mtnlites]

I take RL's comment to mean that he now believes he knows who BG is and is helping LE to make sure this person is convicted which will help ensure no more murders occur in his back yard.

Wow, I didn't get that from RL's comment at all! It would be nice if that's what he meant, though. It would mean that things are definitely moving along more than it looks.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

And, does it mean they have a suspect?

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OMG~~~I've been working like a dog....anyone have updates~~~this sounds like great news! Hurray???

 

[St. Anthony2017]

I took it as, they DO have a suspect, they are hoping the DNA confirms their suspicions...Maybe I'm wishful thinking again.

I totally agree!! That is best news all day imo!

 

[GangaMa]

Police are awaiting lab results to (hopefully) identify the perpetrator. It won't work if they don't have his DNA on file.

It will work enough to identify many things about the perp. Enough for them to get a full, 360 degree sculpture/image of his head and face and hair. They'll know if his earlobes are attached to his neck, for heaven's sake. When they get that likeness done, I would dearly like to see it. As would we all. You don't have to have a "match" to use DNA.

 

[ab01]

I take RL's comment to mean that he now believes he knows who BG is and is helping LE to make sure this person is convicted which will help ensure no more murders occur in his back yard.

What particular comment made by RL makes you think this?

edit to add: I now see how you could have interpreted it that way, although I don't believe that is what he meant....just my opinion

 

[roseofsharon]

I take RL's comment to mean that he now believes he knows who BG is and is helping LE to make sure this person is convicted which will help ensure no more murders occur in his back yard.

I think RL used the fact the girls were found deceased on his property to justify breaking the law, yet again. The girls and their loved ones are the victims! The girls didn't have a choice on whether they were going to live or die that day. BG made that decision for them. RL had a choice as to whether he would break the law again and he chose to break it. MOO

 

[sweetcaro]

Thats what it sounds like. BG identified, waiting for DNA results to confirm involvement? I hope so!

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[Lilowlet]

I'm pretty sure that the only reason the voice is not 100% connected to the suspect is because he is not filmed talking - can't see he lips moving, but I think it's very likely that the audio does belong to the man in the still image.

True you never know. Good thoughts

 

[jillycat]

About RL's sentencing outcome:

I haven't seen anyone advocate for RL getting a pass for his law-breaking. There's a difference between confusion about why we have laws and restrict freedoms, and disagreement with RL's outcome as it pertains to measurable public safety.

Taxpayers are funding 3.5 years of perfunctory restrictions that will result in RL being sent back to the community to resume engaging in the behaviors that sent him to prison in the first place.

I spent a decade in the non-profit sector watching habitual but non-violent individuals cycle and recycle through the courts and jails and then upon release get spit into the laps of caseworkers like me tasked with helping them 'stabilize' in the community. It took far more time, energy, and dollars to do triple duty on the tail end of a failed journey through a broken system than it would have taken to have more substance to the consequence on the front end of first offense, with adequate support and oversight to actually motivate behavioral change.

Some people never will change, I get that. But people with addictions and compulsions definitely won't (just simply) change under punishment for failing to stop self-satisfying activities within the loosey-goosey boundaries we euphemistically like to call 'leniency'.

Can't have it both ways - no meaningful consequences or commensurate services and support, yet expectations that they just 'get it', or face prison (and return to the community the same as when they went there).

As for the SW on RL's property, LE and the FBI know how these girls were killed and by what type of individual and whether or not it's plausible that RL is that type of individual. They might still be waiting on lab results but they are not confused about what type of perp does what they encountered when they found those poor girls. I would also think that by now they have a handle on whether or not he knows something or provided intended or unintended aid to the killer.

 

[Lilowlet]

Seems like LE must think someone else may have been there or they just said that because they can't see BG when they hear the audio.

Very possible as well also good thought.

 

[St. Anthony2017]

Thats what it sounds like. BG identified, waiting for DNA results to confirm involvement? I hope so!

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Tomorrow could be the day or maybe by Friday if we are lucky! Prayers go out to families of the girls for them to get closure even though they will be loved and missed forever.

 

[Yvettea]

Is there truthfully a path from the back of the cemetery to the bridge and would locals know about it?

 

[Spiritecho]

Search for Delphi killer continues

[video=youtube;r4v7SOwDfyU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4v7SOwDfyU[/video]

My sound is messed up so I couldn't hear it.

 

[fruity]

I just want to say one thing that I have not read multiple times. It is important to realize just why RL was on probation - his original probation should have ended months ago, but he violated it, and the courts gave him yet another chance by not incarcerating him, and just extending the terms of his probation. So you all see, not only has he been convicted of multiple DUIs, he has also violated his proabation multiple times. I think the courts ran out of chances (or f's) to give...

This is a very good point. And while I do have sympathy (it can't be easy for anyone to have two beautiful teenage girls brutally murdered on their property, let alone an elderly alcoholic - anyone would be tempted to drown their sorrows), he obviously keeps stepping over the line and needs to be dealt with accordingly. I wish they had a detox/rehab program he could attend.

 

[Burnt Toast]

Thats what it sounds like. BG identified, waiting for DNA results to confirm involvement? I hope so!

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where did this quote come from and when?

"Investigators are awaiting DNA test lab results being conducted by the FBI to conclusively link that suspect to the murders."

 

[AmateurAnalyst73]

I think the sheriff's statement regarding RL being a part of the investigation (but not labeled a suspect) is likely due to the evidence that is still being processed from the SW. Again, when that warrant was served on 3/17, it was specifically stated that the evidence collected would take 4 to 6 weeks to be processed, before LE would have those results. That puts us at ~ 4/24 before we can expect any info to be released.

Until then, they will neither call RL a suspect, nor will they state he had no involvement. We are still in the midst of the "either clear him or move him higher as a suspect". Limbo is never easy. Imagine what it must be like for LE, the residents of Delphi, and, especially, the girls' families. If they can maintain their decency through this excruciating time period, I feel like I owe it to them to do so, as well.

I don't believe RL is the perpetrator here, although, I almost hope I am wrong. If I am not, then this may be a much more difficult crime to solve. I don't believe it was random, either, and if the girls were targeted for whatever reason, we now live in a culture where many of us document our every move, our favorite places, etc, making it easier than it's ever been for predators to find out where we are, where we're going, who we'll be with, etc. Even the area can be cased from a distance via topo maps, creek flow charts, etc. A professional or SK(often not a huge difference) could pick a target, peripherally follow that person's SM, get info about their favorite places, and wait for a day and/or time the victim posts on SM that they will be there, and strike. They wouldn't have to be local, or even ever have been to the place before, IMO, although maybe a "dry run" or two might be part of the preparation.

Although I said I don't believe RL committed this crime, I am aware that whatever evidence comes back toward the end of the month should clarify this question one way or the other. We'll all have to be patient, I suppose.

 

[Spiritecho]

where did this quote come from and when?

"Investigators are awaiting DNA test lab results being conducted by the FBI to conclusively link that suspect to the murders."

http://fox59.com/2017/04/10/delphi-...early-four-years-in-jail-for-traffic-charges/

 

[Yvettea]

Even the area can be cased from a distance via topo maps, creek flow charts, etc.

Thank you for making this point.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Is there truthfully a path from the back of the cemetery to the bridge and would locals know about it?

A thread or two back someone posted a youtube video - it was the one where the deer stand was seen - that the person in it walked right from the bridge to the cemetery.