IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #70

Elle*Bee · Oct 1, 2017

Karinna said:
Thankyou for posting all that up. He certainly moved around a lot.

Not only that, but several of his addresses overlapped.

margarita25 · Oct 1, 2017

Rott Mom said:
Off topic: Did you have a "good" walk?

Well, I was thinking about some geopoints :biggrin: :heart:

I was just thinking about how this stuff stays with us, becomes part of us, how I wouldn't trade the last 5 years here with you guys, everything I've learned and feeling like I'm helping, or trying to help, but I realized that there's only so long one can talk and think about hatchets and slaughtered pigs and raped children without it taking its toll, and I very clearly humbly just realized it's taken its toll, that I would never want to be a cop, etc even though I've thought about it soooo many times, I don't know how those guys do it, not for me...then I was thinking I can't leave here because the NOCO shooter is still out there lol. Was also thinking about how just sad I feel, plain and simple, pit in my stomach, but that being with like minds here is comforting. Thanks for listening, and asking, I think I know myself pretty well and I think this one might have just done me in. Oh was also thinking about Jessica, smiling girl who loved animals, and how I still have major issues, particularly awful thoughts seeing garbage bags on he side of the road and how I need therapy. And hoe I might even just want/need to get the heck out of Colorado, somewhere warm, fall reminds me of those days, Just mentally emotionally physically exhausted I think with lots of issues, other stuff in my life, ot. I was also thinking how when this is over maybe we could have that cleansing experience in a new healing thread, with the mods' permission, you know ways to disassociate and heal the residual scars of all this by posting happy bridge pics and photos of cute blue hoodies.

Rott Mom · Oct 1, 2017

margarita25 said:
Love you guys. All I have is sadness is here right now. Like a couple posers yesterday, he excitement has turned to somber (I be on some kind ofndelayed reaction meter lol) .Trying t keep the academic posts going otherwise I'll just sit here and cry lol.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with crying! You are an amazing person. You wouldn't be "human" if these inhumane murders didn't affect you.

Bless your beautiful kind and loving soul.

BigCityAccountant · Oct 1, 2017

margarita25 said:
Love you guys. All I have is sadness is here right now. Like a couple posers yesterday, he excitement has turned to somber (I be on some kind ofndelayed reaction meter lol) .Trying t keep the academic posts going otherwise I'll just sit here and cry lol.

That's exactly how I felt yesterday. That's why I proposed posting an uplifting story about the girls.

[FONT=&quot]The memory of Liberty German and Abigail Williams likely wasn't too far from the minds of players, fans and families attending a weekend softball tournament in Tippecanoe County.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Libby German's family has established the 'Libby and Abby Softball Park Fund' through the Carroll County Community Foundation.
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Liberty the HERO! RIP Girls!

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/...nd-in-honor-of-libby-german-and-abby-williams

margarita25 · Oct 1, 2017

BigCityAccountant said:
That's exactly how I felt yesterday. That's why I proposed posting an uplifting story about the girls.

[FONT="]The memory of Liberty German and Abigail Williams likely wasn't too far from the minds of players, fans and families attending a weekend softball tournament in Tippecanoe County.

[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#1A1A1A][FONT="]Libby German's family has established the 'Libby and Abby Softball Park Fund' through the Carroll County Community Foundation.
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Liberty the HERO! RIP Girls!

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/...nd-in-honor-of-libby-german-and-abby-williams

I was thinking about that too, this post, when I was out there thinking on my walk. Thank you for this reminder BCA!! :heart:

BigCityAccountant · Oct 1, 2017

Gunslinging Granny said:
Hurray! Let's hope he spit somewhere along that Delphi bridge. (DNA)

That is EXACTLY what I was thinking when I saw what appears to be a chewing tobacco canister in his back pocket in the picture with the SUV.

margarita25 · Oct 1, 2017

Rott Mom said:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with crying! You are an amazing person. You wouldn't be "human" if these inhumane murders didn't affect you.

Bless your beautiful kind and loving soul.

Bless all yall, the girls, their families, LE, websleuths and our moderators, all the members, every victim, every family, everyone!

:grouphug:

BigCityAccountant · Oct 1, 2017

margarita25 said:
I was thinking about that too, this post, when I was out there thinking. Thank you for he reminder BCA!! :heart:

Well, carry it forward...look for an uplifting story to post about the girls!!!

It seemed to me, the girls memory got lost yesterday in all the talk about DN. IMHO, If he is BG, he doesn't DESERVE to be talked about.

RiceCasparr · Oct 1, 2017

Realized I am way behind (as new thread posted) but in response to a previous post about DN possibly leaving the phone there as an exhibitionist:

I can't help but think if he saw the phone he'd either take it as a trophy/to watch video, take it to avoid it falling into cops hands, or destroy it. Not just leave incriminating evidence for it to be found. If he was seeking exposure, I think we would have seen more from him earlier on...in the search, at vigils, etc and there's no reason to believe he took part in that.

I honestly think hes not that intelligent and not even a seasoned criminal. I think hes unstable and prone to violence that makes him blind to all else...and that he mostly lucked out...until now (if he is BG).

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GunGirl · Oct 1, 2017

margarita25 said:
Was it deer hunting season? Trying to remember, tia.

Not sure where you're headed with this question but a .22 would be completely useless for dear hunting...if that's help your train if though any

margarita25 · Oct 1, 2017

BigCityAccountant said:
That is EXACTLY what I was thinking when I saw what appears to be a chewing tobacco canister in his back pocket in the picture with the SUV.

Oh this is fantastic. Please let there be such evidence. The worst thing would be for an arrest to occur and anyone to still feel somehow doubtful/insecure/afraid (cough). We/ I want him hook line and sinker. Smoking Gun. DNA. Full Shebang.

margarita25 · Oct 1, 2017

GunGirl said:
Not sure where you're headed with this question but a .22 would be completely useless for dear hunting...if that's help your train if though any

Hi GunGirl, thanks for your response, I thiiiiink I might have been wondering if DN might have known about that place via hunting, or was hunting, idk, same old questions we've been asking since day 1 lol...(3 days of straight articles, images, interpretations, questions, DNA outlines etc etc etc has me functioning at minimal cognizance). Maybe it was because of that (the .22), I have no idea! I'll think about it, thanks!

BigCityAccountant · Oct 1, 2017

margarita25 said:
Hi GunGirl, thanks for your response, I thiiiiink I might have been wondering if DN might have known about that place via hunting, or was hunting, idk, same old questions we've been asking since day 1 lol..3 days of straight articles, images, interpretation, questions, DNA outlines etc etc etc has me functioning at minimal cognizance. Maybe it was because of that, I have no idea! I'll think about it, thanks.

Generally hunting season for deer is in the fall. I'll go look and see what I can find.

FlossyMay · Oct 1, 2017

Isn't it possible that he didn't realize he was being recorded? In the bridge photos he's looking down. Maybe he never noticed the phone because it was dropped or tossed out of the way.

GoJacks · Oct 1, 2017

FlossyMay said:
Isn't it possible that he didn't realize he was being recorded? In the bridge photos he's looking down. Maybe he never noticed the phone because it was dropped or tossed out of the way.

My one thought is he possibly looked at phone, checked out photos/videos, and didn't see any because they were recorded on Snapchat thus not saved to the phone. Maybe an oversight on his part?

GunGirl · Oct 1, 2017

margarita25 said:
Hi GunGirl, thanks for your response, I thiiiiink I might have been wondering if DN might have known about that place via hunting, or was hunting, idk, same old questions we've been asking since day 1 lol..3 days of straight articles, images, interpretation, questions, DNA outlines etc etc etc has me functioning at minimal cognizance. Maybe it was because of that, I have no idea! I'll think about it, thanks.

I understand! It's not usually common (or legal) to hunt on public trails. I'm not familiar with the dates for riffle-deer season for IN, but mid feb in general wouldn't be terribly out of line.
I don't see DN as the hunting type in the way I know hunting....for a bazillion reasons, that I'm to tired and lazy to type out on my little phone screen. Not saying he wouldn't/doesn't kill animals out of rage or anger but I don't see him as an actual hunter whos purpose is to harvest meat to feed his family.

BigCityAccountant · Oct 1, 2017

BigCityAccountant said:
Generally hunting season for deer is in the fall. I'll go look and see what I can find.

So to answer your question Margarita, the following were open season (at least for this coming year)

Fox, Coyote, Skunk, Dog running (raccoon, opossum) (whatever that is...LOL), rabbit, crow, frog and turtles.

http://www.eregulations.com/indiana/hunting/hunting-regulations/

margarita25 · Oct 1, 2017

Elle*Bee said:
Not only that, but several of his addresses overlapped.

So which ones specifically?

Daey34 · Oct 1, 2017

Guys, when you call the tip line, like the one advertised for this case, who answers the phone? Is it a local college student? Or is it a LE official? Is it some type of dispatcher? Does the person answering the phone at a tip line, such as this one for Delphi, have intimate knowledge of the case, in order to recognize details during a call that might be a red flag? Or is it just some random person?

When you call a tip line, what info do they normally take from you? Name obviously. Do they take your address? Is it common to take your social security number?

Can someone definitely answer these questions?

margarita25 said:
Thank you, more geopoints/timeline variables. Yay! I actually just posted some you mentioned previously just upstream.

Rott Mom said:
There is absolutely nothing wrong with crying! You are an amazing person. You wouldn't be "human" if these inhumane murders didn't affect you.

Bless your beautiful kind and loving soul.

RiceCasparr · Oct 1, 2017

FlossyMay said:
Isn't it possible that he didn't realize he was being recorded? In the bridge photos he's looking down. Maybe he never noticed the phone because it was dropped or tossed out of the way.

Absolutely. I think he never saw it or if he did had no knowledge of what it contained or could tell via pings, etc.

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