I just tried, there's no Reply With Quote option. Bummer, it was a good post by JazzTune.You can't reply with quote to a locked thread, can you?
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I just tried, there's no Reply With Quote option. Bummer, it was a good post by JazzTune.You can't reply with quote to a locked thread, can you?
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In reference to Daey34 's comment about DN not being able to hold on to valuables for a long time....perhaps what they pawned had been recently stolen by the couple in Colorado. That may be how they lived. From heist to heist.
I agree, I also see some kind of attitude in the sketch. But I also see the way DN's mugshots change. He's had so many over the course of the last ten years or so and these aren't normal aging changes. (Sometimes I think he's deliberately trying to alter his features by raising his eyebrows or sticking his chin out. Others he just looks different, even his jaw line.) Maybe the sketch is reflective of rage. Not full blown rage but simmering under the surface. That is if he is BG and if the witness(es) contributing toward the sketch encountered him on the trail that day. I firmly believe whomever took the girls' lives was in a state of rage when they did it.
http://www.doctoroz.com/episode/true-crime-tuesday-murdered-bridge
What I'm going to mention now is not related to DN, or the current discussion about him.
It was something Abby's mom said on the recent Dr. Oz show, linked above, that I had never heard before.
Dr. Oz had asked her what it's like as a mom to see the photos of her daughter, and also hearing the audio on Libby's phone. How she processed all of it.
I've listened repeatedly to her answer. It was a bit rambling which is understandable, but I will try to quote it:
"When we sat there as the girls were first missing, and we had gotten the picture off ICloud, as far as that picture, that last picture on the bridge, the first thing I said to Becky is, she is so grounded! I cannot believe they crossed that bridge! I'm terrified of heights to begin with. And just for me it was just oh! Because at that point it was - they're in big trouble! They're in big trouble..."
The reason I bring this up is because so many people wondered how parents could be comfortable with allowing their children to cross that bridge.
The assumption being, that since the girls went there frequently, crossing that bridge would not have been a big deal to them or their families.
Listening to Anna's words though tells me a different story. The girls did not have approval to cross the bridge.
Probably a moot point now, but this brings up questions for me. Dr. Oz says they were dropped off at the entrance to the north end. The photo was on the south end of the bridge.
Did they routinely walk across that bridge without their parents' awareness?
Is it possible they did not walk across it? Could they have found a dry path underneath to the other side?
This is all conjecture. Nothing to support it. Just a thought that's been bothering me though. Probably means nothing anyway.
It just seems every aspect of this case eats at me. These girls are always in my thoughts. In the middle of a project, they come to mind unbidden. I stop and pause. Gather my thoughts...
Always pondering, why did this horrible tragedy happen?!
Justice must come for these girls!
JMO
ETA: For some reason, although I linked the video I was watching of the girls' families, it links instead to the main link of a discussion of food. Underneath, it shows the correct videos of the families which can be easily accessed.
Maybe they never crossed the bridge. Maybe they only got on to take the picture and got off. JMO
Can someone please post a link that says LE definitely found Libby's phone.
JazzTune, I couldnt reply directly to your quote about Anna Williams statement.
It makes me sick inside knowing that the worst thing that should have happened that day, was Abby getting grounded for crossing the bridge & instead....she is murdered[emoji174] Makes me physically ill & that much more angry that this monster ripped those girls away from their families[emoji35] MOO
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His bond was upped to 20k.
After Anna Williams made that statement, did Libbys grandparents respond? Was it their understanding that the girls would never cross the bridge? I thought that crossing the bridge was the whole point of going.
After Anna Williams made that statement, did Libby’s grandparents respond? Was it their understanding that the girls would never cross the bridge? I thought that crossing the bridge was the whole point of going.
Maybe they weren’t supposed to cross the bridge. Not sure how far the drop off point was to it, but it would have to be tempting for the girls to cross it, especially if it was part of the trail.
I keep looking at the mug shot of DN and the artist rendition of BG. While there are certainly similarities I think the one thing that keeps throwing me is the difference it makes me feel. BG artist rendition shows more of an arrogance imo while DN mug shots shows more of a goofiness imo. Hard as I try they just give me completely different vibes.
Count me in the group that didn't have an immediate "that's him!" response when I first viewed the mugshots of DN.
I agree with your assessment. If I had to come up with another way to say it: BG sketch= calculating, DN mug= impulsive
Just my opinion, based on a lifetime of sizing up people at first glance. (BTW, I've probably been "right" only about 25% of the time)