IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #75

[No it's not]

Police in Indianapolis, IN just arrested a man for murdering his neighbor 3 years ago. He looks like BG. It is online, the man's name is King and he stabbed his wheelchair-bound victim 38 times. He has been out and about in the public since the murder. Spokesman for ISP said it takes years for DNA analysis to return, there is at the moment 92 backlogged cases waiting in line.

I find that very interesting thank you! It is intriguing, that they secured a "yellow plastic toolbox and a number of tools — including vice grips, a scratch awl, a nail puller, chisel and pray bar — laid out carefully next to it

, according to the probable cause affidavit. There also was a bottle cleaner with bleach and a flat-head screwdriver next to the tools, both of which appeared to have blood on them, the affidavit said."

Source, Indy Star

 

[margarita25]

Police in Indianapolis, IN just arrested a man for murdering his neighbor 3 years ago. He looks like BG. It is online, the man's name is King and he stabbed his wheelchair-bound victim 38 times. He has been out and about in the public since the murder. Spokesman for ISP said it takes years for DNA analysis to return, there is at the moment 92 backlogged cases waiting in line.

Victim in wheelchair had 38 stab wounds in 2014 torture slaying in Indianapolis
https://www.indystar.com/story/news...e-slaying-west-side-man-wheelchair/870255001/

 

[Ember123]

I do see some resemblance. However I think DN fits this crime in so many ways I'm just waiting for charges to be brought.
But I'm still willing to look at other possibles until then.

Hear Ya!

 

[Ember123]

Is it usual to have a fireplace in a garage, though? It looks to me like a very old, big house converted into small living spaces.

Jen17 glad to know you are still with us!

 

[kkdj]

It looks like rooms which were occupied by rental nomads, just like that, from time to time shown in newspapers/TV. It lacks only the canine/cat/human feces on the floor or walls. IMO
If they more often left their apartment like that they always would have needed plenty of money to replace all their stuff (toys, furniture, devices, mattresses, bedding, even clothing and so on ...). DN's bloodied clothing IF there ever were some at an apartment (hotel/motel room) somewhere in one of the 46 states (with 6000 billboards) would never have been found. If any of the clothing had turned up, one would have thought it would be blood of perished pigs or other animals (farm/hunting). Who would have thought of murdered people? Even KN would have been easy to deceive as long as DN worked on a farm. When DN worked in construction it would have been a little more difficult to deceive his own wife but not fundamentally impossible.
When seeing the apartment pic another thought came to my mind: KN said DN became a man she hadn't married 6 years ago. Because of KN or despite KN - I would like to ask ....
IMO MOO

What do you mean by this? At first I thought you meant maybe she drove him to madness, but then I thought maybe you meant he did some things, lived some ways for her. Maybe you meant something I haven't thought of. What do you mean?

 

[Shiressleuth]

Shire- I so appreciate your ongoing devotion to this case and the many ideas / comments/pics/comparisons you have so kindly brought forth. I am thinking- Would it be fairly easy (and expected?) for LE to take some proportional measurements of DN and BG off of these various images of each to see if they are within realm of being a match? (Top of shoulder to elbow to wrist for example, or upper torso in comparison to legs ... ) etc ??

TY Ember. I think they may well be able to do that. They have the video and I remember in the Corrie case they analysed the gait of many of those cctv images to rule out if it was Corrie.

To me the similarity of the jeans bunched at the ankle and the appearance of something possibly under the jeans too, whether a gun holster or work boots, looks likely to me also.

I do think it is worth going over the evidence, as there is always the possibility that one little thing may suddenly click.

 

[mpnola]

I don't actually think that place looks particularly trashed. What do yo'all think?

If you look under the windows, that entire strip of wall looks completely chopped up.

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[Shiressleuth]

Police in Indianapolis, IN just arrested a man for murdering his neighbor 3 years ago. He looks like BG. It is online, the man's name is King and he stabbed his wheelchair-bound victim 38 times. He has been out and about in the public since the murder. Spokesman for ISP said it takes years for DNA analysis to return, there is at the moment 92 backlogged cases waiting in line.

What??? 92 murder cases? Hope they don't all have to wait three years. Presumably Delphi and Flora are two of those cases.
We're obviously in for a long wait before any POI's get cleared.

 

[FrostedGlass]

I posted a timeline on the Indy murder last week. Look how long it took LE just to submit the items for testing! Indy LE are just swamped with murders and that could be part of the reason for the delay in submitting evidence. They had a record number last year and are looking to beat it this year.

Here is the timeline I compiled from the article:
On Nov. 15, 2014, Borer was found dead/murdered in his wheelchair

Police interviewed a witness, leading them to King, who reportedly told police he had been at Borer’s house on Nov. 6, 2014 but denied involvement in the death.

In August 2015, police submitted 10 items from the crime scene for DNA testing.

In December 2016, they received a match on a sample of the blood from the bleach bottle to a DNA sample from King.

A week later, police obtained a cheek swab from King.
On May 30, 2017, a second match to King’s DNA was confirmed.

In November 2017, (last week) King was charged with murder.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/...-bound-man-tortured-to-death-over-unpaid-debt

One thing I'd like to note is people kill other people for the most senseless reasons. This one was over an unpaid debt in drugs.

 

[Shiressleuth]

If you look under the windows, that entire strip of wall looks completely chopped up.

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I see what you mean. Hatchet practice?

 

[Deleted member 102539]

What do you mean by this? At first I thought you meant maybe she drove him to madness, but then I thought maybe you meant he did some things, lived some ways for her. Maybe you meant something I haven't thought of. What do you mean?

I mean: Maybe they both have been somewhat poison to each other.

 

[Shiressleuth]

http://fox59.com/2017/11/22/despera...lved-cases-using-psychics-in-hopes-for-clues/

Desperate for Answers: Families of unsolved cases using psychics in hopes for clues

TY for posting this about Libby's mum using a psychic. It is an interesting article . I think she sounds spot on IMO.

 

[kkdj]

If you look under the windows, that entire strip of wall looks completely chopped up.

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Can you please post the pic? I keep trying to look at a pic I think you're talking about but it's too blurry to see any chop marks. Tia

 

[kkdj]

On another site not to be named here, if the author is real, me thinketh thou protesteth too much.

 

[Daey34]

She wants everyone to know she is without a vehicle.

On another site not to be named here, if the author is real, me thinketh thou protesteth too much.

 

[kkdj]

She wants everyone to know she is without a vehicle.

And has been lied and lied to. Helps to look innocent.

 

[Shiressleuth]

She wants everyone to know she is without a vehicle.

She would still have a car if DN had left his hatchet behind in Indiana.

 

[Daey34]

Or if she had the money for two months of impound fees.

She would still have a car if DN had left his hatchet behind in Indiana.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I mean: Maybe they both have been somewhat poison to each other.

Yep. I think responsibilities don't seem to suit him. I was interested in what the psychic said about the important time to the perpetrator was the week before and that is what people should be alert to any changes, so around 6 Feb .

 

[Shiressleuth]

Or if she had the money for two months of impound fees.

You don't get it back if it is evidence though right?
Also, insurance companies and LE may not be too happy with car owners letting someone drive the car with no licence, so perhaps it's best LE don't release it back at all, in case another felon drives it. Some people don't seem to realise the gravity of that situation at all IMO.