IN - Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #79

[Shiressleuth]

Sorry, but I wasn't replying to you, I completely missed your post. :facepalm:

Well you said "judges " which was a quote from my post directly so that's why I wondered. What is the venom in the posts you refer to then? Could you perhaps explain the comment because I don't see any. Maybe its over my head.

 

[iscaremyself]

Out of curiosity, who exactly is "fooled" by DN? His record indicates that he has had more than his fair share of run ins with the law and not a single person that's been interviewed about him, including his wife, has anything good to say about the man.

far as I'm concerned they got the guy..and using the wife's car (while she's in it) and her buying the rifle makes her complicit and guilty of aiding , abetting and probably participating..she should be sitting in a cell too imho

 

[kc1023]

RL hearing today? Anything?

 

[her]

Sigh...really, really sorry I have stirred up animus. I was really just laughing at the 'judges' post and my comment came from that place. No offense intended.

Don’t worry it’s just a forum. We are adults.

 

[Sleuthin' n TX]

No problem.

I'm just having a hard time understanding the level of venom aimed at this guy. I've seen such worse cases... one of my tenant applicants had an attempted murder charge plea bargained away.

What I feel bothers me the most about DN is his situation is synonymous with criminals in our legal system across our nation...churn and burn...trying not to clog up the courts and prisons in the process of the legalities. Minimal sentencing = less cost but at what price ultimately? Just tired of seeing it happen over and over.

Re: your tenant applicant, were they allowed in? Curious.

 

[kc1023]

RL hearing today? Anything?

Does anyone know AG's twitter ID? Apparently he went to the hearing and has the info but I can't find a link to post.

 

[margarita25]

At first I was kind of saddened by the office move but it was inevitable, sooner or later. It's been almost a year, resources must be given to other cases, and the tiploads have become more manageable. More space is always required in the very beginning, when you're looking at multiple agencies needing room to move around, not to mention volunteers and family members. The main thing is that tips keep coming in and they continue to investigate those so the case is far from "cold".

(O/t, reminded heavily when there was a similar announcement in the NOCO shootings case (see signature for reference) re: scaleback...looking for quote...)

(Eta: Here's one:

"Three agencies of the 11-agency task force investigating six 2015 shootings no longer assign daily personnel to the task force operations"

Snip

""All those agencies are still technically participating, but don't necessarily have personnel assigned to the task force," Moore said. "They are still resources the task force has at their disposal.""

http://www.reporterherald.com/news/...rn-colorado-shooting-task-force-investigation

Similar type of thing here, I imagine, moo...)

 

[FrostedGlass]

What I feel bothers me the most about DN is his situation is synonymous with criminals in our legal system across our nation...churn and burn...trying not to clog up the courts and prisons in the process of the legalities. Minimal sentencing = less cost but at what price ultimately? Just tired of seeing it happen over and over.

Re: your tenant applicant, were they allowed in? Curious.

A guy who worked for me on occasion had been in prison a number of times. I asked him about it and he said he didn't mind all that much going back in. He said more of his friends were in prison than out on the street. He thought prison was easier in a lot of ways; he knew what was expected of him on the inside. Outside, he had to worry about getting/keeping a job, supporting his family, staying out of trouble. He said being out was way more stressful. There are no good answers other than keep your kids from being criminals to begin with.

As for my tenant: I was a lax landlord and did not do criminal checks; partially due to the fact that so many in the area had criminal backgrounds. The tenant came to me as a referral so I let her in. It was a lesson learned for me.

 

[kc1023]

Well I still can't find a good link for RL's hearing results today but I did notice his mycase records are showing a foreclosure filed on Dec 29. Do you suppose he will have enough time to rectify this from (unconfirmed) house arrest?

Reverse Mortgage Funding LLC v. Ronald Logan, The United States of America, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Olivia Jean Logan

 

[FrostedGlass]

Well I still can't find a good link for RL's hearing results today but I did notice his mycase records are showing a foreclosure filed on Dec 29. Do you suppose he will have enough time to rectify this from (unconfirmed) house arrest?

Reverse Mortgage Funding LLC v. Ronald Logan, The United States of America, Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, Olivia Jean Logan

I haven't found anything, either.

Regarding the foreclosure: did you notice this filed by Reverse Mortgage Funding and what do you think it is?

[FONT=&amp]Notice of Exclusion of Confidential Information[/FONT]

 

[Hatfield]

It is the offender's responsibility to notify their new address to LE not a hotel manager or landlord. When RSO's have a permanent address, they only have to report a change, whereas homeless RSO's have to report weekly AFAIK.

JMO
When this legislation first came out it sounded good on the surface until I learned it was the RSO themselves that has to be the one to register themselves.

I am still amazed about it. I am thankful that some honest RSO actually follow the process but I am also not surprised in the least that a certain percentage dont follow the process and become "lost".

Surely there could have been a better way to handle this. Maybe make the penalty stiffer if a RSO does not comply or something. The impression I get is that it has become a big joke to LE if someone fails to register. Slap their hand and tell them they better start registering.

Just look at the signatures we saw on the registry when DN was checking in. I am no handwriting analysist but it sure looked like he missed some weeks and would just backfill and write the missing ones in whenever he showed up next. Maybe that paper didnt matter and maybe it was recorded electronically elsewhere but it sure looked like it was treated as a joke.

And the kicker is when he really does fail to register nothing serious happens. At least not up to this point.

So from his perspective he is going to keep doing what he has been doing because it is working for him. Keep moving around and staying one step ahead of LE and when they do catch up to him then rely on the court system to drop charges and plea bargain down to nothing.

My biggest fear is there will be another victim of some new offense and I think in Colorado there may have already been a victim. Its just LE cannot prove it.

 

[mtnlites]

RL is being released. He will spend the last 2 months on house arrest. I don't have a link for this that doesn't violate WS terms so, if it helps, count this as a IMO post. Could be that the dozen or so people who were live posting and sharing news from the courthouse today were wrong, but this is also what I was told by a family member who was at the courthouse today as well.

 

[kizzykat]

RL is being released. He will spend the last 2 months on house arrest.

Do you have a link, please? I've been looking and can't find anything yet. Thanks.

 

[mtnlites]

Do you have a link, please? I've been looking and can't find anything yet. Thanks.

Nothing I can share on here. Doesn't appear that the place was overrun with media today. Hopefully someone will do an official post tonight.

 

[margarita25]

O/T, from Blaze Bernstein's thread, thought it was interesting...

"The use of drones to help find Bernstein and other missing people is just one form of new technology law enforcement is using to do their jobs, said former FBI Agent and ABC News contributor Brad Garrett.

Predictive analytics, closed-circuit television, GPS darts and even experimental facial recognition are among the new tools, he said. With predictive analytics, which Garrett said is used in a number of cities, "through algorithms you start to look at crimes and through analysis you're able to maybe hone down day, time, location, technique."

He said it can "help you figure out potentially who committed the crime and maybe more predicatively when they may strike again."

Closed-circuit television (CCTV) uses algorithms that can look for specific anomalies, while GPS darts can be shot toward, and latch onto, fleeing vehicles, Garrett said. And facial recognition -- which Garrett says is being used internationally but hasn't quite caught on in the United States -- can scan faces in a crowd and "give you some basic bio-metrics" to help search for a particular person.

There are privacy concerns, Garrett said, but "most systems have safe guards built in place."

The risk "should not stop us from developing it," he added. "As the world moves on, that's where were headed. Law enforcement has to keep up with technology.""

http://abcnews.go.com/US/blaze-bern...-find-missing-upenn-student/story?id=52232836

 

[ReggieHammond]

Nothing I can share on here. I had a family member there today who sent me a message saying that he was sent home and put on house arrest for "the remainder of his sentence" and that it ends in March. There were quite a few people on SM who were there at the courthouse today live posting and sharing videos of what was going on. But those are all SM.

DN or RL?

I thought RL got 4 years?

 

[darring21]

I haven't found anything, either.

Regarding the foreclosure: did you notice this filed by Reverse Mortgage Funding and what do you think it is?

[FONT=&]Notice of Exclusion of Confidential Information[/FONT]

The reverse mortgage allows RL to stay in his home until he vacates it. For most people, this is until they go to a nursing home or die. Since he was in jail, I suspect the company is arguing the property had been vacated and the outstanding loan balance is due. If not paid, they will take possession of the property. I still think LE made a mistake going after him and in such a public way. And announcing they would go after others they encountered that had warrants.

 

[margarita25]

Thinking about DN and KN, why did they choose that specific location in CO and how did they know about it?

If DN is BG, how did he happen upon the Monan Bridge? How did he know about this area?

 

[Jax49]

The reverse mortgage allows RL to stay in his home until he vacates it. For most people, this is until they go to a nursing home or die. Since he was in jail, I suspect the company is arguing the property had been vacated and the outstanding loan balance is due. If not paid, they will take possession of the property. I still think LE made a mistake going after him and in such a public way. And announcing they would go after others they encountered that had warrants.

BBM

That still irks me. Over the years I've seen LE ignore crimes in order to get the more violent criminal, but not this time. Bad move, imho.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Nothing I can share on here. Doesn't appear that the place was overrun with media today. Hopefully someone will do an official post tonight.

I've checked rich van wyk and Alexis Mcadams twitter feeds and nothing.