IN - Amanda Blackburn, 28, pregnant, murdered, Indianapolis, 10 Nov 2015 - #2

[passionflower]

This case is baffling for sure!

 

[gingerbread]

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...dgun-not-tied-amanda-blackburn-case/75951782/.


Despite local media reports, police say they did not find a gun near the home of Amanda Blackburn.

On Saturday, a man, police said, walked into a fire station in Broad Ripple, 7 miles from the Blackburns' home on Sunnyfield Court, and said he found the gun by the couple's house.

"There is nothing, nothing, nothing tying this gun to this case," said Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department Lt. Rich Riddle. While multiple media reports have suggested that a handgun was found near the Blackburns' home, Riddle said there's nothing connecting the gun to the 28-year-old pregnant woman's death. He also said he wasn't sure why someone would pick up a gun near a known crime scene instead of calling police.

Well, that is just WEIRD. Why in the world would anyone do that? Someone trying to throw them off? Looking for their 15 minutes of fame? Just being a jerk?

 

[FlyerFan28]

Broad Ripple is nowhere near the crime scene. How very odd.

 

[deoneta]

Like many, I don't understand LE's strategy. It's been said that perhaps LE is facing a "no snitch" culture. If true, perhaps LE believes too much public information would only further hamper anyone coming forward with information. I think I remember a small ($500?) crimestoppers' reward mentioned early on. I haven't seen anything else about a reward, but rewards are incentives. Rewards also generate lots of dead end leads which have to be checked out. Maybe LE is already fairly sure of the suspect's identify but simply can't locate him. All MOO.

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Oh man. LE has sooo much, I just know it.

MOO

 

[bessie]

Right??

And this is what I'm talking about. Why is the PD not making these types of things public? Seems to me that it would be supremely useful to let the public know which ATM and when. For example, "Suspect was seen at the ATM outside of the 7-11 on X street at X time on X day. Anyone with any information should contact the PD" Bizarre.

I'm trying to think this through. A couple of thoughts: What information could be gleaned from the public? LE already knows the date, time and location. And without a doubt, they've interviewed employees of any area businesses. Of particular interest, I'd think, would be whether a vehicle was seen, or if other persons were in the company of the perp.

So, what's to gain by withholding the details? For one, it's a way to filter information. In other words, if a tipster calls in with information, the tipster will be able to provide the date, time and location, thereby proving the information is valid. It's somewhat akin to LE withholding specific details of a murder that only the true killer would know.

If, and when, LE deems it necessary, they might eventually release the details. They're the experts, and we have to be patient, and trust that they will act in the best interest of the investigation.

JMO

 

[angelainwi]

Oh man. LE has sooo much, I just know it.

MOO

Can you expand?

 

[Sulamith]

Like many, I don't understand LE's strategy. It's been said that perhaps LE is facing a "no snitch" culture. If true, perhaps LE believes too much public information would only further hamper anyone coming forward with information. I think I remember a small ($500?) crimestoppers' reward mentioned early on. I haven't seen anything else about a reward, but rewards are incentives. Rewards also generate lots of dead end leads which have to be checked out. Maybe LE is already fairly sure of the suspect's identify but simply can't locate him. All MOO.

Crime Stoppers is offering a $1,000.00 reward.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/12/us/pregnant-wife-young-pastor-killed-indianapolis/

" Sgt. Kendale Adams said. Crime Stoppers is offering a $1,000 reward for tips leading to the arrest of Blackburn's killer."

I found it strange that no private party/churches/ministries donated towards the reward money.

Perry Noble runs a mega church. $$$ Noble gave the eulogy at AB's service.

I like your comment about rewards generating dead end leads which have to be checked out. I had not thought about that before.

 

[bessie]

"There is nothing, nothing, nothing tying this gun to this case," said Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department Lt. Rich Riddle.

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...dgun-not-tied-amanda-blackburn-case/75951782/

That's a pretty emphatic statement. Perhaps they know the type of gun is different than the one used in the murder.

 

[bessie]

Crime Stoppers is offering a $1,000.00 reward.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/12/us/pregnant-wife-young-pastor-killed-indianapolis/

" Sgt. Kendale Adams said. Crime Stoppers is offering a $1,000 reward for tips leading to the arrest of Blackburn's killer."

I found it strange that no private party/churches/ministries donated towards the reward money.

Perry Noble runs a mega church. $$$ Noble gave the eulogy at AB's service.

I like your comment about rewards generating dead end leads which have to be checked out. I had not thought about that before.

It's been shown that in many instances, high rewards do lead to a large number of bogus leads. Here's one link.

Do big rewards help solve crimes?
No evidence that money is effective
February 3, 2008|By Leon Fooksman Staff Writer and Staff Researcher Barbara Hijek contributed to this report.

[...]

But crime-fighting experts warn that large rewards may undermine high-profile investigations.

[...]

A deluge of bogus leads can overwhelm investigators. Bad information can taint court testimony. Disputes can arise over how much money was promised and how to claim it. And authorities can be seen as being insensitive and discriminatory toward victims of other serious crimes for not offering bounties in their cases.

"A big reward tells other victims that their crime is diminished," said Dennis Jay Kenney, a former police officer and a criminal justice professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

[...]

Richard Carter, director of legal services for Crime Stoppers USA, an umbrella group for crime-fighting organizations, argues rewards higher than $1,000 can lead to fabrication.

"The courts know that someone for $1,000 will not perjure himself," Carter said. "For $350,000, some people would say anything they want to get the money."

 

[JadeSLeuth]

Can you expand?

I simply think that LE has a LOT. We know they have more from multiple security cameras. ATMs will have cameras that capture the face of the person using them, possibly finger prints from the machine as well; and this gun thing made it to MSM for a reason.

MOO!

 

[DexterMorgan]

It's been shown that in many instances, high rewards do lead to a large number of bogus leads. Here's one link.

Do big rewards help solve crimes?
No evidence that money is effective
February 3, 2008|By Leon Fooksman Staff Writer and Staff Researcher Barbara Hijek contributed to this report.

[...]

But crime-fighting experts warn that large rewards may undermine high-profile investigations.

[...]

A deluge of bogus leads can overwhelm investigators. Bad information can taint court testimony. Disputes can arise over how much money was promised and how to claim it. And authorities can be seen as being insensitive and discriminatory toward victims of other serious crimes for not offering bounties in their cases.

"A big reward tells other victims that their crime is diminished," said Dennis Jay Kenney, a former police officer and a criminal justice professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York.

[...]

Richard Carter, director of legal services for Crime Stoppers USA, an umbrella group for crime-fighting organizations, argues rewards higher than $1,000 can lead to fabrication.

"The courts know that someone for $1,000 will not perjure himself," Carter said. "For $350,000, some people would say anything they want to get the money."

True. But the reward is not even $1000. It is up to $1000. Which also depends on certain things. Some people just don't want the headache of truly putting themselves out there without something more substantial. Especially if they have to live in the same location after it is all said and done.

The hunt alone is costing thousands. So a 5k reward may help in the long run. Jmo

 

[Cardinal47]

This case is so disturbing because of the seemingly random nature of it. It brings home how vulnerable we all could be to violence. Wow the composure of the husband is phenomenal. It concerns me though that he says LE haven't given him much info .. It must be that they don't have much to go on and that's sort of terrifying for the community. If I lived anywhere near I wouldn't be able to relax until this murderer is caught. Long time lurker - first post.

I am pretty sure if LE is giving him information he has been told not to tell it to anybody. They are trying to catch a killer.

Probably his appearance on GMA is one of the reasons LE don't tell family much about an ongoing investigation.

Things they don't want known.

MOO

 

[bessie]

True. But the reward is not even $1000. It is up to $1000. Which also depends on certain things. Some people just don't want the headache of truly putting themselves out there without something more substantial. Especially if they have to live in the same location after it is all said and done.

The hunt alone is costing thousands. So a 5k reward may help in the long run. Jmo

I won't be surprised to see the reward in this case increase if an arrest is not made soon. A $5K, or even $10K, reward would not be considered "high".

I often see posts where members complain that rewards should be increased. So for those who question why, my post was intended to provide answers.

A few more links

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/09/AR2010100900085.html

http://www.wtoc.com/story/24543712/does-reward-money-really-help-solve-crimes

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...oney-can-expedite-crime-solving-and-sometimes

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ael-bailey-chicago-police-memorial-foundation

http://articles.latimes.com/1995-02-26/news/mn-36345_1_cash-reward

 

[al66pine]

No worries. I usually tend to fall asleep at the keyboard while still logged in on a thread. Some may think that I'm still up and ready to post. But usually that is not the case. Lol.
Sometimes I wonder if others do the same. Lol. I would see 50 people on a thread with no posting going on for hours. Lol. Good night my friend.

^bbm
Bn there, done that. LOL, looks like I am in good e-company.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I won't be surprised to see the reward in this case increase if an arrest is not made soon. A $5K, or even $10K, reward would not be considered "high".

I often see posts where members complain that rewards should be increased. So for those who question why, my post was intended to provide answers.

A few more links

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/09/AR2010100900085.html

http://www.wtoc.com/story/24543712/does-reward-money-really-help-solve-crimes

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingn...oney-can-expedite-crime-solving-and-sometimes

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ael-bailey-chicago-police-memorial-foundation

http://articles.latimes.com/1995-02-26/news/mn-36345_1_cash-reward

Well hopefully LE will tell her husband if he should or should not be concerned about trying to get up a more substantial reward via fundraising or whatever.

But so far. The 50k reward hasn't helped for Jessica Chambers. But they also didn't have her perp caught on multiple cameras from different angles.

So idk.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Remember when LE said something to the eff f of "you arent'a as smart as you think you are"? To me, that suggests the perp had a strategy here.

So what strategy involves a random quick robbery... Oops... Lady home... Shoot her in head, take nothing and run....

That all seems like only instinct and no strategy.


And I would think most low level criminals don't consider themselves smart...

I scratch my head on this...

 

[DisneyFan]

In the Tampa Bay Area a woman was burglarized, murdered for 20.00 randomly few days ago. 20.00 pretty sad to take a life. Rip

 

[Lilibet]

Marking my spot and hoping for news soon.

 

[Lilibet]

Isn't criticism of Davey Blackburn still off limits? Whether we like or dislike his message is irrelevant. A monster killed his wife and unborn child and left his son without a mother. What do his views on any subject have to do with finding his wife's killer?