I think after standing her on the handrailing, he had her ride his forearm exactly like in the Charlie Brown picture and then sat her on the handrailing with his arm loosely around her just balancing her. He leaned forward with her in front of him, pushed her behind off the railing, she slipped through his arm that wasn’t really holding on to her at all and disappeared out the window. Tragic.
I looked at the Fundrazr page for SA and it says they've raised 98% of their fundraising goal of $5,000. Only $5,000 for a legal defense fund? That would barely cover a criminal lawyer's initial retainer.
I think SA was so extremely negligent sitting a small child on a barrier clearly meant to keep people a reasonable distance from windows that open and not at all for sitting and standing, and he absolutely should have known the window was open like any reasonable person would have (for all the reasons: the noise, the breeze, the lack of tint and total clarity), I think being charged is appropriate. I also think he should be found guilty. I also believe any prison time should be minimal at best, maybe no prison time. I believe the guy is tormented. But I also think he should be held up as being legally responsible for her death, and not the cruise line. This “fix the boat” “I’m not at fault” narrative makes me very angry.
Yes, I wondered about that, too. Is the railing there so that passengers do not open the windows? It's about a foot from the window so it would make sense that it's there for that reason.
I think they just reach over and pull on the handle and drag the window open or closed. It doesn’t look like they have to climb over the barrier?
Is this the one? I had only seen part of it.
No, they wouldn't have to climb over it, I don't think there is any room to get between the metal bar and the window.
I couldn’t agree more - involving the civil lawyer just after the accident and giving those interviews (see media thread) so quickly did not help them at all IMO
The windows have inside latches (think latches facing the pool deck) and are easily accessible by passengers I’ve opened them myself - and the railing is a good 6” inside the open window ledge IMO but I will measure it next month ! I do t believe anything the attorney is saying because his accounts have also changed IMO
If the windows are an arms length close to the railing, how does SA not know it's open?
Apparently he even looked over the ledge for a second before lifting her so I'm not sure how he thought it was closed.
The railing is there IMO to have a handhold when the ship hits rough waters - windows are designed for passengers to open them - I’ve never seen any signs about not opening the windows - I thought a sleuther posted early on the cruise line rules and agreement - I’m sure it’s been discussed. Regarding the only window being opened we are only hearing this from them and the pictures were taken at night so am not sure that was the only one open but it is very windy when they are opened so it’s possible there was only one open at that time of day.
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So three campaigns on three different sites. Oy vey.
Yeah, she has her arm out and is probably about to take a step toward the dog to pet it. It looks like she might be a little shy and is hiding behind grandpa and holding onto him with her other hand.
I disagree. How can one not realise the danger, if one is looking outside the window and can see they are 11 stories high?
Here are 2 photos of SA holding Chloe, in both cases, to me, it looks like she's being held a little awkwardly. In the second one, he's holding her from underneath her. In the first one, she is seated on him but he has one arm around her also awkwardly. Maybe this is just a brief second but really from at least the photo where he's standing, she could fall. This is probably too picky of me. But I noticed this from the start because they put the new stories showed these photos from the beginning.
Oh, ok, so I guess it's not a barrier at all. I thought maybe he was breaking some kind of safety rule by lifting her over it.
