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Parents of Chloe Negligence Claim:

  • Accusing RCCL of breaching industry safety standards by having large glass windows on their ships that could be slid wide open by passengers without warning.
  • ‘Four simple words - caution these windows open - and we wouldn’t be talking about his. A sticker, a decal with the Royal Caribbean logo, anything, and Chloe is still with us.’
  • It states that Chloe and her grandfather walked towards the ‘wall of glass’ that surrounds the ship’s 11th deck unaware that the center section comprises panes that can be slid open by ‘anyone’.
  • The suit contends there was not a single warning sign, decal or safety notice to alert parents to the ‘hidden dangers’ that it argues are required by industry standards.
  • Similar cruise ships including newer boats owned by Royal Caribbean employ devices such as window screens or guards that are not present on the 2004-built Freedom of the Seas, the filing further alleges.
 
Parents of Chloe Negligence Claim:

  • Accusing RCCL of breaching industry safety standards by having large glass windows on their ships that could be slid wide open by passengers without warning.
  • ‘Four simple words - caution these windows open - and we wouldn’t be talking about his. A sticker, a decal with the Royal Caribbean logo, anything, and Chloe is still with us.’
  • It states that Chloe and her grandfather walked towards the ‘wall of glass’ that surrounds the ship’s 11th deck unaware that the center section comprises panes that can be slid open by ‘anyone’.
  • The suit contends there was not a single warning sign, decal or safety notice to alert parents to the ‘hidden dangers’ that it argues are required by industry standards.
  • Similar cruise ships including newer boats owned by Royal Caribbean employ devices such as window screens or guards that are not present on the 2004-built Freedom of the Seas, the filing further alleges.

I notice there is no mention of why he chose to ignore the safety rail. The one he (or the child in his care) was not supposed to sit, stand, lay or climb on, according to the guest conduct policy. The policy that, if adhered to, would have stopped Chloe going out through that window.

I suspect the safety rail - along with the guest conduct policy that their guests are likely referred to - is going to be the defense of Royal Caribbean.
 
Parents of Chloe Wiegand sue Royal Caribbean over her death | Daily Mail Online

  • The suit, due to be filed Wednesday, accuses the cruise company of breaching industry safety standards by having large glass windows on their ships
"....Harrowing crime scene photos taken moments after Indiana toddler Chloe Wiegand fell to her death from the 11th deck of a cruise ship can be revealed for the first time tonight as part of a bombshell negligence lawsuit that could net her parents tens of millions...." emph. mine
Hardly a "crime scene", DM.
This was an accident, according to S.A.
Unless it wasn't.


Looks like the parents are forging ahead tomorrow.
Maybe RCCL should just award them 80 million for their efforts in not backing down from the hoped-for money ?

From the first photo at the link; it's made to look like the window was open at toddler level. (Of course, consider the source ;) )



From the link-bbm
One of the images depicts the wooden handrail, 18 inches in front of the ship’s bank of window, which Anello sat Chloe on in the seconds before she fell.

Far from making things safer, the filing says this created a gap between Anello and the window and made it harder for the devastated grandparent - who is color blind - to distinguish between glass and a missing pane.“
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So 18” - quite a gap to overcome to get her in a position to be dropped to her death IMO - and guess they are back to banging on the glass and colorblind? This is an attempt to get RCCL to settle and continue to support SA - JMO
Interesting timing -a week or so before his court date?
 
I think you misunderstood the o/p topic as well as claims of negligence in civil court. The tort or theory of negligence is surely not limited to windows! Four elements of negligence apply whether it be a railing or a window.
@Seattle1 :)
Yes, possible I misunderstood the “o/p topic.” Did I say the theory of negligence is limited to windows?

Anyway, now appears now we 'll have definitive/concrete info to discuss more intelligently, after Weigands' lawsuit is filed. And I hope a link, pronto/stat/quick/ASAP/right this very minute. LOL.
 
From the link-bbm
One of the images depicts the wooden handrail, 18 inches in front of the ship’s bank of window, which Anello sat Chloe on in the seconds before she fell.

Far from making things safer, the filing says this created a gap between Anello and the window and made it harder for the devastated grandparent - who is color blind - to distinguish between glass and a missing pane.“
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So 18” - quite a gap to overcome to get her in a position to be dropped to her death IMO - and guess they are back to banging on the glass and colorblind? This is an attempt to get RCCL to settle and continue to support SA - JMO
Interesting timing -a week or so before his court date?
Yeah. Basically, this guy had to go out of his way to put his granddaughter in a dangerous situation.

There was incredible negligence here, but it sure as hell wasn't on the part of the cruise line.
 
Laws of the Sea
MAYHEM

• Death on the High Seas Act of 1920: When a death occurs more than 3 nautical miles from U.S. territory, relatives of the deceased are only entitled to recover the loss of support to themselves—not punitive damages—even if the ship has committed an “egregious act that causes the person’s death.”

• Cruise Vessel Security and Safety Act of 2010: Passed in the wake of the George Smith IV disappearance, this law seeks to improve cruise passenger safety and, in the event of rape, provide the victim with trained first responders and the ability to speak confidentially to law enforcement, lawyers and victim advocates. The law applies to vessels that provide sleeping berths for more than 250 passengers and arrive or depart from U.S. ports.

• Shipping Act of 1984, 46 U.S.C.A. § § 1701-1720: Cruise ships that depart from U.S. ports owe their passengers a heightened duty of care, basically ensuring they will not suffer physical harm and will arrive safely at their appointed destination. Specifically, this duty of care extends to protecting passengers from assault, rape and other criminal acts by crew members.

• 18 U.S.C. § 7 Special Maritime and Territorial Jurisdiction of the United States: When a crime occurs by or against a U.S. national on the high seas outside the jurisdiction of any country, and the vessel arrives or departs from a U.S. port, then the case may be investigated and tried according to U.S. law.

• Florida Statute 910.006: Florida law enforcement officers have jurisdiction when the suspect or victim of a crime is a resident of Florida or more than half of the paying passengers originally boarded and plan to disembark at a Florida port or the crime could have a “substantial effect” within Florida.

• Cruise Passenger Protection Act of 2013 (proposed): In July, Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., held hearings on the need for accurate crime reporting and safety problems. Before the bill came up for a vote, the three major cruise lines—Carnival, Royal Caribbean and Norwegian—voluntarily published on their websites a list of crimes that allegedly occurred on their ships.

MEDICAL

• Pub. L. 98-89, § 4(b), 97 Stat. 599-600 (1983): This law repealed the Act of Congress of Aug. 2, 1882—22 Stat. 186—which established the duty of vessels in the late 19th century to hire competent and qualified physicians to tend to their passengers.

• Barbetta v. S/S Bermuda Star (5th U.S. Circuit court of appeals, 1988): Cruise ships are not liable for the malpractice of the physicians they hire. “When a carrier undertakes to employ a doctor aboard ship for its passengers’ convenience, the carrier has a duty to employ a doctor who is competent and duly qualified. If the carrier breaches its duty, it is responsible for its own negligence. If the doctor is negligent in treating a passenger, however, that negligence will not be imputed to the carrier.”

MISADVENTURE

• Shipping Act of 1984, U.S.C. § 1702(6): This act also applies to “man overboard” situations, where the cruise ship owes a duty to perform a reasonable search and rescue. If the passenger cannot be quickly located aboard the ship, the captain must return to the location where the passenger was last seen and search the area. Failure to do so may result in the cruise line’s liability for the passenger’s disappearance.

• International Convention for the Safety of Life at Sea: The U.S. Coast Guard requires all ships that take on passengers at U.S. ports to adhere to specific standards regarding crew competency, fire protection, firefighting and lifesaving equipment, navigational safety, watercraft integrity and stability, vessel control, safety management and environmental protection. This applies to all passenger ships using U.S. ports, irrespective of the flag they fly.

• Merchant Marine Act of 1920, better known as The Jones Act (codified on Oct. 6, 2006 as 46 U.S.C. § 30104): Allows injured sailors a jury trial in cases involving negligence on the part of the ship owner, captain or fellow crew members. However, arbitration clauses in the sailors’ contracts often circumvent this long-established right to court access.

For vacationers encountering trouble on cruise ships, U.S. laws may provide little help
 
It seems that Royal Caribbean have a Cruise Ticket Contract with their passengers.

Cruise/Cruisetour Ticket Contract
YOUR CRUISE/CRUISETOUR TICKET CONTRACT CONTAINS IMPORTANT LIMITATIONS ON THE RIGHTS OF PASSENGERS. IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU CAREFULLY READ ALL TERMS OF THIS CONTRACT, PAYING PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO SECTION 3 AND SECTIONS 9 THROUGH 11, WHICH LIMIT OUR LIABILITY AND YOUR RIGHT TO SUE, AND RETAIN IT FOR FUTURE REFERENCE.

(Within Section 8):
Carrier's Guest Conduct Policy and Refusal to Transport policy are available online at www.RoyalCaribbean.com.

https://www.royalcaribbean.com/content/dam/royal/resources/pdf/cruise-ticket-contract.pdf
 
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CBS this morning is doing a story on the lawsuit - ABC overnight did one as well.
Here’s the local take :
Family of Granger child who fell to her death announces lawsuit against Royal Caribbean
Today's press conference starts at 10 a.m. Our Katlin Connin will be there. Watch the news conference live at 10 and catch her live report on WSBT 22 News at Midday
Family of Granger toddler who died in cruise ship fall to announce lawsuit against Royal Caribbean

SOUTH BEND — The family of a Granger toddler who died after falling from an open window on a cruise ship plans to sue Royal Caribbean Cruises for what they say is the company’s role in the child’s death.

The family of Chloe Wiegand will hold a news conference today at the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 36 in South Bend to announce the filing of the lawsuit.

According to Michael Winkleman, an attorney for the Wiegand family, the purpose of the news conference is “to continue to raise awareness about window fall dangers and to honor Chloe’s memory by fighting for justice.”

The lawsuit will be a wrongful death case against the cruise line for “the failure to have windows that are compliant with the well-established window fall prevention codes,” Winkleman said in a statement.

A spokeswoman for the family said the lawsuit will likely be filed on Tuesday in Miami.

Chloe’s parents, Alan and Kim Wiegand, and grandfather, Salvatore are scheduled to speak at the event.
 
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CBS this morning is doing a story on the lawsuit - ABC overnight did one as well.
Here’s the local take :
Family of Granger child who fell to her death announces lawsuit against Royal Caribbean
Today's press conference starts at 10 a.m. Our Katlin Connin will be there. Watch the news conference live at 10 and catch her live report on WSBT 22 News at Midday
Family of Granger toddler who died in cruise ship fall to announce lawsuit against Royal Caribbean

SOUTH BEND — The family of a Granger toddler who died after falling from an open window on a cruise ship plans to sue Royal Caribbean Cruises for what they say is the company’s role in the child’s death.

The family of Chloe Wiegand will hold a news conference today at the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 36 in South Bend to announce the filing of the lawsuit.

According to Michael Winkleman, an attorney for the Wiegand family, the purpose of the news conference is “to continue to raise awareness about window fall dangers and to honor Chloe’s memory by fighting for justice.”

The lawsuit will be a wrongful death case against the cruise line for “the failure to have windows that are compliant with the well-established window fall prevention codes,” Winkleman said in a statement.

A spokeswoman for the family said the lawsuit will likely be filed on Tuesday in Miami.

Chloe’s parents, Alan and Kim Wiegand, and grandfather, Salvatore

So, they are going to try their lawsuit in the court of public opinion?

"Fight for justice"? :rolleyes:
 
pink bolding mine

Those windows are made to be opened, for the passenger's comfort ! Who doesn't want to feel the breeze on a cruise ?

Greenberg and Winkleman don't make the rules for RCCL.

Something about S.A's behavior in those videos made the investigators uneasy.

This may be way out there... but have Winkleman and/or Greenberg ever taken a cruise ?
Did they order the other passengers to close all windows, so a baby or toddler wasn't dropped overboard ?
Do they know how idiotic that sounds ?
They need to stop repeating their mantra.
The windows are open for ventilation (otherwise it gets very hot and stuffy) and to ensure safety, the cruise line not only puts the windows about five feet off the floor and places a safety railing in front of them, so that passengers can look out but not fall out. How could they foresee that someone would deliberately circumvent the safety measures?
 
I haven't read all of the posts, so forgive me if this has already been discussed. But I just saw today that $5795 has been donated so far to a travel and legal defense fund for Sam Anello on FundRazr. It's possible that Sam will not have to pay for his defense, because of the notoriety the case will bring to his attorney-that's what I was told happened with Casey Anthony, for instance, free representation. We've already discussed other compensation received, including Royal Caribbean paying for the family's hotel rooms in PR and for their return flights home, taxpayers funding a police escort for the family from the airport to their home, insurance paying out for Chloe's loss, no one knowing for certain that amount. And we talked about the Wiegand's friends and business associates also having donated $21,810 on Fundly to the family for final expenses and travel, with any unused funds to go to an education fund for 'other siblings.' Not to mention the lawsuit. It's all so unseemly, the monetizing of this baby's death...
So the family got all kinds of compensation from RCCL, the insurance company and more, but are asking the public to make donations as well? Talk about double-dipping!
 
bbm

Why did they need a police escort ?
Are they afraid of someone ?
Do they owe money to a person or company and haven't paid them ?
Why did the taxpayers have to fund this ?
So many questions.

As far as the ins. amount on Chloe's life, one would assume the life insurance co. will not pay if they suspect there is something amiss about the manner of her death ?
Wouldn't the grandpa's charges and upcoming trial give the ins. co. pause ?
I'm assuming that since the dad is a police officer, the police escort was a courtesy. However, I hope the officers volunteered their time, since I don't see why the taxpayer should pick up the tab.
 
I'm assuming that since the dad is a police officer, the police escort was a courtesy. However, I hope the officers volunteered their time, since I don't see why the taxpayer should pick up the tab.
Yes the city of south bend employs them but I am betting they paid them either straight time or overtime depending on their regular shift
IMO
 
Yes the city of south bend employs them but I am betting they paid them either straight time or overtime depending on their regular shift
IMO
The officers were in uniform and on police motorcycles and in police cars. This family received a police escort from the airport to their home-that cost taxpayers money. The entitlement here is gross.
 
This was published in a South Bend newspaper today regarding the family holding a press conference "The news conference was originally scheduled to take place at the South Bend Police Department, but was changed to the FOP Lodge after a Tribune reporter asked a family spokeswoman why the event was taking place on city property. A spokesman for the South Bend police said the lawsuit is not associated with the department. The South Bend FOP started an online fundraiser to help pay for the toddler’s funeral and the family’s legal fees and released a statement supporting Anello after authorities filed charges against him."
 
I notice there is no mention of why he chose to ignore the safety rail. The one he (or the child in his care) was not supposed to sit, stand, lay or climb on, according to the guest conduct policy. The policy that, if adhered to, would have stopped Chloe going out through that window.

I suspect the safety rail - along with the guest conduct policy that their guests are likely referred to - is going to be the defense of Royal Caribbean.

That's the thing. Chloe could have died or been severely injured falling off the rail even if the window was closed. The pictures released by this lawyer show there was plenty of chairs around for Chloe to sit in including sitting by the window and it also shows that Chloe could have stood and watched from the bottom row of windows. Totally reckless and against ship's rules putting Chloe on the railing regardless of whether or not SA knew the window was open.
 
That's the thing. Chloe could have died or been severely injured falling off the rail even if the window was closed. The pictures released by this lawyer show there was plenty of chairs around for Chloe to sit in including sitting by the window and it also shows that Chloe could have stood and watched from the bottom row of windows. Totally reckless and against ship's rules putting Chloe on the railing regardless of whether or not SA knew the window was open.
I hope that question is asked but I doubt they will take questions - he will spin the story that the window was in the play area without providing distance measurements IMO
 
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