I don't think LE has really named any names. LE has actually said very, very little and been very vague-a lot of what we know comes from other sources/HT.
Yeah, I have a bad feeling about the entire case because it doesn't feel like it is going anywhere. Some people think it is all but solved and they are just building a case right now, but I am not sure of that at all. I think they were/are hoping the landfill search and everyone coming back for classes would reveal something. Landfill was a bust, sadly.
I wonder if they will eventually start releasing tidbits of information. I have seen other cases do that once the case went cold.
http://www.wthr.com/story/15363599/spierers-parents-concerned-message-isnt-heeded
"You can not walk by and expect somebody else to do the right thing. You have to take it upon yourself to do the right thing and that is the message we want people to hear, understand, absorb and incorporate into their behavior," Spierer said.
Interesting. Earlier she said something about calling 911 - three numbers that could change your future. Now, she refers to people "walking by". That choice of phrasing makes me think that she believes something happened outside. I've always really believed it was an accident, but now I strongly believe that. These recent statements by CS make me believe she knows something. "You can not walk by and expect somebody else to do the right thing."...seems to give some credibility to the 3:38 witness, huh?
http://www.wthr.com/story/15363599/spierers-parents-concerned-message-isnt-heeded
"You can not walk by and expect somebody else to do the right thing. You have to take it upon yourself to do the right thing and that is the message we want people to hear, understand, absorb and incorporate into their behavior," Spierer said.
Interesting. Earlier she said something about calling 911 - three numbers that could change your future. Now, she refers to people "walking by". That choice of phrasing makes me think that she believes something happened outside. I've always really believed it was an accident, but now I strongly believe that. These recent statements by CS make me believe she knows something. "You can not walk by and expect somebody else to do the right thing."...seems to give some credibility to the 3:38 witness, huh?
Oh.. I agree that they're both there. But there have also been statements from LE that indicated that another person might be there also.
LE has stated something about the two of them "making their way through the alley"...
I think that's reading way too much into what they are trying to say. Young women are still walking inebriated on campus, and the parents are upset over this. I don't see how it means anything else.
I agree that the comment from CS didn't indicate to me that she believed that someone had "walked by" LS and ignored her... but rather that MANY people who she believed were friends let her down that night...
and that CS is appalled that young women are ignoring what has recently happened (as well as the more recent incidents on/off campus) and continuing such risky behavior.
maybe instead of putting up flyers we should ALL go out during midnight to 4am... and actually approach people who are being so stupid... and offer them assistance... and a card that they can read when they're in a more sober state -- that tells them to be more careful??
If we go out at 4 am we might be the one who end up missing. What's that saying-nothing good happens after midnight.
therefore, perhaps maybe the mystery man described in the 3:38 sighting somehow hung with lauren for the next half hour or so (this explains her things being left out there) and then ended up slinging her over his shoulder...trying to get her to go home, etc. in other words, maybe she was outside that whole time between 2:57 and 3:38. it sounds like a long time, but you never know.
if, in fact, she was in a pretty bad state at that time, maybe the MM took her to where she'd said she was originally going (JR's or CR's) and panic ensued when they realized she was unconscious or whatever.
why, then, would MB say what he said? maybe because he is covering for CR who said he didn't remember what happened, but that he left lauren there. this sounds simple, but people can get worked up into tizzies when they've been out all night drinking, etc., and something goes wrong. also, at this point, JR is involved because they're perhaps at his place and/or simply because it all started at his place with the party supplies he had. thus, they are all in it together.
just a theory. let the hole-poking begin.
The "activity" in the alley (on camera) is before she ever got to CR/MB's apartment, so it could not be after she left. If she never made it to JR's, JR would have no reason to say that she did, and LE wouldn't have put that she was last seen at 4:30 am into the official timeline.
No, the alternative would be to say she never made it to his apartment and he has no idea where she is. I fail to see why he would place her into his apartment if she didn't make it there.
I do not think that the 12:16 phone use "clue" was stated to point out that anything sinister occurred, such as pre-meditation, as some have suggested. This info alone may have meant that to me, however CS also said something like "911. Three numbers that could change your future." (paraphrasing from memory). CS was quoted as though someone had a CHOICE to call 911 and didn't. This choice is usually made after an accident, or a murder that was done spontaneously. People don't generally pre-plan a murder, then chose to call 911. It's clear to me that CS believes this was an accident and that someone made the decision to not call 911, and that that decision will affect the rest of his/her life.
As to what the "clue" is really pointing to, I think it has something to do with a connection between two important statements:
1. You should ALWAYS have your cell phone with you.
2. Lauren last used HER phone at 12:16 (but didn't leave it behind at Kilroy's until two hours later).
Put those two together, and I think that's the "clue". If Lauren ALWAYS kept her cell on her, and used it often (as has been described), why the heck wasn't sure using it for two hours, during which JW was supposedly trying to reach her. This tells me that either CD thinks that JW was NOT texting her as he says, she was ignoring him, or she wasn't using her phone. If it's the latter - why?
As for JR, his statement to the effect of nobody wants him to talk to ruin the case, I think that's pretty big. I think he would likely have said, "My attorney has requested that I not speak with you." if it was regarding himself. However, IMO this sounds as though he's been asked by many to not give any statements. Having been the victim of a crime myself, I know that LE will often ask you to not discuss the case (even when there isn't much of one). We do not know what they have, however. Perhaps there's more of a "case" than we suspect and maybe the landfill was just served to find the evidence they need to convict - a body. If they do not think that they have enough evidence for a conviction, they won't make an arrest yet, so they may have enough info, but just need the body. When CS keeps requesting that people talk, it could mean that she wants someone to tell them where the body is. They do seem to keep saying, "We have to find Lauren" as opposed to "We want to find whoever did something with her", even though at this point, I think it's pretty clear that they know that someone did do something. JMO