Whether its for legal reasons or some sort of ploy, I do not understand why LE refuses to identify who was with LS in the alley but it really makes me question what went on there. If you identify one, does it rule out the others, is it better to keep them all guessing, are there more than one???
Im beginning to think there were more persons involved in the alley than just CR & LS and because of what ensued CR bailed on LS and went home without her. Something doesnt sit right with MBs story of putting CR to bed and sending LS off. I can see how MBs statement basically covers for CRs abandonment of LS in referencing LSs desire to party more. With that train of thought LS never made it to CRs or JRs. At one point there was a report that LS had been seen arguing with three individuals in the alley. ZO, AB and CR??? Another good punch might make CR bail. Now what if JW showed up in the picture, I can see how that could make CR bail as well. This could have taken place off camera after the 2:51 timestamp. Maybe even a scuffle of sorts with LS dropping her keys . I can see either AB or JW as the mystery man asking LS if he could take her home, for the time could easily be 3:30-3:40am at this point, if they had headed out to College Ave, maybe past the Dr.s office, where there werent any cameras.
Ive often pondered the reason for the 4:15 call. While never once believing LS made it, Ive tended to believe in JR for the sheer fact that he claimed to see LS leave his apt at 4:30am. Why would he say something like that if it wasnt true? Why put yourself in that situation??? Either its true, your timeline is off or . what I now favor, hes covering for himself or for someone else.
I wonder if RS has come to the same conclusion in making his statement about JR "I know he claims she made the call, but I have no reason to believe she actually made the call, In other words, what I hear RS saying is; if LS didnt make the call, LS wasnt there and if LS wasnt there, you didnt see her leave at 4:30am.
If the above is true and LS was not at JRs apt, why then did JR call DR at 4:15am, certainly not to chat? Whatever the reason he implicated himself with traceable evidence. Was he privy to certain info that he wanted to share, was he concerned about LS thru rumor or talk, was he worried about DR/DD? Was the call an attempt to find HT, rumor has it she was at DRs that night? Any of those concerns are worthy of a phone call without being guilty or terribly complicit in anything. Or was the call to DR a signal that the clean up was done or something equally sinister, which could certainly imply involvement.
Regarding the third option of why JR may have claimed what he did; to cover for someone, on his own or per the request of another Im thinking this might be where dear old HT comes into play. I believe she has something to cover for, that she knew of the 4:15am call to DR, that she knew it would be questioned and that she found a convenient way to displace/protect/deflect what transpired earlier by getting JR to state LS left his place at 4:30.
In my opinion, whoever slung LS over their shoulder at 3:38am and whoever helped dispose of LS is whom I think HT is covering for and whom she quite possibly got JR to cover for as well.
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To answer your question about HT and AB. Imo the connection here is relevant for several reasons.
I don't believe that the timeline reported by JR is correct.
I suspect that:
- ZO and AB were at SW per HT's request.
- ZO assaulted CR based on something that HT told him
- HT "helped" JR with the timeline to cover the fact that LS actually left 5 North at 3:30am
- AB was spotted "assisting" LS by an eye witness at 3:38am
- LS was removed from the area by AB or AB and ZO.
- JR is covering for HT and AB and trying to conceal his drug activity.
- JW was not involved.
- Crazy as it sounds...I think HT had very intimate feelings for LS and that is what started the ball rolling so-to-speak.<snipped>
I can fathom that HT was not pleased with her perception of LSs intentions that night, especially those regarding CR and can see her interceding. Whether it be fueling ZO into action and/or informing JW of LSs actions and her condition, I can only guess, but do strongly feel that HT was possessive/jealous in her actions toward LS.
I suspect HT touted the 4:30 timeline to cover the actions of ZO, AB and/or JWs & her own involvement. I dont think it was to help JR in the least; rather she wanted his help in selling her timeline. I cant help but think that maybe HT blamed LS for what happened that night and felt compelled to help the innocent victims of this circumstance, they didnt OD; LS allegedly did??? Her words regarding LSs actions of going too far this time seem very telling.
I think it was either AB or JW who was spotted assisting LS at 3:38am
I havent enough info to reason whether LS was removed directly from the area in question or whether she was taken back to JRs. If LS was taken back to JRs, JRs definitely involved, though Im not convinced he is. The 4:15am phone call is pivotal?
Im not so sure about JW the timeline fits in that he allegedly went to bed around 2:30 wouldnt take long to get on over to SW if HT tipped him off.
Of course all of this is my opinion and pure speculation at that.
Im beginning to think there were more persons involved in the alley than just CR & LS and because of what ensued CR bailed on LS and went home without her. Something doesnt sit right with MBs story of putting CR to bed and sending LS off. I can see how MBs statement basically covers for CRs abandonment of LS in referencing LSs desire to party more. With that train of thought LS never made it to CRs or JRs. At one point there was a report that LS had been seen arguing with three individuals in the alley. ZO, AB and CR??? Another good punch might make CR bail. Now what if JW showed up in the picture, I can see how that could make CR bail as well. This could have taken place off camera after the 2:51 timestamp. Maybe even a scuffle of sorts with LS dropping her keys . I can see either AB or JW as the mystery man asking LS if he could take her home, for the time could easily be 3:30-3:40am at this point, if they had headed out to College Ave, maybe past the Dr.s office, where there werent any cameras.
Ive often pondered the reason for the 4:15 call. While never once believing LS made it, Ive tended to believe in JR for the sheer fact that he claimed to see LS leave his apt at 4:30am. Why would he say something like that if it wasnt true? Why put yourself in that situation??? Either its true, your timeline is off or . what I now favor, hes covering for himself or for someone else.
I wonder if RS has come to the same conclusion in making his statement about JR "I know he claims she made the call, but I have no reason to believe she actually made the call, In other words, what I hear RS saying is; if LS didnt make the call, LS wasnt there and if LS wasnt there, you didnt see her leave at 4:30am.
If the above is true and LS was not at JRs apt, why then did JR call DR at 4:15am, certainly not to chat? Whatever the reason he implicated himself with traceable evidence. Was he privy to certain info that he wanted to share, was he concerned about LS thru rumor or talk, was he worried about DR/DD? Was the call an attempt to find HT, rumor has it she was at DRs that night? Any of those concerns are worthy of a phone call without being guilty or terribly complicit in anything. Or was the call to DR a signal that the clean up was done or something equally sinister, which could certainly imply involvement.
Regarding the third option of why JR may have claimed what he did; to cover for someone, on his own or per the request of another Im thinking this might be where dear old HT comes into play. I believe she has something to cover for, that she knew of the 4:15am call to DR, that she knew it would be questioned and that she found a convenient way to displace/protect/deflect what transpired earlier by getting JR to state LS left his place at 4:30.
In my opinion, whoever slung LS over their shoulder at 3:38am and whoever helped dispose of LS is whom I think HT is covering for and whom she quite possibly got JR to cover for as well.
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To answer your question about HT and AB. Imo the connection here is relevant for several reasons.
I don't believe that the timeline reported by JR is correct.
I suspect that:
- ZO and AB were at SW per HT's request.
- ZO assaulted CR based on something that HT told him
- HT "helped" JR with the timeline to cover the fact that LS actually left 5 North at 3:30am
- AB was spotted "assisting" LS by an eye witness at 3:38am
- LS was removed from the area by AB or AB and ZO.
- JR is covering for HT and AB and trying to conceal his drug activity.
- JW was not involved.
- Crazy as it sounds...I think HT had very intimate feelings for LS and that is what started the ball rolling so-to-speak.<snipped>
I can fathom that HT was not pleased with her perception of LSs intentions that night, especially those regarding CR and can see her interceding. Whether it be fueling ZO into action and/or informing JW of LSs actions and her condition, I can only guess, but do strongly feel that HT was possessive/jealous in her actions toward LS.
I suspect HT touted the 4:30 timeline to cover the actions of ZO, AB and/or JWs & her own involvement. I dont think it was to help JR in the least; rather she wanted his help in selling her timeline. I cant help but think that maybe HT blamed LS for what happened that night and felt compelled to help the innocent victims of this circumstance, they didnt OD; LS allegedly did??? Her words regarding LSs actions of going too far this time seem very telling.
I think it was either AB or JW who was spotted assisting LS at 3:38am
I havent enough info to reason whether LS was removed directly from the area in question or whether she was taken back to JRs. If LS was taken back to JRs, JRs definitely involved, though Im not convinced he is. The 4:15am phone call is pivotal?
Im not so sure about JW the timeline fits in that he allegedly went to bed around 2:30 wouldnt take long to get on over to SW if HT tipped him off.
Of course all of this is my opinion and pure speculation at that.