Lots of good thinking lately.
1) For those that think House Bar and LS wandering around on other excursions including venturing over to JW's, etc... This has seemed implausible to some of us because her last known state was that of someone who could not talk, kept slamming her head on the ground/gravel/concrete and was being literally carried by CR or propped up by him. The altercation where CR gets clocked by ZO at SW has always been very peculiar and it's lack of LE attention has made it even more strange. If this altercation was about CR having put LS into such a terrible situation, why not take over and "help" LS back to her apt... since she was already on the way. Was she not also already in the elevator falling down trying to get out of it? Why would ZO and company allow CR to take her elsewhere if they were such chivalrous knights? So, didn't appear to me that they were so concerned about LS. The prevailing theory is that LS had consumed alcohol, klonopin (which has been backed up by some fuzzy heresay from DR), and possibly other substances voluntarily or involuntarily. As it happens OD on Klonopin alone can cause the symptomatic behavior witnessed and recorded on video. LS suffered serious injuries to her head. Both of these things (the drug induced state; unable to talk, falling, and loss of consciousness, as well as; Head injuries from multiple serious falls either witnessed or recorded) created a situation where LS was most likely either completely unconscious / comatose or rotating between comatose blackouts and bouts of consciousness.
2) With LS being unconscious it does open up for the possibility that someone tried taking advantage of the situation and attempted intercourse. Who? That would seem to point more towards CR that anyone else. Now consider again, the image of LS last recorded moments on camera - the actual last time we can believe with any certainty of her whereabouts. Lauren exited that alley and fell face down, without blocking. Her wallet and keys (minus her fake ID and SW keycard) were found very close to this spot and put up on a railing within minutes of this fall. But she was no longer there.
My thinking is from original LE statements that there was some sort of "activity" at the end of the alley. This was before PI's let it be known that the "activity" was her falling face down like she was out cold. Lately I have wondered if LE's "activity" includes a bit more... if they could see her fall... they could see her get up... or someone drag her or pick her up. Dragged or Picked up would be CR. He was right there with her. LE should know if she were assisted back up, was picked up or was just pulled away.
3) From there, carried, propped or dragged it's a short distance to the blind area behind 5N. This blind area were only a few parked, 5N visitors parked, a wooden fence around the dumpster blocks the view from the alley area. I call it a blind area because of this and because there are no cameras here, it's very dark also having some trees to block light and create visibility barriers, and few windows with visibility even from the 5N building itself. Since CR lived there, he would have known just how blind it was. We know that CR made it home and 5N is where he lived. And LS supposedly made it to 5N too. Whether or not she ever got passed the blind area is a good question. Everything else we know after this is based on statements from MB, MB's lawyer and JR. The person last actually known to be with her was CR and he conveniently has amnesia. MB(especially)'s and JR's stories are very inconsistent with the events leading up to LS making it to 5N(if we are to believe she made it, and most likely that she would have been carried or propped were it true).
So, as Bessie asked, why would JR take it upon himself to be known as the last person to supposedly see her if it weren't true? My answer to this has been to cover for someone else and misdirect attention from not only the someone but location as well. We all know that drugs are a given in this scenario; the depth and complexity of the drugs has been speculated as one reason for motivation of such a cover up and a reason for hiding LS's body. It's also been speculated that evidence of rape or other foul play may have been the reason to cause LS to vanish. It would seem unlikely that JR would cover for that unless he were also directly involved. It's also known that JR had family ties with LS's family this also making him the more diplomatic liaison to deal with them.
I recall events of the following day when LS's dad arrives with JW and they quickly are on the path of CR and JR. How did they figure all of that out so quickly? We know about the cameras but that day, LS's dad and JW didn't know any of that. What if JR had denied seeing her? Well then everything would point squarely at CR and MB. So JR is taking the heat off of CR and MB. It also appears that MB is covering up for CR and possibly himself as well. MB's statements only make sense because JR's align with them. All that's needed to make this type of conspiracy work is a simple deal between MB and JR, and CR just has to not say anything. But yes, WHY cover up for CR?
If the cover up were not about rape, and not drugs, then what?
Scenario: CR carried or dragged LS to the blind area near the 5N dumpster. She's clearly got serious injuries and looks like she's been beaten, even though its really from repeatedly falling. CR realizes that she is dead or suspects it. He goes up to get help. MB comes to take a look. CR / MB discuss what would happen if LE were called. CR is crocked and high, and there lies a small beautiful LS appearing to have been beaten to death, with inebriated CR being the last known person with her. The fear of how LE would respond and treat CR in this scenario would certainly be motivation to begin a simple cover up. Now, MB realizes they have to get JR involved so MB calls JR at 3:30 (it was MB's cell phone to JR's right?). So JR comes down to have a look and agrees but only because CR is coherent enough to explain that LS's injuries were from falling. CR is able to convince JR. So, now we are left with who took the body and what did they do with it? And then JR's 2 clean up calls at 4:15 to DR and ?
This scenario is very similar to these same events taking place in CR/MB's apartment.
Either way, It does seem that JR saw LS's injuries.
Also, from early reports I thought it was stated that other POI's had been at CR/MB's or came over from JR's to CR/MB's and had witnessed LS there. So if this (at least one) other POI, possibly the out of town visitor of JR's also saw LS at this time, they are just as much on the hook.
LE's actions following LS's disappearance seem to follow some of this. It was as though LE saw through CR's B.S. and so they searched CR's car. So LE may be on to much of this, they just can't prove it. And of course, just who took LS out of there?
bumping your post....ok your theory, which is made up of many good points from different theories, not saying you put them together, is completely logical and plausible. there is room, however, for theories that start out like your's, but have a different outcome. Say CR dragged LS as you say, up the alley, and then right out of camera vision, she falls down comatose and he goes to MB for help. When they come back, she's gone. So they go to JR's
and she's not there. Then someone (we don't know who) tells them they saw
Mr. X (drug dealer) with LS over his shoulder at 3:38 a.m carrying her away.
That someone tells them they better say the last time they saw her she was walking away towards home. CR decides he can't handle this and pleads amnesia, which cannot really be refuted because so many saw him get punched while really drunk, unless someone squeals.
This isn't my theory at all, but I put it together using a few theories.
I never said these guys were not culpable--they contributed to her demise, and yes they can lose in civil court IMO right now. I don't think they actually
hid her body. IMO, as a Bloomington native, I feel she was taken by someone who knows the terrain very well.
Bloomington is this really pretty, liberal, cool place to live but it has a small,
really super seedy underbelly. About 10 years ago, I had been quaffing red wine and decided to call a cab. I noticed there were 2 passengers in the back, and the cab driver said do you want to get in front, I just have to drop
these people off. I didn't even check the people out (dumb!) because it was late, and hey I was slightly drunk. The cab starts going, and going, further out of town, and all the sudden it dawned on me (dumb) that they could be abducting me! We're out in the country now, and I'm wigging, and asking God
not to let them kill me, trying to be cool, and we pull up to a farmhouse.
I turn around as they are getting out, and one butchy guy all leathered out has another guy with really long hair, waist lenth, on a long, heavy chain and
collar. He's like, "he doesn't get out much. See ya'll later." And drags the guy,
pleasantly yanks the guys, out of the car and up the drive. I'm like OMG, WTF, thank you Jesus!
