GUILTY IN - Ryan Martin, 29, murdered in suspect Talmadge Jasper's home, Lafayette, 23 May 2019

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I was thinking about the handsome, smiling face of Ryan Martin and thinking how sad for his little daughter not getting to see him anymore. (Just looking at his smiling photos, makes me smile right back at him.) Every Father's Day so gut wrenching. Even the elementary school traditions we all take for granted, will be filled with sorrow. I remember teachers having us make Mother & Father's Day Cards to give to our parents. Multi colored construction paper cut outs....mostly flowers and stars, tons of glue and glitter. Sometimes we do not stop to think about the huge void in the lives of victim's family and children, forever! Sadly the perps (and their reps) always want the patience, understanding and mercy they never extended to their victims!
 

MOO she has probably been keeping him out of trouble for a long time. At 19 he made his decisions, and the decisions are his alone. Hopefully she can see that, and that he needs to pay back for taking a life, if he ever is to become a self respecting man.
 
@Boxer everything I have seen online is that TJ was a very good kid. I seen one post online that he was involved in his church, worked, good grades. MOO it was probably a shock to TJ family to. I was trying to find the post on wlfi that talked about this. It said TJ came from a good family. I still feel like in MOO there is more then what we have. I will be interested to see how it all plays out. If it comes out that everything the media said was true and there isn't anything else then he will have to deal with the choice that was made.
 
Boxer said:
Only two months till the pretrial meeting. It will be interesting to see what happens.
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@Boxer I was thinking the same thing. Do you think there will be a pretrial meeting? The one case in Lafayette that just happened. It was 2 years before they went to trial. MOO I wouldn't be shocked if it is continued
 
Purduegirl12 said:
It was on here. I can't find it now since there is so many comments. But someone mentioned that maybe he was.
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MOO searching threads works pretty well on WS. Here it is.
MistyWaters said:
Yes the premeditated part is what doesn’t make a lot of sense considering the body was found in TJs closet. I wonder where RMs vehicle was eventually found?

I’m sure there’ll be more evidence heard during the trial but IF on the off chance (innocent until proven guilty) somebody attempted to frame TJ and RM did leave, then later his body was placed in TJs closet while TJ wasn’t at his home, all we know for now is the highly incriminating evidence coming from the three young women - SR, TJs girlfriend and her friend which certainly appears to nail the case shut. IE, TJ going to SRs, TJ announcing RM was coming over, the removal and hiding of the bloody cushions, etc.

Why I’m look forward to hearing if there’s more to the story is because on the surface this case didn’t require any intensity of police work whatsoever to solve. If only crime solving were all so easy, the perp giving himself away like this.
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MOO TJ could have got away with it if the missing person report had gone its normally slow pace and given TJ time to clean up. He was making the right moves - getting RM's car back to his house, making it look like RM went missing from there. The Lafayette police are to be commended, often enough follow up is not as tight.
 
Purduegirl12 said:
@Boxer everything I have seen online is that TJ was a very good kid. I seen one post online that he was involved in his church, worked, good grades. MOO it was probably a shock to TJ family to. I was trying to find the post on wlfi that talked about this. It said TJ came from a good family. I still feel like in MOO there is more then what we have. I will be interested to see how it all plays out. If it comes out that everything the media said was true and there isn't anything else then he will have to deal with the choice that was made.
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MOO
Jasper is not a "good kid," he is a troubled young man that killed another man. Probably over obsessive jealousy.
Blunt force blows with trauma to the head and ligature strangulation. Really vicious, extremely personal and intentional.

The media has just reported the police statements and the criminal charges.
 
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Boxer said:
MOO
Jasper is not a "good kid," he is a troubled young man that killed another man. Probably over obsessive jealousy.
Blunt force blows with trauma to the head and ligature strangulation. Really vicious, extremely personal and intentional.

The media has just reported the police statements and the criminal charges.
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I think @Purduegirl12 is possibly referring to his school days. She said he was a good kid.
 


Boxer said:
MOO
Jasper is not a "good kid," he is a troubled young man that killed another man. Probably over obsessive jealousy.
Blunt force blows with trauma to the head and ligature strangulation. Really vicious, extremely personal and intentional.

The media has just reported the police statements and the criminal charges.
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BOXER, Excellent moniker for a poster who "gets in the ring" and succinctly posts their opinion. As opposed to me, who dances all over the ring....afraid to throw any punches and hopes the opposition will just wear out watching my fancy footwork!:D:D:D
Purduegirl12 said:
@Boxer everything I have seen online is that TJ was a very good kid. I seen one post online that he was involved in his church, worked, good grades. MOO it was probably a shock to TJ family to. I was trying to find the post on wlfi that talked about this. It said TJ came from a good family. I still feel like in MOO there is more then what we have. I will be interested to see how it all plays out. If it comes out that everything the media said was true and there isn't anything else then he will have to deal with the choice that was made.
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Purduegirl, I agree with you on this point..."deal with the choices" ..' I can't even imagine having to spend the rest of my life living with the choices I made at 18. Just tragedy beyond comprehension.
One msm article I read, written May 30, 2019 before the court information was sealed, contained a lot of details. Citing TJ's intelligence, church attendance, "good family," juxtaposed to the gravity of the charges against him: violating a restraining order, residential entry, and intentional murder will not sit well with a jury. Rather it implies to me an escalating pattern of violence that will be presented by prosecutors. We all have a past, but TJ will be judged by the actions he took that day. I have no reason to believe the newspaper who published the story did not
validate the information from the affidavit before reporting its contents. I have nothing but empathy for the family, as I am sure they are caring and loving. I sense a young man fighting a losing battle with severe mental illness taking over his life.
Ugh...such a tragedy.
"How a Lafayette murder suspect planned to kill his ex’s boyfriend, according to an affidavit"
How a Lafayette murder suspect planned to kill his ex’s boyfriend, according to an affidavit
 
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Purduegirl12 said:
@Boxer I was thinking the same thing. Do you think there will be a pretrial meeting? The one case in Lafayette that just happened. It was 2 years before they went to trial. MOO I wouldn't be shocked if it is continued
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According to MyCase there is pretrial meeting scheduled in September. But of course it could go into a plea deal at that time. I think it will. There is no innocent by insanity defense in Indiana - a defendant can plead guilty with mental illness as a mitigating factor, but the net result is they spend time in a mental health facility getting stabilized enough begin their regular sentence in prison.
MOO if TJ does have mental heath issues I assume he is stabilizing now due to routine medication and simple demands.
If so, MOO he needs to take this time of clarity to take responsibility, by pleading honestly, serving his time and making restitution.
MOO if he is trying to get off light at the expense of the truth, or making a disingenuous defense, especially one that involves defaming his victim, then he is not sorry nor understanding the scope of his damage.
And sadly for him and his family trying to evade his responsibility will keep this tragedy ever unresolved. Then MOO he will continue a life of clever escapes, rationalizations and obsessions.
 
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IQuestion said:
I was thinking about the handsome, smiling face of Ryan Martin and thinking how sad for his little daughter not getting to see him anymore. (Just looking at his smiling photos, makes me smile right back at him.) Every Father's Day so gut wrenching. Even the elementary school traditions we all take for granted, will be filled with sorrow. I remember teachers having us make Mother & Father's Day Cards to give to our parents. Multi colored construction paper cut outs....mostly flowers and stars, tons of glue and glitter. Sometimes we do not stop to think about the huge void in the lives of victim's family and children, forever! Sadly the perps (and their reps) always want the patience, understanding and mercy they never extended to their victims!
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@IQuestion what do you mean when you said "and their reps"
 
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