In your opinion, why do you think Ron and Misty REALLY got married?

[newsjunkie]

BBM. ITA. Since when does a parent state, (paraphrase) 'I would give my life to have her life back'? BACK, being the operative word here.

As for love? In my opinion it looks like lust gone wrong, terribly wrong, chaining 2 people together for all the wrong reasons. But, that's just my opinion - I don't like to make my posts sound like facts when they're not.

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[Tom'sGirl]

The topic of this thread is:

In your opinion, why do you think Ron and Misty REALLY got married?

Lets stick to the Topic please

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Ronald does not have to ask her what happened (IMO, IMO, IMO) he knows exactly what happened to HaLeigh and instructed Misty what to say to authorities. She keeps forgetting the script she was given.

There was no script and she told him everything she knows about Haleigh going missing, imo. Do you have a link saying he knows what happened to Haleigh and how he instructed her on what to say? I don't think saying, "I do" is a script.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I think it's silly for anyone to say why MC and RC got married. Of course, unless we know them, we couldn't possibly know. IMO it was not for love.

The little things I just can't get passed:

-- Body language. During their wedding, there was not a lick of happiness in RC's face or body language. On the couch on the Today Show - I saw a lot of tension. And then there's the way MC looked at RC like a deer caught in headlights when asked "why the inconsistencies?"

-- MC's statement to RC when he got home the night Haleigh went missing "The back door's open and yer daughter's gone"

-- RC's response several times when asking about that night "I don't know I was at work" - and usually with a smirk and casual shrug of the shoulders

-- All the shadiness and weirdness in both these families and, well, pretty much the whole community. I know I shouldn't judge off this, but everyone around them is just too bizarre to ignore.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

But that isn't what he said. He was asked directly if he had talked to Misty about the events that night and he replied that he had not.

There is no way I believe he wasn't told directly by Misty what she remembers from the "events that night". He would not have married her if he had lingering doubts, IMO. Also...IMO...he didn't "grill" her after she told him what she remembered as there was nothing else for her TO tell him.

It is important to note the family must believe Misty, too. We have not seen any of them shun her or act otherwise. They took her into their family with open arms...IMO.

 

[newsjunkie]

-snipped by me- Ronald doesn't have to defend himself for marrying Misty. He wouldn't have done it, IMO, without love being the reason. He didn't marry Crystal. He didn't marry Amber.

Him not choosing to marry Crystal or Amber does not in and of itself mean that the reason he chose to marry Misty is love. It simply means he chose to.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think it's silly for anyone to say why MC and RC got married. Of course, unless we know them, we couldn't possibly know. IMO it was not for love. It is the main reason people get married besides pregnancy and as far as we know...she wasn't pregnant so I do think love was the reason. (I don't need a list of other possible reasons either.)

The little things I just can't get passed:

-- Body language. During their wedding, there was not a lick of happiness in RC's face or body language. On the couch on the Today Show - I saw a lot of tension. And then there's the way MC looked at RC like a deer caught in headlights when asked "why the inconsistencies?" We only saw snippets of the wedding. Granted, Ronald wasn't smiling and bubbly in what we did see...he was missing Haleigh, IMO. It doesn't mean he wasn't happy to be getting married to Misty. Yes, there was tension on the Today Show. Ronald cannot explain the "inconsistencies" especially since Misty cannot because she honestly doesn't know what happened because she was asleep, IMO.

-- MC's statement to RC when he got home the night Haleigh went missing "The back door's open and yer daughter's gone" What else was she going to say if it is what happened?

-- RC's response several times when asking about that night "I don't know I was at work" - and usually with a smirk and casual shrug of the shoulders. Ronald was at work which has been proven, IMO. He was asked the same question a million times over. I would have to assume he was quite tired of answering it.

-- All the shadiness and weirdness in both these families and, well, pretty much the whole community. I know I shouldn't judge off this, but everyone around them is just too bizarre to ignore.

The whole community? I am quite certain there are wonderful people in Satsuma. It appears to be a difficult place to live and raise children, but many call it home. Poverty levels and difficulty finding jobs in the area can make a difference, but it doesn't mean the people are kidnappers or worse. This could be someone entirely from outside of the community who took Haleigh and a stranger to both sides.

My hope is Ronald, Misty, and Rj will leave the area and, quite frankly, the state to start over somewhere else. We would welcome them with open arms here. As newlyweds, they have a long road ahead and with Haleigh missing the chances of them making it are even more slim. I want to see them have every chance at a successful marriage for Rj and Haleigh's sakes.

When and if she comes home...I want her to have a happy home to return to where she is loved and part of a real family.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Him not choosing to marry Crystal or Amber does not in and of itself mean that the reason he chose to marry Misty is love. It simply means he chose to.

Exactly! No one forced him into marrying Misty.

 

[Annie]

The whole community? I am quite certain there are wonderful people in Satsuma. It appears to be a difficult place to live and raise children, but many call it home. Poverty levels and difficulty finding jobs in the area can make a difference, but it doesn't mean the people are kidnappers or worse. This could be someone entirely from outside of the community who took Haleigh and a stranger to both sides.

My hope is Ronald, Misty, and Rj will leave the area and, quite frankly, the state to start over somewhere else. We would welcome them with open arms here. As newlyweds, they have a long road ahead and with Haleigh missing the chances of them making it are even more slim. I want to see them have every chance at a successful marriage for Rj and Haleigh's sakes.

When and if she comes home...I want her to have a happy home to return to where she is loved and part of a real family.

I think it would be a shame to leave the state and take RJ away from his mother being able to see him on a regular basis. One child has already disappeared from their watch, and I believe they are responsible. If Haleigh comes home I hope she has a happy home too, but I do not believe that could or should be with Ron and Misty.

 

[Blackwatch]

Okay, Where did my post stating the exact opposite of SS go? Thanks guys. I appreciate the welcome. I mean the mods or whoever is removing posts. Haven't posted in 2 days and now I have 3 gone? What did I do wrong or fill me in if we need to staighten up for LE. geez......

Dr. Know, it really doesn't matter where your post, in direct opposition to SS's pro Ron & Misty's being "in love" post went. When all is said and done nothing ANY of us say on these boards will have a direct bearing on Haleigh's fate, or the chains/marriage that now tether(s) Ron and his teen-aged bride together. Let them enjoy what "God hath joined together," as best they can, and I will now stop and say a little prayer for Crystal, Haleigh's real mother. God knows the poor lady needs prayers in her time of trouble with the loss of her first-born child and anxiety over the safety of her second.

My opinion only

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think it would be a shame to leave the state and take RJ away from his mother being able to see him on a regular basis. One child has already disappeared from their watch, and I believe they are responsible. If Haleigh comes home I hope she has a happy home too, but I do not believe that could or should be with Ron and Misty.

How sad would it have been for Elizabeth Smart to come home only to be taken away from her loving family because they slept through her abduction?! They were responsible for hiring the man who abducted her and not having their alarm system on that night, but it doesn't mean they should lose their children.

Ronald and Misty are married. They are now a real family. Misty is the stepmother to Haleigh and Rj legally. The chance they would prevail over an unmarried couple in court is high, IMO. There is no proof anyone in this family had anything to do with Haleigh's abduction unless LE has it and they are allowing this to continue for some reason. Until the time they come forward with proof...Ronald and Misty are still legal custodians of both children.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

How sad would it have been for Elizabeth Smart to come home only to be taken away from her loving family because they slept through her abduction?! They were responsible for hiring the man who abducted her and not having their alarm system on that night, but it doesn't mean they should lose their children.

Ronald and Misty are married. They are now a real family. Misty is the stepmother to Haleigh and Rj legally. The chance they would prevail over an unmarried couple in court is high, IMO. There is no proof anyone in this family had anything to do with Haleigh's abduction unless LE has it and they are allowing this to continue for some reason. Until the time they come forward with proof...Ronald and Misty are still legal custodians of both children.

BBM - The difference with the Smart family is that they lived in a good size house and Elizabeth was in a seperate room. The kidnapper came in through an open window in that room. IIRC, her sister, in the same room, witnessed it. Haleigh was supposedly taken from a small trailer where the kidnapper broke in to a dead bolt locked door, propped it open and flipped on the light. Then he walked through the trailer and into the bedroom where an adult was and snatched her. Unless under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol (which would be negligent), I just can't see MC sleeping through that. I'm not saying either had anything to do with this, BUT something negligent happened here and I guarantee MC is NOT being honest.

Where did you get the info that the Smart family hired someone to kidnap Elizabeth?

I'm sorry, but calling RC and this barely 17 y/o girl he knew for a short time and decided to run out and get married right after Haleigh went missing a family is an insult. She's a child who was most likely involved in drugs and cheating on him. THAT is not a family.

Regarding the fact there isn't proof anyone in the family is involved - that is correct. But, they don't have proof of ANYONE who has involvement NOR do they have proof anyone in the family is NOT involved.

 

[debs]

There is no way I believe he wasn't told directly by Misty what she remembers from the "events that night". He would not have married her if he had lingering doubts, IMO. Also...IMO...he didn't "grill" her after she told him what she remembered as there was nothing else for her TO tell him.

It is important to note the family must believe Misty, too. We have not seen any of them shun her or act otherwise. They took her into their family with open arms...IMO.

But that is not what he said. He was asked if he talked with Misty and he said NO. I've got to take him at his word because it calls for speculation if i do not.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

BBM - The difference with the Smart family is that they lived in a good size house and Elizabeth was in a seperate room. The kidnapper came in through an open window in that room. IIRC, her sister, in the same room, witnessed it. Haleigh was supposedly taken from a small trailer where the kidnapper broke in to a dead bolt locked door, propped it open and flipped on the light. Then he walked through the trailer and into the bedroom where an adult was and snatched her. Unless under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol (which would be negligent), I just can't see MC sleeping through that. I'm not saying either had anything to do with this, BUT something negligent happened here and I guarantee MC is NOT being honest.

Where did you get the info that the Smart family hired someone to kidnap Elizabeth?

I'm sorry, but calling RC and this barely 17 y/o girl he knew for a short time and decided to run out and get married right after Haleigh went missing a family is an insult. She's a child who was most likely involved in drugs and cheating on him. THAT is not a family.

Regarding the fact there isn't proof anyone in the family is involved - that is correct. But, they don't have proof of ANYONE who has involvement NOR do they have proof anyone in the family is NOT involved.

Ed Smart hired the man who kidnapped Elizabeth to do odd jobs prior to her going missing. He did not hire him to kidnap anyone. She was also in a room with her sister who was later responsible for helping to find Elizabeth.

Jessica Lunsford was also in a small mobile home with her grandparents sleeping in close quarters yet she was taken without disturbing them. Drugs/alcohol played no role in the abduction.

Reyes (arrested recently) was another one who went into a home to abduct a child stopping to go through closets and drawers prior to taking her out to the garage while people were sleeping in the next room. Drugs/alcohol played no role in the abduction.

There is a man who was arrested here for raping at least 18 people...many of his young victims were taken while sleeping in the same room with others then he returned them to their beds. It took them 4 years to finally catch him. Drugs/alcohol were of no factor in many of the abductions.

I am only pointing out the many cases where this has happened and it was a stranger who slipped into the homes while taking their time to abduct a child. This is only a handful, but there are many more.

Whatever happened between Misty and Ronald prior to them getting married obviously was patched up and forgiven. Couples have been known to have split for various reasons and marry soon after getting back together. It has been looked at and nothing came to light which had a bearing on Haleigh going missing, imo.

Misty and Ronald's choice to marry came at such a time where Ronald appeared to be losing all hope, imo. I think it was good for him to get married and have someone by his side during this nightmare even if the world didn't agree with their timing.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

But that is not what he said. He was asked if he talked with Misty and he said NO. I've got to take him at his word because it calls for speculation if i do not.

Sorry, I don't believe she did not tell him that night what she knew and I believe he mispoke if it was the intention to say she never told him.

 

[elle1919]

Dr. Know, it really doesn't matter where your post, in direct opposition to SS's pro Ron & Misty's being "in love" post went. When all is said and done nothing ANY of us say on these boards will have a direct bearing on Haleigh's fate, or the chains/marriage that now tether(s) Ron and his teen-aged bride together. Let them enjoy what "God hath joined together," as best they can, and I will now stop and say a little prayer for Crystal, Haleigh's real mother. God knows the poor lady needs prayers in her time of trouble with the loss of her first-born child and anxiety over the safety of her second.

My opinion only

My bold, to disagree, I feel that your statement is completely untrue. I have been researching and sleuthing Haleigh's case day in and day out, I sit up at night reading up on Satsuma and past cases there, I have personally made phone calls to local authorities to ask questions and sent over 30 emails. I paid a membership fee so that I could perform background searches, which by the way didn't help me at all to find out what I wanted to know....lol. I have read each and every post in this thread including the very first threads that we had for Haleigh before she had her own forum....probably 3 or 4 times. And the fact that we have locals from Satsuma that come to these threads for Haleigh,(thank you by the way)well, I just think the statement that you made is not true. We all come here because we care, will something that we uncover or stumble upon get us closer to Haleigh? I think yes, and there is hope. There are so many many bright minds here, sometimes I am in awe. I have only been a member since November but I stay in Haleigh's forum because no-one can say we have no direct bearing on Haleigh's fate, even if she is gone we can still have a bearing on where she rests. Okay, I'll stop now, but that is my honest opinion.

 

[debs]

Sorry, I don't believe she did not tell him that night what she knew and I believe he mispoke if it was the intention to say she never told him.

I don't believe he didn't ask her, either, SS. I also will not call what he said "misspeak." He said it quite clearly and quite adamantly. I would call it deception, because as we both have indicated, we believe there WAS a discussion.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't believe he didn't ask her, either, SS. I also will not call what he said "misspeak." He said it quite clearly and quite adamantly. I would call it deception, because as we both have indicated, we believe there WAS a discussion.

How many interviews did he sit beside her or hear her tell her story? We know he heard it.

I think he saw the question as did he put her through a meat grinder to get her to tell him everything she knew...and his answer was adamant...no, he did not.

So no...I don't think he lied or was trying to deceive anyone. They were flown out there hours after they were married and I would expect they were both more than a little tired on so little sleep. (Most newlyweds are not sleeping on their wedding night and I would have to assume they got little sleep.) This is why I feel there was so much tension on top of them having to be on national television which is unnerving by itself. Toss in a lack of sleep, a wedding which people are judging you, and a missing child...it creates stress which lends itself to statements perhaps not coming out as you meant them.

 

[debs]

How many interviews did he sit beside her or hear her tell her story? We know he heard it.

I think he saw the question as did he put her through a meat grinder to get her to tell him everything she knew...and his answer was adamant...no, he did not.

So no...I don't think he lied or was trying to deceive anyone. They were flown out there hours after they were married and I would expect they were both more than a little tired on so little sleep. (Most newlyweds are not sleeping on their wedding night and I would have to assume they got little sleep.) This is why I feel there was so much tension on top of them having to be on national television which is unnerving by itself. Toss in a lack of sleep, a wedding which people are judging you, and a missing child...it creates stress which lends itself to statements perhaps not coming out as you meant them.

They didn't have to be on national television. They chose to go. I agree it would be unnerving. But since you're listing stressors, I would have thought the missing child would have been enough to suggest to them to NOT get married right then. But they did, so what people thought of them getting married can't have been too much of a problem for them. As you suggest here, they most likely even lost sleep for the "honeymoon night."

But I cannot interpret why Ronald said what he said with such assurance as you do.

 

[Busylady]

I have said several times I do not understand the timing of the wedding, the last few days I have been really thinking about this. Sometimes when something tragic happens you cling to those you love and trust, you realize you have wasted time and not done some of the things you intended to do. You realize your life, hopes and dreams can change in a minute. I realize people will say Haleigh was missing and that is different than other tragic situations, but RC is hanging on with everything he has, in this moment he has lost a very big part of his life and has to feel lost. If marrying Misty bonds them all together, gives them strength, and hope then who are we to say it is wrong. I would gather to say that Haleigh was on all their minds during that entire wedding ceremony she was not forgotten. They have a tough row ahead of them and I wish them the best of luck, and I pray that very soon Haleigh will be back home with her father, stepmother, and brother where she belongs.