Interim discussion regarding questions from the jury and Arias on the stand #79

[Quester]

new here!

do you guys know where I can find trial evidence info?

like the email where TA calls JA a sociopath?

During the Casey Anthony trial there was a place you could see all the interviews of the people questioned, phone records, etc.

Thought I saw it on here.

Can anyone help?

:welcome:

Here's a link to the media thread:
websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195462


Here's a link the the TA/JA Forum:
Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[norest4thewicked]

new here!

do you guys know where I can find trial evidence info?

like the email where TA calls JA a sociopath?

During the Casey Anthony trial there was a place you could see all the interviews of the people questioned, phone records, etc.

Thought I saw it on here.

Can anyone help?

Welcome to WS!

At the beginning of every thread here there is are several posts of links. We are on thread #79 here. Check on page 1. I don't know that it is there, but that's the only place where I can think of to find it.

 

[Zuri]

Is there a way to link the documentary you mentioned? I cannot find it in past posts & am very interested to see it. Sorry & thanks ahead of time!!

I am so sorry I don't know how to link. It was in the previous thread towards the end with a little girl on the media link. It was really good and very heartbreaking but hopeful.

 

[katiedid2]

omg i could not place what it looked like but thats it :floorlaugh:

i know not eveyones is the same but ive never seen one like that :what:

To be honest with you! It looked like something that could open wide and swallow you up! Skerry looking thingie:floorlaugh:

 

[Hopeful One]

IMO, I believe that TA was completely finished with her. It doesn't make sense to me that he would finally be rid of her since, what was it?, March or April, and then jump back into the sack with her at that point.

I believe she forced him into the photos somehow. Did she want them as a memento?? Then freaked after the actual killing and decided to delete them?

Him consenting to have sex with her at that point is hard enough for me to believe, but I can't see him consenting to nude photos at that point...just doesn't make sense to me.

But they had phone sex 5/10 so he was still into her then, at least for the sex.

 

[Pink Panther]

I disagree. There is an internal timer in that camera that cannot be manipulated. If the state says those pictures were taken 6/4, I believe them. That wasn't even contested by Nurmi.

What if she uploaded a photograph onto the memory card? What timestamp would that have?

 

[norest4thewicked]

I think she took the pic of herself on the timer on June 4. Travis did NOT take any pic of her. In fact, every pic we have EVER seen was taken by her. I recall some people said she was supposed to be taking a pic of Travis and she would set it on timer and jump in the pic...ruining many nice pics of Travis.

I also think Travis didn't want her touching his brand new camera. He wanted to save it for his trip. This probably set her rage meter off its feet.

Yes, my thoughts exactly! Great to see you again, Whisperer!

 

[katiedid2]

They seemed to 'miss' what was in the binders of those two magazines she tried to send out with messages to MM!

But really now. They have this stuff. She knows they have it. Is she really going to risk not explaining with more whoppers so they don't get surprised? Or are they just playing dumb because there are NO explanations. They seem to ignore a lot because of this. It's not ineffective council it's ineffective CLIENT!:waitasec:

Well it's like this she doesn't know when to shaddup! She has an answer for everything!
Every time she opens her mouth she hangs herself

 

[norest4thewicked]

I think if he had sex with her it was to con her into thinking everything was going to be ok. As I recall he had concerns there was an axe murderer deep inside.

It was she that needed sex to calm herself, not him

Naaaa...the fact that he refused sex to her on that day fueled her rage and helped her with her slaughter.

 

[snowcat]

I always wondered what was wrong with his neck. Are those ligature marks or did she already cut him somehow? Neck has looked strange in that pic from day one.

Me too. Several have commented on the red line around Travis' neck in that photo at dif times so we're not alone. I wonder if she looped something around his neck while his back was turned and it ended up not working or he took it off and she continued to torture him saying God knows what (droning psycho big words) at him while holding gun on him to make him sit where she started the stabbing

 

[norest4thewicked]

But they had phone sex 5/10 so he was still into her then, at least for the sex.

But after the phone sex there was the scathing email/texts he sent to her. He was done with her.

 

[Whisperer]

I wish the jury would ask her details of everything she did between the hours of 2.00pm and 5:30pm.

If you think about it why would Travis want her to photograph him in the shower. What were they doing before he got in the shower? Why not photograph him getting in? Why not take pics of him in his undies?

Where was she? It would appear she left about 2:00pm angry at him and came back. He may have foolishly left the doors unlocked again. She had to wait till the roommates were gone and watched them leave.

She waited till he was naked and unable to defend himself.

 

[CJae]

Sorry if this was already discussed, I have been out of the loop for a few days. Gotta pay the bills you know! :floorlaugh:

Why did JA fill the gas cans in Utah?

She already established an alibi there with Ryan and the police officer. Also she bought gas with a card and left a paper trail, so there was no need to fill up gas cans at that point. Am I missing something? And before you say she had gas to beurn evidence, remember she was pulled over (intentionally) by Law Enforcement in Utah, so she must hyave ditched the evidence by then.

Aaaaaand.. hehe Guns and knives don't burn...

Thoughts?

My understanding is it goes to prove that she did in fact have 3 gas cans when fueling up in Pasadena. That she did not return one right after buying it at Wal Mart as they have no record of it. This can be proven even when you pay cash and get cash back. So, her story is all a crock. She lied straight to the jurors faces. Even after saying she's no longer needing to lie and doesn't do it as a habitual thing.

But she got BUSTED BIG TIME.

I think there might even be a witness who saw her with the 3 cans.

Why would you do that when ther are gas stations everywhere along those roads??

 

[StephanieHartPI]

I want Mr Martinez to expand on this, to have her text to him. I really want to know what she did, she upset him so badly.

FROM Travis TO JA
April 2008
(illegible) you have that information. its 15 minutes it would take to gt the info. But you won't take 15 minutes. Why because it is an Fing lie. So either text me you that you are ready to tell the truth or give me your imaginary friend with the worst BS story you have ever told or leave me alone. Its a lie like no other. It is freaking foolish. There is no way out of it, you have screwed up your story so bad you can't mend it. You are caught. When will you realize that. I do not know. You have til tomorrow. to have me this persons information before I tell all of the hughes' leslie udy, the freemans, your parents and anyone else that matters about all the crazy things you have done. So either fess up or feel the wrath. No matter how bad the truth is I promise you the punishment will be better than the lie. This is worse than your magical email that a mysterious man you've never seen before wrote for you. You insult me by thinking ill believe such crap. nothing else from you til the truth. I already know your lying so why continue. After tomorrow, its gonna get real bad for you. Time to spit it out.

These 3 are all part of one long text, no replies from JA in between:
05/26/08 at 07:59:15am

I sent you a response to your dire conversation, that I hope you read because you need to read it. Maybe it will spark human emotion in you, something that only seems to exist when it comes to your own problems. But everyone else is just a part of your sick agenda. By the way, your pic comment to Danny Jones makes you look like a pure *advertiser censored*, even more to the people who know you. You should be embarrassed by it. If he knew what I knew about you he'd spit in ur face. So would everyone else. I have never never in my life been hurt so bad by someone. But why do I even say it because you don't care. It doesn't serve your evilness.

05/26/08 at 08:35:02am

You couldn't get off your lazy butt to to read it could you. That's the sociopath (I) know so well. it freakin figures

05/26/08 at 09:11:11am

I don't want your apology I want you to understand what I think of you. I want you to understand how evil I think you are. You are the worst thing that ever happened to me.

 

[pinkie60]

Does her complete soullessness come through in person as she without the slightest of feeling, emotion, or anything whatsoever answers questions regarding extremely traumatic, disturbing, and even earth shattering moments that are part of the horrific crimes she inflicted on the victim??

Because just watching from thousands of miles away, in my living room I cannot even accurately describe what is the complete and total absence that I see in watching and hearing her testify.. I mean its truly amazing to me that I am watching another human being that is so devoid of even the most basic characteristics of bearing a soul.. IMO its almost as tho she is a foreign alien of an origin unknown to us that consists of human skin, organs, and bones like all of us, but the similarities end there of human qualities..it really is truly an amazing sight to actually see its existence and yet at the same time utter, bone chilling terror that overcomes me in the realization of what has occurred due to this indiviual's having used those few human like qualities she does have to manipulate and then literally destroy this victim, Travis Alexander..

She has been able to hide in plain sight amongst the masses under the guise as ONE OF US until the time came that her true and real identity emerged and was literally unleashed in horror on Travis Alexander that June 4th afternoon.. while I do very much believe that along her lifetime there have been those who caught glimpses of this real identity at various stages and points, as a result of various situations that allowed or brought forward this true self .. I do however believe that June 4ths reveal was complete and unabated and in my minds eye I honestly believe that even my most disturbing scenarios that I've run thru in my head of how that day truly played out..even the most horrific versions pale in comparison to the actual reality of what that ultimate reveal consisted of and just what it was that Travis was forced to bear witness to as the guise was fully lifted, fully exposing the monster that lay beneath ..

Gone was the facade of the quite esthetically attractive young woman with whom he had shared his most intimate moments of his short life with... Gone was the mask of the young, fresh faced, Southern California gal.. Gone was any sparkle in her eyes that she had learned to mimic and was mistaken for a living, breathing SOUL inside of her.. Gone were all those traits that she had used to lure Travis into the ultimate deathtrap that she was about to reveal.. imo in that moment in time when the cloak was fully disrobed and what "IT" was that now stood before Travis in full disclosure was IMO immediately recognized by Travis as being one of the most purest of evil origins.. IMO I believe Travis became fully aware of what he was facing, and what he was up against in that moment in time..

But IMO it sadly appears as tho she struck simultaneously as she shed the guise therefor leaving Travis mortally wounded at that moment of realization when he for the first time was looking into the eyes of that purest of evil FULLY UNMASKED in all of its wretched, evil glory.. I believe that Travis knew in that moment that this was likely a situation that he would NOT survive with his life.. and I personally cannot even imagine just what terror that would strike in one as they were coming to realize just what was happening and just who it was that was fully in control of deciding whether he survived or not, and knowing after looking into those eyes of evil that the decision had already long since been made..that decision being to extinguish his light and his life from this earth.. its obviously a moment that the vast majority of us will never know or have to experience and therefor never have to fully comprehend what depths of evil that we are talking about here WRT Jodi Arias.

I do fully believe that evil does reside within that hollow, humanoid shell that is Jodi Arias.. I honestly am conflicted on what and how I believe that this type of evil comes to exist inside of a human being as I come to learn more and more when speaking of this particular breed of being that is Jodi Arias, that with many that soullessness and dark heart appear to have been present from an extremely young age, and early stage of life...so, it is that, that keeps me from understanding from where and when it originates and/or comes to reside and therefor become very much a very real part of the person..

What I am very much certain is that Jodi Arias is NOT like you and I and that any similarities begin and end with the outer aesthetics, inner structure and biological make up of human organs..beyond that IMO we delve into something that is so foreign and alien, and most importantly scarily void of anything except that of darkness through and through.. and its my opinion that fortunately for us as a society she for whatever cause/reason is completely incapable and unable to successfully mask and cover who and what she really is.. is that because once that full and total reveal occurred showing her true identity and in those very, very few seconds and minutes that were to immediately follow she unleashed the purest of evil with the ultimate of brutality and utter abandonment of all and any restraint in her inflicting such a horrific and complete evisceration of a full grown, healthy, young adult male as she slaughtered him..as she singlehandedly destroyed his physical being in a manner that mere words can never even begin to describe, while ensuring to permanently extinguish what was the bright, literal room filling with light and life as he walked into a room, larger than life personality that was Travis Alexander.. Complete and total destruction in just literally a matter of a few hundred seconds of time from start to finish..<--is it this full reveal and what it was that transpired in those minutes that were to follow...is it this as to why IMO she remains "outted"..unable to retreat back inside under the guise or mask of you and I..unable to cover and conceal that which she prior had been able to hide???.. I don't know, maybe..whatever it is that is the reason or cause that disallows her to remask that which she unleashed is what IMO allows us as society to remain safe atleast from her being once again amongst us..

IMO the evil that does still remain even to the naked eye of you and I where once was concealed behind the mask is what will not only take her down the path of being found GUILTY by a jury of her peers for the slaughtering of Travis' physical body AND the extinguishing from this earth what was the light of his soul..it will also be what takes her down the ultimate path of death as payment here on earth for the evil she unleashed on him as well.. IMO sadly it took Travis' life being taken as that which ultimately would keep Jodi Arias from being able to hurt, harm, and kill anyone else in this life..

All jmo and my apologies for the long, droning post I know to many will likely seem over dramatic, but IMO what and who Jodi Arias is, is truly just that damn dark, and that damn all encompassing of the purest of evil..jmo, tho.

very well put. i get the feeling she has a sense of satisfaction that she ended his life

 

[katydid23]

new here!

do you guys know where I can find trial evidence info?

like the email where TA calls JA a sociopath?

During the Casey Anthony trial there was a place you could see all the interviews of the people questioned, phone records, etc.

Thought I saw it on here.

Can anyone help?

:welcome: to WS.

Click on this link and it will take you to a treasure trove of info.

*graphic and adult content* Jodi Arias Trial media/ timeline thread **no discussion** - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Whisperer]

The jury needs to ask her what made her drop the camera....

I noticed it went to the right of her when she is left handed. Is then when she pulled the knife out, using her left hand.

 

[gngr~snap]

Costco?

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No way Costco! She won't say where she really bought it because she probably bought "other stuff" that would incriminate her. IMO
Try Sam's or WalMart... I don't know the membership stores out west.. BJ's maybe ?

Could be Costco... Maybe that was the truth.
Does PPL or did they have a group membership to a discount place ?

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[Hopeful One]

Naaaa...the fact that he refused sex to her on that day fueled her rage and helped her with her slaughter.

I don't think he refused sex at all!

Differing opinions I guess.

 

[katiedid2]

I need to clarify. This girl scares me more than anyone ever has in my life. No joke. What I meant was that as a little girl, she broke. And now here she is, devoid of a conscience. She is dangerous and scares the bejeesus outta me. I have made jokes about wanting her microchipped if she ever gets out because I want to know where she is at all times. I would bet would kill again. And it would also be planned, premeditated. I don't mean she broke and committed a crime of passion. I think she broke years ago and is a soulless shell.

Have you seen her stare down travis family in court? Skerry!