Interview with Maya D at Lowell...

[magic-cat]

What does THIS have to do with the current discussion ? Or my post? :waitasec: I am talking about Maya in a thread about Maya. I would come to the threads pertaining to Casey if I wanted to speak about her truthfulness or lack thereof. JMO

I dont mean to sound rude or snarky or whatever term one may use and I truly hope it does not come across as such...but really...

Everything. It has been clearly stated that none of what she says can be PROVEN...and I am simply making the comparison that it seems like she has THAT in common with EVERYTHING KC Anthony has ever said throughout this entire case. She cannot PROVE there even WAS a nanny and yet she insists on blaming her, oh wait, no, now her NEW IMPROVED story is the nanny ISN'T responsible. She can't prove any of her nanny stories no matter how many times she changes that story, and yet, the defense expects reasonable and rational people to believe she exists?

Maya has only her word in this against whom again? :waitasec: Oh yeah, right, KC Anthony, who has NOTHING but lies behind her. Between KC and Charles Manson I would take HIS word before I would HERS, and so it was no great stretch for me to put some belief into Maya's accusations against someone who is a known liar and propagator of false and ever evolving tales... :blushing:

 

[magic-cat]

What does THIS have to do with the current discussion ? Or my post? :waitasec: I am talking about Maya in a thread about Maya. I would come to the threads pertaining to Casey if I wanted to speak about her truthfulness or lack thereof. JMO

I dont mean to sound rude or snarky or whatever term one may use and I truly hope it does not come across as such...but really...

And what was it again that this interview with Maya was about? :waitasec: Oh, oh yes, it was ALL about KC Anthony. I do not think it is an off topic subject when Maya is accused of being untruthful (when she is discussing KC ) to talk about the truthfulness of KC...:waitasec: I could be wrong. God in heaven knows I have been before. And the fact is the statement was made that she had no proof and I was simply equating THAT statement with someone else who has NO proof of ANYTHING that she claims, and yet, she goes right on claiming it. Having PROOF is not a prerequisite for what one is stating to BE the truth. One can have NO proof and STILL be telling the truth, wouldn't you agree? :blushing:

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Casey Anthony Jail Confidant Maya Dirkovik’s Body Language Says She Is Truthful As She Reveals Information About Casey


http://drlillianglassbodylanguagebl...thful-as-she-reveals-information-about-casey/

 

[magic-cat]

Casey Anthony Jail Confidant Maya Dirkovik’s Body Language Says She Is Truthful As She Reveals Information About Casey


http://drlillianglassbodylanguagebl...thful-as-she-reveals-information-about-casey/

Well well...we have been on waiting on that one...thanks for posting it.

 

[logicalgirl]

Casey Anthony Jail Confidant Maya Dirkovik’s Body Language Says She Is Truthful As She Reveals Information About Casey


http://drlillianglassbodylanguagebl...thful-as-she-reveals-information-about-casey/

Thank you! While I am no expert, I have had training listening to (watching) body language. Appreciate the post of LG's article.

 

[LinasK]

I think Maya is full of bull. MOO. She is working her own agenda to lay the bricks for leniency during sentencing. I find nothing in her story to be credible.

She's already been sentenced, nothing to gain..

I realize that. But it will look good to future parole boards if she is instrumental in breaking this case(y). I'm sorry; it's just a gut feeling, and I don't trust her. I think Robin has a lot more credibility than Maya.

See, I think the exact opposite. Robyn tried to sell her letters. I wondered about Maya's credibility in the first part, but not because of her pronunciation of the word Chloroform. (The pronunciation doesn't bother me given that she's a poorly educated girl, for whom English is a 2nd language, and was a gang member. She still has a little bit of a gang accent). But in part two, Maya expresses remorse for her victim and her victim's family. Maya thinks 30 years is a good deal compared to not getting the Death Penalty for her crime! Breaking this case, isn't gonna get her anything with her parole board!

 

[Harmony 2]

I can not for the life of me buy into MDs story. Nor do I believe RA. But if I had to choose I would think RA would be the one whom Casey MAY confide in. When did Maya and Casey EVER speak and/or exchange letters. Never that we have proof of. I do believe that Maya and Robyn have a friendship, evidenced by the calls between RA and her Father(who visited Maya in jail). This leads me to believe that Maya is helping Robyn, and hoping to help herself further down the road.

From what I have read thus far, she did not mention a rag or anything that would indicate chloroform use until the Belich interview. If anything I think these stories cause problems for the State, as I dont think any jury will believe that Casey was leaving a party every 15-20 minutes to readminister chloroform to Caylee. In my opinion Maya should have stuck to the "knocked her out" theory, and not embellished to include the chloroform. This also causes problems due to the fact that there was no evidence of long term chlorofom use in the tox screens. JMO of course

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Chloroform was not tested for in the toxicology exams. (refer to the single post linked for results)

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If I were a juror on this case I would not give credence to anyone making claims while incarcerated. JMHO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Wasn't that her original incarceration pic? Still a little bit gangsta? Also she is at the age when girls start losing their baby fat round faces and start showing some cheek bones.

I didn't hear an accent, but it is likely she continued to speak to her family at home in her mother tongue. I did notice she has a slightly different of moving her mouth around to say some words and to me it was pretty obvious English is not her first language.

I thought about that too regarding a face thinning out as one ages but I've never noticed the total shape of a face/nose change altogether. Plus Maya refers to her tatoo ("daddy") as if she's had it all along ever since she committed her crimes so where is it? It shows up when her hair is behind her shoulder because it circles towards the front of her neck. I remain very curious about these differences.

Too bad KB didn't ask Maya to say something in her mother tongue which would solve any confusion. It's not obvious to me whatsoever that English is NOT her first language. Maybe, maybe not. :waitasec:

 

[TorisMom003]

I watched both parts of the interview and I believe her. I may be wrong to do so but I see in her a young woman who is truly sorry for her past and one that is trying to help the Anthony's find some peace about what happened to Caylee.

As far as the tattoo goes in the photo on Maya's prison Id, I saw at least a shadow on that side of her neck in the photo. The photo was not a great photo so I do not think that the tattoo would be obvious, but I do believe that it is there. The photo looks like the same young woman to me and it was taken 3 years ago. People do look different over the years. She went from being a teenager to being a young woman. Bodies change, we gain weight (or lose it), and in three years time we can look alot different than we did before.

I wish that Maya had been able to convince Casey to come clean. Instead we have Casey playing games, wasting the courts time and wasting the citizens of Floridas money.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

And didn't Maya also say the 911 call was her final attempt to get in touch with the LE after all other attempts called? Maya also said they are in and out of their cells quite often for various things throughout the day - she could simply have been escorted by or sitting in the day room during her free time. There are lots of options to consider. I will go back and listen to both tapes again and specifically watch for that information.

Yes Maya said she called one number and got the hours of operation and then another but finally called 911 and they patched her through to Homocide. She also said she called from "here" which must mean the Lowell facility. When did she transfer there?

I'm asking questions as they come to me, as I hope a juror would. The questions need answers. The more I witness KC's removed personality first hand, the more I'd believe she could have the capability of killing Caylee outright. That said, I still need to know she did with no reasonable doubt for a death penalty sentence. For all I know, GA f'd up and something bad happened to Caylee while she was under his care. The A's all seem sociopathic to me now. I'm too confused so I need to ask the questions but have no ulterior motive other than a need to understand the truth. It doesn't matter to me your opinion or my opinion ~ I'm trying hard to get to the truth. Don't get me wrong, I like hearing everyone's opinions but our opinions will not solve the case.

That said, the people who have inserted themselves into the case don't seem credible to me. They may be but so far imo, they all may have hidden motives and I'm not going to believe them just because they say it. Maya killed someone's child too - just say'n.

 

[nort]

I agree with the not giving credence to anyone making claims while incarcerated. I admire all that MD has accomplished while in prison and that she found a way to deal with the murder she committed. The WS's that are in agreement that Casey should face the death penalty, I dont believe think that one can be rehabilitated UNLESS they would feel different if Casey admitted to her crime. So I guess my question is would you offer Casey the same trust and compassion and believe she was a changed person if she said she did it and she was sorry? I'm not thinking I could trust her no matter what she did or said at this point. MD was a gang member and we only know about the crime she is doing time for, we dont really know what else she has criminally participated in. So its really tough to decide if shes credible or not. Personally I dont dislike her less because she did not kill a 2 year old I dislike them both equally for taking someones life. IMO

 

[LinasK]

That said, the people who have inserted themselves into the case don't seem credible to me. They may be but so far imo, they all may have hidden motives and I'm not going to believe them just because they say it. Maya killed someone's child too - just say'n.

Yes, she did. The difference is that she has a conscience. She turned herself in within two weeks of her crime and made a full confession- the police hadn't figured out her gang name, and now admits that it was a "mistake" because she was a teenage runaway who fell into the wrong crowd and got involved in drugs and gangs. She claims to have changed and matured and I believe her because she directly expresses remorse for her victim and her victim's family. Maya is no serial killer. I don't think her religion in jail is the crutch it was for Casey. She urged Casey to confess.

 

[LinasK]

I agree with the not giving credence to anyone making claims while incarcerated. I admire all that MD has accomplished while in prison and that she found a way to deal with the murder she committed. The WS's that are in agreement that Casey should face the death penalty, I dont believe think that one can be rehabilitated UNLESS they would feel different if Casey admitted to her crime. So I guess my question is would you offer Casey the same trust and compassion and believe she was a changed person if she said she did it and she was sorry? I'm not thinking I could trust her no matter what she did or said at this point. MD was a gang member and we only know about the crime she is doing time for, we dont really know what else she has criminally participated in. So its really tough to decide if shes credible or not. Personally I dont dislike her less because she did not kill a 2 year old I dislike them both equally for taking someones life. IMO

She admitted that she was arrested for carjacking when she turned herself in for her crime. She's also taken lie detector tests and passed.

 

[LinasK]

Casey Anthony Jail Confidant Maya Dirkovik’s Body Language Says She Is Truthful As She Reveals Information About Casey


http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/04/20/casey-anthony-jail-confidant-maya-dirkovik’s-body-language-says-she-is-truthful-as-she-reveals-information-about-casey/

I formed my own opinions about the interview before I opened this blog, and I came to the exact same conclusions that Lillian Glass did!

 

[nort]

She admitted that she was arrested for carjacking when she turned herself in for her crime. She's also taken lie detector tests and passed.

They would have found that out about the carjacking and again I commend her on the things she has changed or taken care of. The lie detector test was for the confession not in reference to her conversation with Casey. I guess they were making sure she was not covering for another gang member. (must be something among gang members, I'm thinking).

 

[logicalgirl]

Yes Maya said she called one number and got the hours of operation and then another but finally called 911 and they patched her through to Homocide. She also said she called from "here" which must mean the Lowell facility. When did she transfer there?

I'm asking questions as they come to me, as I hope a juror would. The questions need answers. The more I witness KC's removed personality first hand, the more I'd believe she could have the capability of killing Caylee outright. That said, I still need to know she did with no reasonable doubt for a death penalty sentence. For all I know, GA f'd up and something bad happened to Caylee while she was under his care. The A's all seem sociopathic to me now. I'm too confused so I need to ask the questions but have no ulterior motive other than a need to understand the truth. It doesn't matter to me your opinion or my opinion ~ I'm trying hard to get to the truth. Don't get me wrong, I like hearing everyone's opinions but our opinions will not solve the case.

That said, the people who have inserted themselves into the case don't seem credible to me. They may be but so far imo, they all may have hidden motives and I'm not going to believe them just because they say it. Maya killed someone's child too - just say'n.

I see your points woe.be.gone, but I am never arguing any of my opinions for the death penalty. That's not even on my radar. I'm a Canadian and we don't have the death penalty up here. For me it is simply guilty or not guilty. I'd like LWOP if she is found guilty, but will leave the decision as to death up to the jury who will listen to all the evidence, the penalty phase arguments, and decide what to do under Florida and according to their instructions from the judge.

Making a decision for death is just something I don't even think about. That's too much of the cart before the horse for me. Maybe after I hear all the evidence I'll change my mind - but not right now. It is all about guilt or innocence at this point for me. IMO

 

[LinasK]

They would have found that out about the carjacking and again I commend her on the things she has changed or taken care of. The lie detector test was for the confession not in reference to her conversation with Casey. I guess they were making sure she was not covering for another gang member. (must be something among gang members, I'm thinking).

Okay, I typed that wrong. It was when she was jailed for the carjacking that she turned herself in and confessed to the murder...
According to Maya in her interview with the reporter, the police hadn't solved her crime. They thought "Maya" was the victim's friend, and were looking for her gang name, which they hadn't associated with her. She had to prove to the cops that she was who they were looking for!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Yes, she did. The difference is that she has a conscience. She turned herself in within two weeks of her crime and made a full confession- the police hadn't figured out her gang name, and now admits that it was a "mistake" because she was a teenage runaway who fell into the wrong crowd and got involved in drugs and gangs. She claims to have changed and matured and I believe her because she directly expresses remorse for her victim and her victim's family. Maya is no serial killer. I don't think her religion in jail is the crutch it was for Casey. She urged Casey to confess.

Wait, hold the phone. She turned herself in within two weeks of her crime?

Body of HJC found in a retention pond on 18 January 2007.
Maya plead guilty on 26 February 2008.
Maya passed a poly exam 03 September 2008.

What was the poly test for? When was Maya's trial? Did it have to do with her case or what she knew about KC?
If KC, then she must have talked to LE in 2008, not 2009.

I don't know what Maya is or isn't but she choked a girl in cold blood urged on by two other people.
It's fine if she urged KC to confess but it didn't work so why is she telling LE about that? If it had worked, she could be a hero.
Since it didn't work, there must have been something in it for her.
RA says that Maya inserted herself so as to positively affect her own sentence - same thing RA wants to do imo.

I don't think people rehabilitate that fast but miracles do happen I guess.
Also, Maya says she was already in jail for car hijacking when she approached LE about murdering HJC.
Was that within two weeks of her having killed her victim? :waitasec:
Please, let's only state facts or provide a source. I'm getting more confused which is not helping me.

 

[LinasK]

Wait, hold the phone. She turned herself in within two weeks of her crime?

Body of HJC found in a retention pond on 18 January 2007.
Maya plead guilty on 26 February 2008.
Maya passed a poly exam 03 September 2008.

What was the poly test for? Had Maya been tried already? Did it have to do with her case or what she knew about KC? If KC, then she must have talked to LE in 2008, not 2009.

I don't know what Maya is or isn't but she choked a girl in cold blood urged on by two other people. It's fine if she urged KC to confess but it didn't work so why is she telling LE about that? If it had worked, she could be a hero. Since it didn't work, there must have been something in it for her. RA says that Maya is inserting herself so as to positively affect her own sentence - same thing Maya wanted to do imo.

I don't think people rehabilitate that fast but miracles do happen I guess.
Also, Maya says she was already in jail for car hijacking when she approached LE about murdering HJC. Was that within two weeks of her having killed her victim? :waitasec: Please, let's only state facts or provide a source. I'm getting more confused which is not helping anyone.

Okay, I typed that wrong. It was when she was jailed for the carjacking that she turned herself in and confessed to the murder...

My mistake, I typed the order wrong. Maya has nothing to gain by turning Casey in, she didn't try to sell letters like Robyn did, and even Robyn didn't out herself, it was Maya who called the homicide division because it ate at her that Casey wasn't confessing and she came to believe Casey was guilty from Casey's complete lack of remorse. Maya called Thanksgiving weekend because it was a special time for her and it ate at her. Maya has a conscience. This is a tragic young woman who seems to have learned from her terrible mistake. I don't see her as a repeat offender. She's had time away from drugs and gangs to see the difference.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I see your points woe.be.gone, but I am never arguing any of my opinions for the death penalty. That's not even on my radar. I'm a Canadian and we don't have the death penalty up here. For me it is simply guilty or not guilty. I'd like LWOP if she is found guilty, but will leave the decision as to death up to the jury who will listen to all the evidence, the penalty phase arguments, and decide what to do under Florida and according to their instructions from the judge.

Making a decision for death is just something I don't even think about. That's too much of the cart before the horse for me. Maybe after I hear all the evidence I'll change my mind - but not right now. It is all about guilt or innocence at this point for me. IMO

Thanks for this. Also it was explained to me that just because the DP is on the table, doesn't mean she'll get that sentence but still, people talk as if they want her to hang before we even get to the trial and that bothers me. I watched a TV show the other night about a man in IL who was on deathrow for 14 years (I think) for killing and burning a couple. Two men in Paris, Illinois, were framed and sentenced. Luckily for them someone cared enough to go after their cases and they've been cleared but wth?

Sorry for O/T but this disturbs me to no end. Also, Maya states that she is "happy with thirty years" because she could have gotten the DP. When was her trial?