Jayelles
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So why did you say:-Rainsong said:I did not miss the quote from Lou Smit and addressed it in an earlier post.
Rainsong
????the only proof we have it is pineapple is Steve Thomas' word
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So why did you say:-Rainsong said:I did not miss the quote from Lou Smit and addressed it in an earlier post.
Rainsong
????the only proof we have it is pineapple is Steve Thomas' word
BlueCrab said:Rainsong,
This info had been provided to you several times in the past, but you and others from over yonder continually ignore it and bring up the same question. But here it is again:
The pineapple in the bowl found on the breakfast room table on December 26, 1996 was frozen as evidence, as was the pineapple from JonBenet's small intestine. In February of 1998 two college biology professors were selected to analyze the pineapple. The two experts concluded that both samples were fresh pineapple that included some of the outer rind of the fruit and there were no distinctive differences between the pineapple from the bowl and the pineapple from JonBenet's small intestines.
We know why you ignore much of the pineapple evidence. The pineapple proves there was no intruder. JonBenet would have never gone downstairs willingly with an intruder, after being stungunned, and together snacked on pineapple while the intruder sipped on tea at the breakfast room table.
BlueCrab
Jayelles said:So why did you say:-
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No. As I said in post #152, I think she ate it before going to the Whites. Given the small amount found I think she snarfed a piece just before leaving. I agree with Jayelles that candy and sweets are what kids would most likely head for while at a party. I don't know where you got the idea they didn't eat on Christmas. We know they had pancakes for breakfast. After that whatever they ate I assume they got on their own. I stopped making breakfast and lunch for my kids when they got old enough to do it for themselves.Moab said:Thanks for the info, so are you thinking the pineapple was from the 24th? What parents wouldn't feed their child on Christmas? I'm amazed!
Is it a very hard question to answer... or a compromising one?Jayelles said:It's funny how you still haven't answered the simple questions as to whether you apply the same exacting standards of scientific proof to the "stungun marks".
You've reponded several times with non answers/sidesteps when a simple yes or no would suffice.
It's not a hard question.
Jayelles said:Is it a very hard question to answer... or a compromising one?
Yes... or no.
Originally posted by Jayelles
Originally Posted by Rainsong
I did not miss the quote from Lou Smit and addressed it in an earlier post.
Rainsong
So why did you say:-
Quote:
the only proof we have it is pineapple is Steve Thomas' word
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You haven't asnwered the questiobn.Rainsong said:I've answered this question previously. Some may not like my answer...
Rainsong
I'd like confirmation, not from LE but from some scientific entity.
And do you have the same high standards of scientific proof about the use of a stungun?
I do believe experts in stun gun marks have already spoken on same.
The Boulder police were skeptical of Smit's stun-gun theory, and showed some of the autopsy pictures to Arapahoe County coroner Dr. Michael Doberson, who had researched stun-gun wounds. Doberson said he didn't think the marks were from a stun gun. But recently, NEWSWEEK asked Doberson to review Smit's stun-gun evidence. Doberson says the police never showed him Smit's pictures comparing the size and orientation of the marks with the electrical contacts on the Air Taser. He now calls Smit's stun-gun theory "compelling."
Again without attribution, The New Yorker article reports that forensic experts have discovered that the distance between two marks found in two places on JonBenet's body are the same distance apart as the two prongs on an Air Taser brand weapon.
But Arapahoe County Coroner Michael Doberson said a Taser is a very different weapon than a stun gun, which is what investigators have been talking about since last spring.
While a stun gun emits a high-voltage shock from two prongs held up against a person's body, a Taser fires two small projectiles connected to electricity-carrying wires, Paladin Arms owner Bob Glass said.
Glass called the Air Taser "a pretty pricey item," selling at his shop for about $300.
Doberson said Boulder detectives visited him April 25 to ask about a 2-year-old Arapahoe County case in which the coroner exhumed the body of Gerald Boggs eight months after burial and found evidence of electrical shock in the man's skin tissue.
"They came over and showed me some pictures from the (Ramsey) autopsy and asked for my opinion, whether they could be stun gun injuries," Doberson recalled. "I told them that they could be; that was a possibility. But there were a lot of things they could do to narrow down the possibilities of what it could be."
Doberson told Boulder investigators to do what The New Yorker reports they eventually did - measure the distance between the wounds and compare that to stun guns.
But with fired projectiles instead of fixed prongs, does the measurement theory hold up for a Taser-type weapon?
"Not unless the distances between the two firing prongs are set so they would always hit the body the same distance apart," Doberson said.
Besides, he added, the only definitive way to tell if electrocution was involved in JonBenet's death is to re-examine her body and look for "very characteristic" changes in skin tissue.
"You really can't tell from a photo," Doberson said.
Jayelles said:You haven't asnwered the questiobn.
let me recap:-
Rainsong said regarding the pineapple:-
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Jayelles asked (note this is a simple question requiring a yes/no answer):-
Rainsong replied:-
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I do not consider this an answer to my simple question. You could just as well have replied "My dog has fleas".
If you do not wish to asnwer the question please just say. I think you do not wish to say "Yes" because that would be tantamount to questioning the "party line". At the same time, if you say "No" then you will be seen to have double standards.
I think that is why you are giving non-answers and doing the little sidesteps.:dance:
Had it last night for dinner...took about 2 hours. You try it tonight, k?Rainsong said:So remote it is nil?
Eat corn tonight. See how long it takes for it to pass through your digestive tract.
Rainsong
Trouble with this is the didn't find candy and sweets in her stomach or digestive system. Post 193 says they didn't eat while opening presents; Post 188 only mentioned Burke eating a "bite" of breakfast; Pages 5-6 of DOI said they made a big "traditional" breakfast and JBR used to like to make faces on her pancakes, but that she was too busy playing to eat that day even after J&P cooked it; Post 207 has JR saying he doubted she could even open the fridge. Don't you think for a child who was obviously NOT self-sufficient her parents should have remembered feeding her SOMETHING that day? Or am I supposed to believe all she did was swipe "a" piece of pineapple from a fridge she couldn't even open on the way to the White's? And if she did have a whole bunch of other stuff to eat, then it kind of dispells the "repressed digestion" theory, doesn't it, because all of that other "stuff" she ate was long gone...just like RS's corn!tipper said:No. As I said in post #152, I think she ate it before going to the Whites. Given the small amount found I think she snarfed a piece just before leaving. I agree with Jayelles that candy and sweets are what kids would most likely head for while at a party. I don't know where you got the idea they didn't eat on Christmas. We know they had pancakes for breakfast. After that whatever they ate I assume they got on their own. I stopped making breakfast and lunch for my kids when they got old enough to do it for themselves.
Moab said:Had it last night for dinner...took about 2 hours. You try it tonight, k?
If she was eating stuff like candy canes they would have been dissolved before they got to her stomachMoab said:Trouble with this is the didn't find candy and sweets in her stomach or digestive system. Post 193 says they didn't eat while opening presents; Post 188 only mentioned Burke eating a "bite" of breakfast; Pages 5-6 of DOI said they made a big "traditional" breakfast and JBR used to like to make faces on her pancakes, but that she was too busy playing to eat that day even after J&P cooked it; Post 207 has JR saying he doubted she could even open the fridge. Don't you think for a child who was obviously NOT self-sufficient her parents should have remembered feeding her SOMETHING that day? Or am I supposed to believe all she did was swipe "a" piece of pineapple from a fridge she couldn't even open on the way to the White's? And if she did have a whole bunch of other stuff to eat, then it kind of dispells the "repressed digestion" theory, doesn't it, because all of that other "stuff" she ate was long gone...just like RS's corn!
tipper said:http://my.webmd.com/hw/irritable_bowel_syndrome/hw200330.asp
There are several methods to measure your bowel transit time. Each method uses a swallowed substance (called a food marker) that is eliminated in your stool without being digested.
The time it takes for food to travel through the digestive tract is known as bowel transit time. Bowel transit time varies considerably, even when repeated on the same person. Generally, the first marker should appear in the stool about 14 to 24 hours after ingestion, and the last should appear within 36 to 48 hours. A bowel transit time that is much longer (72 hours or more) indicates slowed bowel function. Talk to your health professional if you do a bowel transit test at home and get abnormal results.
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Bowel transit times are affected by certain medications and medical conditions.
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