Is TH Responsible in any way for the Disappearance of Kyron? **NO DISCUSSION**

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Is TH Responsible for the Disappearance of Kyron?

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    Votes: 321 75.5%
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    Votes: 18 4.2%
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Just joining this thread....for today. I've read through a lot of this history and...random question. Is Canada better at treating kidney disease than the US?

It could have been cheaper, could have been a transplant (although she doesn't have that appearance), it could have been a clinical trial / experimental treatment, it could have been a regimen not approved as yet in the states. We have no idea why she chose to go there. I am not even certain that "kidney failure" is what was wrong with her. As far as I know, we don't have any information about that from Desiree herself.
 
Just joining this thread....for today. I've read through a lot of this history and...random question. Is Canada better at treating kidney disease than the US?

probably not, I'm sure it has more to do with wait times than better expertise. IF it was a transplant that may have been why as well. canadians go to the states often for treatment if the wait times are long here i'm sure it must work vice versa. Also if it was private care (we have national healthcare services) it would have been more cost effective due to the dollar fluctuation back then.

I have no stats on this, JMO
 
probably not, I'm sure it has more to do with wait times than better expertise. IF it was a transplant that may have been why as well. canadians go to the states often for treatment if the wait times are long here i'm sure it must work vice versa. Also if it was private care (we have national healthcare services) it would have been more cost effective due to the dollar fluctuation back then.

I have no stats on this, JMO

so since she wasn't a resident of Canada would she have to pay out of pocket. I'm not being condescending but.....never mind I don't know the severity of her kidney problems. I would've just assumed she would stay within the United States. I don't understand going to Canada for the treatment. OT....random thoughts.
 
I have never heard of someone giving up custody because of kidney issues. That just seems pretty damn harsh.
 
OMG LOL

I thought I was weird for doing this. If I've had a particularly wicked night at work, I'll cruise around my favorite neighborhoods, looking at the gardens or landscaping or whatever for up to an hour or more, just decompressing, before I head on home.

I'm also guilty of cruising. When I worked for Intel, was stressed to the max, and hated my life, I went for long rambling drives on the country roads West and North of Portland almost every weekend. It was the only way I could de-stress enough to get myself back to work come Monday morning. On one drive I ended up on the coast . . . without any real sense of how I had gotten there.

I suspect that Terri may well have been driving around trying to calm herself - not baby K.
 
so since she wasn't a resident of Canada would she have to pay out of pocket. I'm not being condescending but.....never mind I don't know the severity of her kidney problems. I would've just assumed she would stay within the United States. I don't understand going to Canada for the treatment. OT....random thoughts.

There is really no way of knowing unless Desiree answers to this herself. But (and no offense to you at all) Canada isn't a third-world country, they have cutting-edge medical care and considering the proximity, I don't find it all that odd she would go there for treatment.
 
There is really no way of knowing unless Desiree answers to this herself. But (and no offense to you at all) Canada isn't a third-world country, they have cutting-edge medical care and considering the proximity, I don't find it all that odd she would go there for treatment.

I know they are not a third world country. They have universal health care. You have to have a card to get treatment. Just saying. It would be like you crossing state lines for your health care. Another state wouldn't accept your insurence.
 
Well, we are all different in how we handle stress.

And, there are human beings who do not FEEL stress. Sad, but true. Along with the lack of being stressed, comes the lack of what could cause stress: A conscience, and the traits associated with people who are in possession of one:

Guilt, worry, remorse, compassion, EMPATHY (the ability to put oneself in another's place and actually FEEL what they are feeling), to name some of them.

She actually COULD have been nervous, in her own way, and being on the computer was a way to alleviate that nervousness, along with creating all kinds of alibis:

*email to Kyron's teacher

*emails to Kyron's mother, Desiree (Terri's changing the "flavor" of them is a huge give-away and a peek inside Terri's psyche that day, to my way of seeing).

*Posting photos from that morning's science fair. Whatever else she did on facebook and the internet, before following Kaine down to the bus to find that Kyron was not on it.

*doing what Kaine was (possibly and probably) used to seeing her doing this time of day.

I definitely believe that Terri harmed Kyron. I believe he died that morning for whatever selfish and unbalanced reason Terri had. Due to the Doctor appointment diversion/mix-up, which I believe was definitely planned by Terri, in order to have hours of time when no one was concerned about Kyron's whereabouts, this was premeditated. Asking Kaine for the truck that morning fits with her premeditation.

All the things she did, including what she has claimed to have been doing (such as driving a sick baby around aimlessly instead of taking her to the doctor or home, along with then taking same sick baby to the gym) that day point to her guilt, in my opinion. Her behavior since points to her guilt. These things, and much more, support the strong belief I have that this woman is in a small league of her own.

Note: I get what many here are saying, that if this was so well planned (premeditated), if Terri was cunning enough to do this, then why all the mistakes? All I can say to that is: No one said that this woman is intelligent. She could just be evil, or whatever word we choose to describe the indescribably horrible acts that human beings perpetrate upon one another. I think her ego and her self-interest, along with the fact that it appears she has gotten away with a deceptive lifestyle for a very long time, caused her to believe she could do this horrible thing. Not only that, it looks like she was also going to try and pin it on the school. She fails to show ANY emotion, any of what we would expect from an innocent step-parent and wife.

To answer my own question above, I have seen nothing that points to her being innocent of Kyron's "disappearance." Nada, zip, and zero.

THESE ARE MY OPINIONS.

Great post. Well thought out.
Terri planned what she thought would work. She was pretty confident with her pland. There are not perfect crimes or criminals. It's long been my belief that people committe crimes because they are absolutely sure they will not be caught. If there was just a fraction of an ounce that she thought she might be caught, she would not have done it this way. JMO of course.
 
There is really no way of knowing unless Desiree answers to this herself. But (and no offense to you at all) Canada isn't a third-world country, they have cutting-edge medical care and considering the proximity, I don't find it all that odd she would go there for treatment.

I was just thinking, Im from Canada, I have no idea what medical costs with no insurance, but maybe she didn't have any insurance in the States, and treatment was cheaper in Canada with no insurance ? I really haven't a clue. I know lots of people will choose to go to the States for treatment because of waiting time here.
 
There is really no way of knowing unless Desiree answers to this herself. But (and no offense to you at all) Canada isn't a third-world country, they have cutting-edge medical care and considering the proximity, I don't find it all that odd she would go there for treatment.

Is there a Johns Hopkins there? There a lot of hospitals that are presitigous in our area...Why go to Canada. Again, just a random thought.
 
I have a problem with the morning of the science fair. If it was posted in the front of the school that there was a I.B. Inquiry Expo. from 8 to 10. Why would Kyron have to be back at class at 8:45, the expo lasted until 10:00. Doesn't that mean that all parents and guests would be there until 10:00, and the students didn't have to be there in their class until 10:00. What was Kyron supposed to be doing from 8:45 until 10:00 after Terry said she left him in front of his room?
 
OMG LOL

I thought I was weird for doing this. If I've had a particularly wicked night at work, I'll cruise around my favorite neighborhoods, looking at the gardens or landscaping or whatever for up to an hour or more, just decompressing, before I head on home.

I'm also guilty of cruising. When I worked for Intel, was stressed to the max, and hated my life, I went for long rambling drives on the country roads West and North of Portland almost every weekend. It was the only way I could de-stress enough to get myself back to work come Monday morning. On one drive I ended up on the coast . . . without any real sense of how I had gotten there.

Terri may well have been driving around trying to calm herself - not baby K.
 
I know they are not a third world country. They have universal health care. You have to have a card to get treatment. Just saying. It would be like you crossing state lines for your health care. Another state wouldn't accept your insurence.

I've had my insurance accepted in other states... but anyway, I don't know why she'd go to Canada. I listed some theories above, but who knows? Could be her primary doc recommended a specialist in Canada he felt would be right for her case.

sl OT

I don't know what the rules are in Canada for obtaining medical care if you're not a resident, but when my daughter was living for 6 months in England on a tourist visa, she was entitled to all care free of charge. As it turned out, her youngest was injured and the care he received was beyond excellent, to include visiting nurses for a couple of months afterward. So I take what I hear about their system with a huge grain of salt. But my point is, she told me there is some sort of agreement (can't remember the details) between the two countries where medical care for each others' citizens (at least when on a tourist visa) are provided. Something like that... lol
 
Is there a Johns Hopkins there? There a lot of hospitals that are presitigous in our area...Why go to Canada. Again, just a random thought.

Johns Hopkins is in Baltimore. I don't understand your question?
 
THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR THE MEEK!

If you get upset about other opinions that differ from your own, then please exit quietly. :blushing:

This is for the debate of TH's involvement. There is a lot of spattering of this topic through the threads and it's getting distracting.

Remember, keep your posts from addressing other posters directly when you have an opposing view.

Bumping up
 
Johns Hopkins is in Baltimore. I don't understand your question?

Baltimore..US. I was just making a point. Why go all the way to Canada for a procedure. I work with insurance. Just wondering why she chose to go there for treatment through an area that accepts a card for treatment...they have universal healthcare....Kidney disease can be handeled in this country.


Am i wrong for thinking DY went to Canada for treatment? Maybe I'm wrong about what I read.
 
Baltimore..US. I was just making a point. Why go all the way to Canada for a procedure. I work with insurance. Just wondering why she chose to go there for treatment through an area that accepts a card for treatment...they have universal healthcare....Kidney disease can be handeled in this country.


Am i wrong for thinking DY went to Canada for treatment? Maybe I'm wrong about what I read.

That's what was reported in the media. I posted my best guesses, otherwise I haven't a clue. I'll ask my own nephrologist when I see him in November; he likes to gossip lol.

Do you think this might have something to do with why Terri would harm Kyron? Or maybe how another person would have done so? I just wonder if you have a theory about how this ties in.
 
That's what was reported in the media. I posted my best guesses, otherwise I haven't a clue. I'll ask my own nephrologist when I see him in November; he likes to gossip lol.

Do you think this might have something to do with why Terri would harm Kyron? Or maybe how another person would have done so? I just wonder if you have a theory about how this ties in.

No, I just wanted to understand more about that fact.
 
That's what was reported in the media. I posted my best guesses, otherwise I haven't a clue. I'll ask my own nephrologist when I see him in November; he likes to gossip lol.

Do you think this might have something to do with why Terri would harm Kyron? Or maybe how another person would have done so? I just wonder if you have a theory about how this ties in.

I'm sorry you have to see a nephrologist.
 
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